Euph Mouthpiece for Bass Trombone?

[trombinstharry]

Thoughts on getting a large euphonium mouthpiece to use on a bass bone? Recommendations?

[Kbiggs]

It really depends on the mouthpiece and the player. In general, euph mpcs are on the small side. Some can work, others just won’t give a good bass trombone sound.

Some mpc makers (like Doug Elliott) make them in rims, cups and shanks/backbores so you can use the same rim on different cups, or the same size and shape on a different cup. It helps with transitions from horn to horn.

[hyperbolica]

I have a Doug Elliott EUPH series 108 rim that I sometimes use with a J cup for bass bone. It's not great for really low stuff, but it sounds good for parts down to low Eb or so. I actually prefer my VB 1.25g for most bass playing, and a Schilke 60 for pedal G and down. I'm not a full time bass player.

[sirisobhakya]

I sometimes use 3G when I want to cheat for high notes. I know that it is not quite a euphonium mouthpiece, and some makers do list it as a “beginner” or “small” bass trombone mouthpiece, but I have seen some euphonium mouthpieces having similar inner rim diameter, like Schilke 52E2 or Yamaha 53D. For me it works, albeit with a bright and sometimes piercing tone, until around low Eb or so.

If you are doubling, or new to bass, or are sure your music would not go lower than low F (which I highly doubt) a euphonium mouthpiece might work for you. But if you are really into bass, a real bass mouthpiece (at least 2G, or larger) is likely to be better in the long run.

[BGuttman]

I've had better success going the other way. Bass trombone mouthpiece on a Euph. Especially the large bore ones like the Conn 19I. In fact, many of these horns are supplied with a 1 1/2 G mouthpiece.

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[Bach5G]

Why wouldn’t you get a bass trombone mouthpiece for a bass trombone?

[greenbean]

Why wouldn’t you get a bass trombone mouthpiece for a bass trombone?

This ^^

2G or 1.5G would be good to start out...

[hyperbolica]

Why wouldn’t you get a bass trombone mouthpiece for a bass trombone?

Well, for example if someone plays more euph than bass bone, they might want to minimize how much confusion they throw at their chops. Consolidate both instruments on a single mpc.

I got a EUPH DE mpc on the recommendation of Doug because of certain characteristics it shares with tenor and small bass sizes.

There's no harm in asking questions.

[Basbasun]

We are all different. What works for me might not work for you. Many year I made experiments to find a solotion mouthpiece rim to be used for tenor and bass, I even had George Strucel make me a tuba mouthe piece with a basstrombone rim. For me non of this worked good. If I played bass with a big tenor rim I hade to work hard on to get a good bass trombone sound, when I used the same rim on tenor I had to work on make a tenor sound with a to big rim. For me it is less work to use the right mpc and rim for each horn. But if I never tried this I wouldn´t know would I.

[marccromme]

My experience is that none of my larger tenor trombone or euph moutpieces did any satisfactory job on any on my bass trombones.

Usually, intonation and sound concept did suffer on a range from bad to worse.

Please consider finding a mouthpiece which your bass trombone likes, and plays in-tune with, and practice the switch daily, you'll be probably fine after a couple of weeks. That did at least work very fine for me. Your mileage may vary ...

[Burgerbob]

Use the right tool for the job.

[Kbiggs]

Use the right tool for the job.

You beat me to it. (I also remember Sam Burtis “sabutin” when I say it.)

[Bach5G]

Mr. Natural sez...

[Doug Elliott]

But the right tool for one person can be very much the wrong tool for another.

[JohnL]

I'm kinda curious as to what the OP means by "large euphonium mouthpiece"...