Hi, I'm looking for a mouthpiece with a bigger rim than the Bach 5g but with a similar cup (not bigger) I want to prove some brands but I have some questions.
How deep are the Greg Black mouthpieces?
Is the GB 5g cup similar to a bach 5g or a DE G cup? Maybe is the 5gsd closer?
An what about the hammond 12ML? Is the cup bigger than a G cup or similar? What other mouthpiece do you recommend me? Thanks!
Mouthpieces depth
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
You are looking for a larger rim but similar (or smaller) depth than a Bach 5G.
Hammond 12 size is the same size rim as the Bach 5G. You probably would like an 11 ML instead (1 size larger).
Denis Wick 4BL is a larger rim but similar depth to a 5G. Of course the rim may suit you or not.
Warburton 8M (with T backbore) may also fill the bill.
If you want to try the Doug Elliott series you could try the LT 102 rim. A G cup is the same size as a Bach 5G, while you could try an F cup to sort of compensate for the larger rim.
I can't help you on Greg Black.
Hammond 12 size is the same size rim as the Bach 5G. You probably would like an 11 ML instead (1 size larger).
Denis Wick 4BL is a larger rim but similar depth to a 5G. Of course the rim may suit you or not.
Warburton 8M (with T backbore) may also fill the bill.
If you want to try the Doug Elliott series you could try the LT 102 rim. A G cup is the same size as a Bach 5G, while you could try an F cup to sort of compensate for the larger rim.
I can't help you on Greg Black.
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
Yeah, I'd give Doug's new SYM series or his XT series a try. XT102 or XT103 w/ a G cup & G8 shank.
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
Yes, XT or SYM series.
Rims 102, 103, 104, 105 are all bigger than 5G except some 5G's are about 102.
G* cup, G8*
Rims 102, 103, 104, 105 are all bigger than 5G except some 5G's are about 102.
G* cup, G8*
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
GB 5G is deeper than a Bach, GSD would be closer.
12ML is shallower, MXL is closer.
12ML is shallower, MXL is closer.
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
Greg Black NY series (formerly Alessi) would also have some mouthpieces with those specs - the 5, 5.25 - similar cups in the 3 and 1 series.
The Alessi series from Griego are very similar to the Blacks in size.
Pickett 4 series has some cups that fit those general specs.
I'm currently playing an Ultimate Brass 4.1 - it's very much like a 4 rim on a 5G cup. It's working for me.
Jim Scott
The Alessi series from Griego are very similar to the Blacks in size.
Pickett 4 series has some cups that fit those general specs.
I'm currently playing an Ultimate Brass 4.1 - it's very much like a 4 rim on a 5G cup. It's working for me.
Jim Scott
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
Thanks for all the replys. I appreciate.
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Re: Mouthpieces depth
I went from a 5G to a Hammond 12 ML and found the rim size very comparable, a little flatter. The cup is maybe slightly shallower but i didn't give up anything on tone (it's actually a little clearer, but still full). Take a look at the Griego Alessi 7 series, the rim is slightly bigger and cup is similar with some options for deeper or shallower depending on the letter choice.