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victor
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Greg black

Post by victor » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:28 am

Hello everyone.
Which Greg black mouthpiece is most similar to Schilke51 in rim, depth and sound.
Thank you
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Re: Greg black

Post by GabrielRice » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:18 am

Probably a 5G, and to get even closer, a 5G with a custom .277 throat.

But...if you like a Schilke 51, play a Schilke 51.
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Re: Greg black

Post by WilliamLang » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:48 am

If I may!

I have a few mouthpieces around to compare directly. Greg Black 5G and the .277 throat 5G don't feel like the Shilke 51D. They feel a little tighter to my face? I find that the Shires New Vintage 4G or Classic 5MD are much more comparable. Also the Greigo-Alessi 6f and 7f have a similar feel more so that the Greg Black pieces do.

Hope any of this is helpful
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Re: Greg black

Post by tombone21 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:17 am

Big fan of the Schilke 51 here. I played around with 5g-sized pieces for a while and finally settled on an Ultimate Brass 5.1. The rim is a tad wider and not as sharp, but I like that. To me, it feels and sounds like a Schilke 51 brought into modern times. After all the searching, however, I think Gabe is right. Hard to find something that really feels like a true 51.
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Re: Greg black

Post by Doug Elliott » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:01 am

Partly because 51's are not very near the listed specs. They're usually a lot bigger. So if you're comparing to something with the same specs it's probably completely different.
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Re: Greg black

Post by StevenHolloway » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:41 am

I enjoy the sound and character of the Schilke 51, but what an awful rim design. Inner rim is incredibly sharp and cuts into the chops.
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Re: Greg black

Post by victor » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:48 am

Totally agree
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Re: Greg black

Post by RolandJBarber » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:44 am

There are those who can modify the rim of your Schilke 51, which will change the feel on your face while keeping the sonic character of the piece intact...
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