Giardinelli Black Nickle

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walldaja
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Giardinelli Black Nickle

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Anyone have any experience with said bone. Looks like an interesting cosmetic.

Thanks!
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Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

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I would hope there is some kind of lacquer over it. Nickel oxide will rub off and stain everything it comes in contact with (including black tuxedos).

My guess is that it will not be much different from any other finish. But it will look different!
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Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

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BGuttman wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:06 pm I would hope there is some kind of lacquer over it. Nickel oxide will rub off and stain everything it comes in contact with (including black tuxedos).

My guess is that it will not be much different from any other finish. But it will look different!
If that is the case Bruce, do you think there would be any issues with the lacquer adhering. Or, with the nickel oxide bleeding into the lacquer over time?
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Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

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Nickel oxide is a nice rough surface and the lacquer should adhere quite well. It also adheres well to a nickel substrate and thus there is little possibility of lacquer peel. I doubt there would ever be a bleed into the lacquer since the nickel oxide crystals are fairly large relative to any pores in the lacquer.

We used to use oxide coatings as a way to bond circuit boards. The copper surface of a buried layer was oxided and then placed in contact with a layer of uncured material. Under heat and pressure the layer of uncured material bonded to the oxide and formed a solid internal that was stable for years. In fact, you probably have at least one (or more likely several) suck circuit boards in whatever computer you are using.
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Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

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I checked out Woodwind & Brass, where they have one advertised. It mentions the Nickel Oxide Exterior, then mentions Clear Lacquer inside the bell.
Not sure if that means there is no clear on the outside or not.
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Full list below.
Key: Bb
Bore: .500-inch
Leadpipe: Standard
Leadpipe Material: Yellow Brass
Bell: 8-inch
Bell Material: Yellow Brass
Handslide: Standard Weight
Handslide Material: Yellow Brass Outer and Chromed Inner Slide Tubes
Handslide Crook Material: Yellow Brass
F Attachment Wrap: N/A
F Attachment Valve: N/A
Features: Black Nickel Finish; Clear Lacquer Bell Interior
Case: Lightweight Hard Foam Case with Nylon Exterior and Backpack and Shoulder Straps
Mouthpiece: Yes
Mouthpiece Shank: Small
Finish: Black Nickel
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Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

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I believe that it`s a student level model
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