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Edwards CR valves

Post by MTbassbone » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:40 pm

Anybody have experience with Edwards' CR valve option on bass trombone? Does it come in a dependent setup? Cost of either setup (just the valve set)? Are they lighter (weight) than Thayers?
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Neo Bri » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:30 pm

I don't know about Edwards CR valves, but I thought that Kanstul makes CR valves. Am I confused, or you?

Or both of us, perhaps.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by MTbassbone » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:48 am

Probably calling the wrong thing. I am talking about the traditional rotor on the T350-CR-E and B454-CR-E.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Matt K » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:21 am

For Getzen/Edwards, I believe it it either stands for "Custom Reserve" or "Conventional Rotor" based on their marketing material.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by hyperbolica » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:30 am

Kanstul CR = controlled resistance
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:42 am

Confusing & Ridiculous?
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Matt K » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:09 am

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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Bassmike » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:48 am

MTbassbone wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:40 pm
Anybody have experience with Edwards' CR valve option on bass trombone? Does it come in a dependent setup? Cost of either setup (just the valve set)? Are they lighter (weight) than Thayers?
I've played on a set for the past year. The valve set is $2395 for an inline set, they're not making a stock dependent.
I haven't weighed my set to see how they compare to my thayer set, but I don't notice a big difference between the two. They are fantastic valves.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:41 pm

Kind of reaffirms my belief that pretty much everyone is making god valves now.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Matt K » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:58 pm

Neo Bri wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:41 pm
Kind of reaffirms my belief that pretty much everyone is making god valves now.
Submerged in holy water before shipment? :wink:
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by Neo Bri » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:27 pm

Matt K wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:58 pm
Neo Bri wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:41 pm
Kind of reaffirms my belief that pretty much everyone is making god valves now.
Submerged in holy water before shipment? :wink:
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by whitbey » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:14 pm

I have one of these valves. Had it for a few years. It is simply great! I love how it does not feel heavy in the upper register as the horn just vibrates very nice. In the lower range it puts out. I can get a low C pretty good then if I pull the slide a bit I can nail it. The sound is very smooth when the valve is rotated. No pops.
My valve in on a 547 horn and bounces between two 547 horns. I did not like the bigger valves as they made the horn play heavy. This is a regular valve that has been designed as every thing worked over can be. It also has the sound pillar that can also be helpful. It has always been trouble free.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by mrdeacon » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:21 am

MTbassbone wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:40 pm
Anybody have experience with Edwards' CR valve option on bass trombone? Does it come in a dependent setup? Cost of either setup (just the valve set)? Are they lighter (weight) than Thayers?
They do come in dependent. I inquired about this when they first introduced the CR valves and I was on the hunt for a bass.

I can't remember what wrap they come in though... I think they either come in a wrap similar to the Getzen 1062 or in a wrap similar to the Edwards Pagano bass. Like I said I can't remember for sure how they build them.

Just a heads up though... They did tell me the wait on a dependent setup would be realllly long (and this was back about 4 or 5 years ago). They basically have to make to order the dependent setups since there isn't much demand for them. The wait could be anywhere from 3 months to almost a year depending on where you are on the wait list.
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Re: Edwards CR valves

Post by GBP » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:45 pm

I have those valves on a inline bass I use for big band playing. It took me awhile to dial in the right equipment (slide, mouthpiece and those things that screw in), but once I get that squared away, it turned out great. I have great range on the horn and it plays loud without much effort. I was so impressed, I ordered a 502i that will hopefully be here in August.
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