My new Favorite trombone!

Post Reply
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

My new favorite trombone!

.562" gold tube/wide nickel crook slide. 9.5" 2 piece red brass bell, with seamed red brass tuning slide and gooseneck. Features some Olde School touches such as the soldered leadpipe, tuning slide bow guard, traditional wrap, friction fit slide and under-the-thumb lever. I wish now I had left off the slide lock! 🙂 Also spent some time practicing my engraving. Slide pulls to E, and the horn has very solid low C (on F side) and B natural (on E side)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by hornbuilder on Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

Additional photos.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Posaunus
Posts: 3483
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:54 pm
Location: California

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Posaunus »

Matthew,
She's beautiful.
Will you keep her or sell?
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

I made this for myself. But if someone just "had" to have this horn, I'm sure we could come to an agreement! 🙂
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
User avatar
SwissTbone
Posts: 1003
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:40 pm
Contact:

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by SwissTbone »

Holy moly!

Modern 60h?

Can I geek out a bit?
Did you consider TIS? Why? Why not?
Tuning slide guard only for looks or is there a difference in sound/playing?
ƒƒ---------------------------------------------------ƒƒ
Like trombones? Head over to https://swisstbone.com/ to see some great vintage and custom horns!
User avatar
Neo Bri
Posts: 1313
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:30 am
Location: Netherwhere
Contact:

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Neo Bri »

Pretty amazing...I'm jealous.
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

SwissTbone.

We have made TIS versions of this. I just wanted TIB. No specific reason.

The bow guard does tend to induce a little focus, compared to a bow without the guard.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Kbiggs
Posts: 1167
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:46 am
Location: Vancouver WA

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Kbiggs »

A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
Keats
Kenneth Biggs
I have known a great many troubles, but most of them have never happened.
—Mark Twain (attributed)
droffilcal
Posts: 76
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:41 am

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by droffilcal »

Amazing! Beautiful! Also really cool. :cool:
User avatar
RConrad
Posts: 106
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by RConrad »

That's one nice looking horn. I really like the use of red brass and how it contrasts with the f attachment. Nice touch! Why did you decide to go with a friction fit?
Robert C
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
User avatar
SwissTbone
Posts: 1003
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:40 pm
Contact:

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by SwissTbone »

hornbuilder wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:21 pm R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.
It looks really elegant!
ƒƒ---------------------------------------------------ƒƒ
Like trombones? Head over to https://swisstbone.com/ to see some great vintage and custom horns!
johntarr
Posts: 286
Joined: Sun May 06, 2018 11:03 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by johntarr »

Wow! What a beautiful instrument.
User avatar
RConrad
Posts: 106
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by RConrad »

hornbuilder wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:21 pm R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.
I think it was a good choice for the horn, flows nicely with the other design choices you made. How's it play?
Robert C
Elow
Posts: 1800
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:18 am

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Elow »

:shock: Makes me want to take a road trip to wisconsin
RoscoTrombone
Posts: 211
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:04 am
Location: Bonnyrigg (near Edinburgh) Scotland

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by RoscoTrombone »

In the words of my 10 year old...totes jeals!
Doubler
Posts: 368
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:56 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Doubler »

Eye candy/horn porn at its best.
Current instruments:
Olds Studio trombone, 3 trumpets, 1 flugelhorn, 1 cornet, 1 shofar, 1 keyboard

Previous trombones:
Selmer Bundy, Marceau
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

How does it play? Fabulously well!
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Kbiggs
Posts: 1167
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:46 am
Location: Vancouver WA

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Kbiggs »

Interesting choice of mechanical linkage on the valve. Why not go for string linkage like the old Conns?
Kenneth Biggs
I have known a great many troubles, but most of them have never happened.
—Mark Twain (attributed)
modelerdc
Posts: 284
Joined: Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by modelerdc »

Matt, very impressive! Do you go with soldered or unsoldered rim, and if you soldered in the leadpipe, what did you go with? Thank you.
User avatar
Savio
Posts: 449
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Savio »

Looks so nice. Wish I could try it!
Leif.
User avatar
DougHulme
Posts: 488
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:54 am
Location: Portsmouth UK
Contact:

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by DougHulme »

Matt - you keep making my horn for me - one of these days I am coming to collect!!... Doug
tbonesullivan
Posts: 1483
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:06 am
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by tbonesullivan »

NICE!!!!! What a great looking horn, classic Single Valve bass. Love the E-pull as well.
David S. - daveyboy37 from TTF
Bach 39, LT36B, 42BOF & 42T, King 2103 / 3b, Kanstul 1570CR & 1588CR, Yamaha YBL-612 RII, YBL-822G & YBL-830, B&H Eb Tuba, Sterling 1056GHS Euphonium,
Livingston Symphony Orchestra NJ - Trombone
Elow
Posts: 1800
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:18 am

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Elow »

How does the guard on the tuning slide affect it playing wise? Looks great in contrast to the red brass
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

David.
The bell rim is un-soldered.

The leadpipe is an MK50L. I can't play small pieces, and generally speaking, a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well.
Last edited by hornbuilder on Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
User avatar
Vegastokc
Posts: 204
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:46 am
Location: Rock Hill, SC

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Vegastokc »

The more I look at it the more the horn just gets more stunning. :good:
Michael Saffier
I ate twice as much lasagna as I should have...
Chatname
Posts: 219
Joined: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:16 am

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Chatname »

hornbuilder wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 pm David.
The bell rimnis un-soldered.

The leadpipe is an MK50L. I can't play small pieces, and generally speaking, a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well.
That is a very interesting observation about tighter and longer leadpipes suiting the bigger mouthpieces better.
Do you find that to be a general phenomenon or more something that is a personal thing for you?
Beautiful work by the way!
I play M&W’s myself and couldn’t be happier with them!
hornbuilder
Posts: 868
Joined: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by hornbuilder »

Chat name.
Regarding the leadpipes, that observation was made through my own experience. I just find the Bach type pipe well suited to the this type of horn, at this point in my playing life.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Chatname
Posts: 219
Joined: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:16 am

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by Chatname »

That’s interesting. Thank you!
modelerdc
Posts: 284
Joined: Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 pm

Re: My new Favorite trombone!

Post by modelerdc »

Matt Walker wrote, " a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well."

This may go far to explain why we often hear that vintage bass trombones play better with mouthpieces that are not too large!
I too have a MK50 lead pipe. It's very good on the Yamaha 613H I have that you set up to have interchangeable pipes. Perhaps a little easier to play or just a more conventional feel than stock. However on my Bach 50A3 the MK50 is transformative! It is by far the best lead pipe I've used on a Bach, and while keeping the good aspects of the Bach sound, improves the response and openness to the point that it's almost as good as my Shires, which is a great horn but not as deep sounding as the Bach. It may be elusive getting the best possible sound with the easiest to play, as they say in calculus, you can only maximize on variable.
Post Reply

Return to “Instruments”