The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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berntd
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The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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I have acquired this.
On the bell, beautifully engraved:
The New King

On the slide:
Made by Keilwerth
0921

The slide to bell connection is friction fit only.
No counterweight.
Inner slides are brass with only stockings plated.
Trombone is silver.
Case is early tiny close fitting.


Can anyone help me date this at all?

The only Keilwerth site mentions that the made trombones from the 1950s.
But the serial number is 4 digits which according to other info puts it 1925-41.

Is it even a good instrument?

Opinions?

Regards
Bernt
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Re: The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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Can you post or send a photo?
berntd
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Re: The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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I would love to post a photo but cannot see how.
henryTbone
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Re: The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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According to the Info on this webpage
https://brasspedia.com/index.php?title= ... nstruments
Keilwerth started to produce Sax Models with this name around 1930 but did not build trombones before 1955. "The New King" is listed as one of their early trombone models in the fifties. Due to legal issues Keilwerth was not allowed to use this name any longer. Later Models where called "Toneking" like their own Sax Models. I never saw a "The New King" Trombone around here in Germany. The Toneking Series where kind of popular in the sixties around here and I own a "Toneking Super de Luxe" Model which was my first own trombone.
I only can speculate about the Specification of "The New King" trombone. So my guess would be it is pretty similar to an early King (pre 2B) Model. Small Bell, small bore and no Bell srew.
Let us know how it plays and all the other Details about it. Nice piece of trombone History for sure.

Greetings
Heinrich
berntd
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Re: The New King made by Keilwerth ?

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I do not know if it can compare to an early King 2B. My own 2B is a Liberty from 1948 and I like that very much.
The New King is a silver instrument actually and it appears in very good cosmetic condition. The silver is as shiny as new. In fact, it could be nickel but seems less yellowish.
How does it play?
Well, personally, it is not my favourite. I am not sure why and tastes just differ I guess.
However, the intonation is really good on the first position partials.
The bell is 7.5" diameter.
The bore / ID at the bottom of the stockings, is 0.470" and it is the same where the slide connects to the bell (in the cone).

There you have it.
I would sell it as I just have too many horns.

Best regards
Bernt
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