TromboneChat

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:44 am Is Roy using different bell flares for this horn than the .500 bores? Or is it just the slide that is bigger?

Oslide wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:48 am Dear John,
thank you very much for taking the time to share your impressions with us!
I wish you a Happy New Year!
Wolfgang

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:44 am Is Roy using different bell flares for this horn than the .500 bores? Or is it just the slide that is bigger?

johntarr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:18 pm Just recently, I received a Lawler model 4, “Big Boy”. I’ve had a few days to play it so I thought I would write some of my first impressions. Right from the first note played, I knew this was something special. The horn is very easy to play with a warm and clear sound. After warming up and starting up the high range, I found it easy to find the notes above high F and play them securely with much less effort than I’ve ever felt on any other trombone. One aspect, however, seemed a bit odd and that was that the high Bb in first position was harder to center than all the other notes above and below it. Even the Bb in third position was better. In the mean time, I’ve found a way to make the first position Bb speak and sound good but it was kind of odd in comparison to all the other notes.

Since I’m visiting my parents, my mother, who is a cello teacher and has heard me play for many years, said she had never heard me play so effortlessly and with such a full sound. To be sure, I’ve been practicing more effectively than in the past so I don’t think it’s just the horn but I included her comments to add a perspective from another experienced musician.

At the same time, I’ve been trying out some mouthpieces from Doug Elliott so there are many factors in flux. Still, every time I play, regardless of which mouthpiece I’m trying, I feel the horn speak and respond unlike any other instrument I’ve played. Over the past five years or so, my jazz horn has been a Rath R10 but during this past year I began to feel that it didn’t fit with my evolving sound concept. I was also having trouble with getting the notes in the middle to higher partials in fourth and longer positions to speak cleanly. Ironically, I found them easier on my Rath R3F so sold the R10. Even though the R3F is a great instrument, it wasn’t what I wanted for jazz. Reading what others have said about the Lawler’s, I decided to take a chance and order one.

My choice for the model 4 was based the idea that I liked how .525 bore horns feel, even if they can require more air than a smaller horn. I also considered a model 3, which I’d like to try but decided on the 4. After a few e-mail exchanges with Roy Lawler, I ordered a model 4 in red brass, set back bell and nickel silver slide. I also ordered an extra bell flare with the intention of sending one back. The flares Mr. Lawler recommended were .22 red, .25 bronze and .25 yellow brass (7.5”). Each flare has its own sound and I’m not sure which one I’ll send back. I cajoled my parents into listening to each flare and their observations were different than mine. They found the .22 red brass to have the most projection and clarity with the least amount of warmth and over tones. The .25 yellow brass was the warmest and the bronze seemed to fall in between the other two.

The workmanship is excellent and the instrument is visually appealing as well. It does have a kind of “art-deco” look that I find pleasing. The slide is very light and easy to move.

If you’ve made it this far, thanks for reading and happy new year,

John

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:02 pm Get Roy to make a valve and I can trade my Rath R3F for Lawler now.

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:02 pm Get Roy to make a valve and I can trade my Rath R3F for Lawler now.

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Thanks for the report and congratulations on your new Lawler.
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johntarr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:47 pm

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Thanks for the report and congratulations on your new Lawler.
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Thank you Scott, for all the info you put out on the Lawler thread, which helped me to decide to order one in the first place.

johntarr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 pm

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:02 pm Get Roy to make a valve and I can trade my Rath R3F for Lawler now.

The Big Boy plays much more easily than my R3 with the straight neck pipe but the Lawler has a very different sound. It’s sound wouldn’t work for what I use the R3F for.

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 pm

johntarr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 pm

The Big Boy plays much more easily than my R3 with the straight neck pipe but the Lawler has a very different sound. It’s sound wouldn’t work for what I use the R3F for.

So it is essentially a big jazz horn, I guess. I have played ,525 horns as my main axe for years. Somebody slide me 3 grand so I can get me one if these

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 pm
So it is essentially a big jazz horn, I guess. I have played ,525 horns as my main axe for years. Somebody slide me 3 grand so I can get me one if these