Dear all,
I just bought a trombone off the internet. Condition is unclear, but it was very cheap, so I am okay if it ends up as decoration
The seller didn't have any more information about it. All I know is from the pictures.
It is (mostly) silver plated with an engraving on the bell saying "ARTIST".
Due to this I would expect it to be American or British.
Looks like a small bell, bore and receiver.
Would be great if any of you have an idea of what it is.
Hope you can see the pictures!
As soon as I receive it (hopefully in the next days) it will be interesting to see how it plays.
Thanks everyone!
Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
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Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
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Markus Starke
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
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Markus Starke
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
Based on the left handed slide, I would suspect that it is not an American or British design. Did it come with white gloves?
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
Let's see if it arrives with white gloves
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not more than a trombone-shaped decoration - let's see how my wife reacts.
Pictures that I have until now are not great as you can see and the person selling couldn't say anything regarding functional aspects and condition...
Markus Starke
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
Looks like something from the Kraslice/Markneukirchen area. Really small bore - notice how far out the mouthpiece seats?
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Re: Identification trombone - "ARTIST"
Just want to give a small update after I received it:
There is no clear signs of the manufacturer that I could find.
Maybe I have a better idea of the origin when looking at some bell engravings online...
Regarding bore size it's not too small, considerably bigger than my alto.
I don't have one here, but I would expect it's in the King 2B area.
Mouthpiece receiver is standard small shank, good fit to e.g. Yamaha small shank pieces.
The mouthpiece that came with it simply has a slightly larger shank which doesn't really fit.
The bell material feels really heavy same as the instrument itself.
Sound is surprisingly nice and also "heavy" for such a small instrument.
Response is good in all relevant registers from pedals to high F and above.
So I am overall positive, it's definitely not a low quality instrument although it has quite some signs of use and age.
Only real downside is the slide action. It's slow and noisy - maybe another more intense cleaning will help here.
As obviously slide action is critical, this in the end might be a showstopper for me.
Let's see.
BTW: Including shipping within Germany it was only 100 Euro, so results could have been much worse.
There is no clear signs of the manufacturer that I could find.
Maybe I have a better idea of the origin when looking at some bell engravings online...
Regarding bore size it's not too small, considerably bigger than my alto.
I don't have one here, but I would expect it's in the King 2B area.
Mouthpiece receiver is standard small shank, good fit to e.g. Yamaha small shank pieces.
The mouthpiece that came with it simply has a slightly larger shank which doesn't really fit.
The bell material feels really heavy same as the instrument itself.
Sound is surprisingly nice and also "heavy" for such a small instrument.
Response is good in all relevant registers from pedals to high F and above.
So I am overall positive, it's definitely not a low quality instrument although it has quite some signs of use and age.
Only real downside is the slide action. It's slow and noisy - maybe another more intense cleaning will help here.
As obviously slide action is critical, this in the end might be a showstopper for me.
Let's see.
BTW: Including shipping within Germany it was only 100 Euro, so results could have been much worse.
Markus Starke
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"
https://www.mst-studio-mouthpieces.com/
Alto: Conn 35h, Kanstul, Weril
Tenor: 2x Conn 6h, Blessing medium, Elkhart 88H, 88HT, Greenhoe 88HT, Heckel, Piering replica
Bass: Conn 112h/62h, Greenhoe TIS, Conn 60h/"62h"