Holton TR-181

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Backbone
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Holton TR-181

Post by Backbone » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:06 am

Hello all!

I know that some out in trombone land have a negative view of the TR-181. But my question is that there must be those out there who like or even love it. I own one and I am actually learning to love it more and more. Most of the issues I heard about it - stuffy, heavy etc. - I have found to be either my fault or easily remedied.

Things I have done to mine include:

Pulled the lead pipe and put in a Kanstul 169 which I like way more that the C I had before - and I liked the C better than the original. This has made a tremendous difference for me.

Added screwbell so that I can take it on trips. While this was the purpose of this modification I found I like the sound and control better now.

Things I have planned:

Playing around with brace placement.

I use for wind symphony, concert band, and big band in a community setting.

So who out there actually likes or loves their 181? I know I do!
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by walldaja » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:51 pm

Any company founded by a trombone player must have done some things right. That said, I've not seen any Holtons in play lately. There's got to be some out there!
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by hyperbolica » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:41 pm

At the ATW last week I saw Max Seigel playing a modified 185. And doing a marvelous job with it.



I'm one of those who doesn't care for the 181, but other big Holton bones are really fantastic. I've owned a 181, 156, 159, and I'd love to own a 169, 180, 185.
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by cozzagiorgi » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:57 pm

No experience with the 181 on my side. But I had a 185 that was spectacular. I really regret that horn.

And a 169 would be one of my dream horns
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by Kingfan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:16 pm

I love my TR-180.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are still missing! :D
King 2B, 3B, 3B-F, 4B-F, Holton TR-180.
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by Specialk3700 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:29 pm

I have a stock 181. It's tricky beast. I love the sound but it sure does make you work to earn it. I think these are horns that become way better with some modifications.
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Backbone
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by Backbone » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:55 pm

Specialk3700 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:29 pm
I have a stock 181. It's tricky beast. I love the sound but it sure does make you work to earn it. I think these are horns that become way better with some modifications.
Definitely recommend a leadpipe change. Totally different beast! But I agree on the sound. Love it.
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by Burgerbob » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm

Just want to point out that the 181 and all previous designs are vastly different. The 169/185 especially are in a different league.
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Re: Holton TR-181

Post by Backbone » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:12 pm

Burgerbob wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:15 pm
Just want to point out that the 181 and all previous designs are vastly different. The 169/185 especially are in a different league.
Yes. Wish I could try one. Almost got a 185 bell section off Ebay but was outbid.
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