Bach 36: why are so many for sale?

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Bach 36: why are so many for sale?

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I've never been a fan of medium bore, mostly because I never had a specific use for them, but why are so many for sale here and on Facebook?
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It's been in continuous production for something like 80-90 years and there's just a lot of them floating around. I like them; nice medium bore horn that has no difficulty filling in for large bore when needed.
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Many of us find medium-bore trombones very useful, in a variety of settings and repertoire - even orchestral if the ensemble or venue is not large. I had a nice Bach 36B (the only Bach trombone I've ever enjoyed playing), which I replaced only when I encountered a Conn 79H that I liked even more. ;)
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I've bought a beautiful LT36 BOG (from about 1985-1990 if I've checked correctly) a couple of months ago, which plays absolutely awesome. It's such a versatile instrument. I mostly use it for pit work that varies from classical to jazz to horn section stuff, but also played bigband gigs (3rd chair) with it already and it does a great job on all of those. I wouldn't have the same result playing my Conn 88H (too big and exhausting for Jazz and Pop section) nor on my .508 bore jazz horn (too small for making a really full classical sound). Bach 36 with a Doug Elliott setup has been the deal for me, although I'm still curious about testing a 79H at some point if I'll ever get the chance.
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Posaunus wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:57 pm Many of us find medium-bore trombones very useful, in a variety of settings and repertoire - even orchestral if the ensemble or venue is not large. I had a nice Bach 36B (the only Bach trombone I've ever enjoyed playing), which I replaced only when I encountered a Conn 79H that I liked even more. ;)
This right here.

A medium bore horn can be very useful in a multitude of situations.

I too would like a 79H.
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I have a buddy that swore by a 525 on Broadway. I can't remember if he had a 36.
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+ 1 for Team Medium Bore :good:

(Although...I am really enjoying playing my Benge 165F lately... :P ).
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I've owned a few, as well as a King 607. I LOVE them every time... and then they never get used. And they're worth just enough that it's not worth keeping them around if they don't make money.

That said, I have another one on the way...
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Burgerbob wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:52 pm I've owned a few, as well as a King 607. I LOVE them every time... and then they never get used.
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Just play a gig with an orchestra playing Mozart or something similar. The 36 will fit in beautifully! 8-)
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I much prefer my 36 over any 42 I've played!

The only large bores I've really liked are Conn 8H / 88H.
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They're perfect for performing principle parts for 19th/20th century French rep with a modern orchestra. Beyond that they don't really fit too well. They sound small in a big section, and sound huge in a small section (jazz).

If you asked me what niche they ACTUALLY fill today (and I had to answer), I would say they are the perfect horn for a university music student with limited means and a very large array of ensembles to play in. You're gonna be missing the vacuum secondaries that a 42 offers on huge orchestral rep, but for the wind band, 99% of the orch standard rep, brass band, brass ensemble, chamber music, and solo, it's gonna be pretty hard to push past what a good 36 has to offer.

Why so many for sale? Community music is dying.
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They‘re plentiful and used ones retain value so I suspect that some of the turnover is due to people, myself included, trying the medium bore route then reselling for about what they paid. It‘s a low(ish) risk way to have a go on medium bore for a bit at little or no cost if it doesn‘t work out.

I personally sold mine on in the end, despite quite liking it, as I thought the cash released would be better used for a medium bore slide for my 8h. Keeping the 36 as well as an 8h with .525“ slide seemed excessive for my medium bore needs.
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"Bach 36: why are so many for sale?"
It's a good horn that many tromboneplayers have bought. I guess now students think they either need a .547 or a .500 as long as they are playing tenor and then everything else gets out of fashion. It's probably what happend with.485 horns in the jazz world when they considered to be too small and stuffy (they are not to me). Now a .525 is undergoing the same in classical. I use a Bach 36BO for first part in a Windorchestra and brass quartet but everybody else have .547 horns. I fit right in there. It is easier to play a smaller horn big than vice versa. I think straight horns for classical also are rare, maybe it is because students in early years get used to rhe trigger for every b and c in the staff. I'm old school and often use the sixth position for my c's. I tend to use the trigger for the b on the staff most of the time they show up though if I have a trigger.

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