clear upper register articulation

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clear upper register articulation

Post by bubba7753 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:38 am

I am looking for ideas on how to achieve a clear crisp articulation in the upper register specifically around A natural and up.

All help is appreciated
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by Burgerbob » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:28 pm

I've been working on this a lot lately.

For me, it really came down to three things-

I was much too open in the oral cavity and aperture

My actual articulation was too heavy

and I was trying to use too much/too slow of air at the start of the note.

It's all about light and fast up there. Speed up the air! I almost feel a (good) burning sensation at the chops because they are so focused in when I'm doing it right.
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by bubba7753 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:31 pm

thanks for your guidance. how do you speed up the air?
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by Burgerbob » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:54 pm

bubba7753 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:31 pm
thanks for your guidance. how do you speed up the air?
A smaller space will make the same amount of air move faster. Usually this is from a vowel or tongue position behind the chops.
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by Pre59 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:18 am

Burgerbob wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:28 pm


It's all about light and fast up there. Speed up the air! I almost feel a (good) burning sensation at the chops because they are so focused in when I'm doing it right.
The higher notes aren't like playing high on a Trumpet, where there's a mass of air resistance to contend with, there is resistance but much less on the Tbn. It's also about micro movements and balance, and this where it gets contentious, aperture. I think of it as a combination of aperture and driving a car with a "stick" gear change. Trying to get up an incline in the wrong gear and with the wrong amount of throttle doesn't work.
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by baileyman » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:51 pm

Is it articulating A and above or just getting the notes to sound without blowing your brains out?

To get the notes you'll need a smaller space defined by your tongue. More toward the EE than the AH.

To articulate, you'll need a tonguing motion that does not disturb the smaller space. Plenty of tongue styles temporarily add to the space and the pitch collapses. Here's my experience: For a tip of the tongue style, it is in that A neighborhood when it begins to interfere with pitch. At some higher pitch the tongue tip just does not work at all. What I find that does work is to simply collapse that space to the roof of the mouth in a flat all at once tonguing, then reverse and return to the same space shape, and the note continues. (There is no collection of vowels and consonants to describe this.) This motion works from there up to as high as I can play. (The same collapse style also works lower, but with a very emphatic beginning, not suitable for legit, but often useful in a big band or solo.) This being said, you may experiment and find a totally different solution.
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Re: clear upper register articulation

Post by Pre59 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:05 am

All my flexibilities and range ex's are all practiced without any tonguing whatsoever. I not suggesting that there could be a tonguing influence that I'm unaware of. But I'm not aware of it..
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