Valve trombonists for Gerry Mulligan?

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Anyone know who he is? He sounds great, especially for a valve trombone. Any idea why he didnt play slide?
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Bach5G wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:24 pm Brookmeyer?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Brookmeyer
Makes sense, didn’t even know he was on that album Thanks
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Elow wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:21 pm .... Any idea why he didnt play slide?
Sort of a strange question. He played valve trombone, and played it well. Why switch? Why don't you play clarinet?
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Posaunus wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 am
Elow wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:21 pm .... Any idea why he didnt play slide?
Sort of a strange question. He played valve trombone, and played it well. Why switch? Why don't you play clarinet?
Not a bad thing, just curious if he started out on slide or valve because most don’t start on valves.
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Valve trombone was a popular instrument for Latin bands. Also was a way for trumpet or baritone players to get into trombone playing.

Valve trombone offers a few advantages in improvising, especially in this era of stream of notes playing. You can get a lot more facility in fast passages with a valve trombone.

There have been some seriously good valve trombone players in the past. Juan Tizol, Brad Gowans, and Bob Brookmeyer are three greats.
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Also Rob McConnell.
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and Mike Fahn
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Puccini, Belini and Verdi had the valve trombone in mind in all the music they wrote. Today many opera ochestras do use valve trombones for their music. Valve trombone is a great instrument when played like fex Bob Broomeyer. I did played together with Bob for a month in Sweden with Gugge Hedrenius band, I told him once that I played the clarinett before I started on the trombone. He looki funny on me and said "well, so did I".
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Bach5G wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:03 pm Also Rob McConnell.
:good: Eh?
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Also, but slightly tangential, Kai Winding using a King Trombonium (a sort of Baritone Horn shaped Valve Trombone).

All goes to show that the valve trombone has a place even though slide players tend to look down on it.
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There’s a promotional photo of Winding and J.J. Johnson holding trombonia that can be found online. Does anyone know how much they used these horns for performances or recordings?
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Arthurtwoshedsjackson wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 am There’s a promotional photo of Winding and J.J. Johnson holding trombonia that can be found online. Does anyone know how much they used these horns for performances or recordings?
Session details here: https://jazzdiscogcorner.pagesperso-ora ... g_1956.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3buruVWOu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzXBGjrSic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_8CTgGtfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnAPbjAt4Q
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Elow wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:21 pm Anyone know who he is? He sounds great, especially for a valve trombone. Any idea why he didnt play slide?
Well, this question make me realize what an old fart I am.
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Thanks ithinknot!
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