Jazz trombonists using microtones in their solos?

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Jazz trombonists using microtones in their solos?

Post by mgladdish » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:19 am

Hi folks,

I'm starting to get in to microtones and trying to adapt them into my solo lines. My theory is it should open up a bunch more possibilities for moving between chord tones, also meaning there's more room for manoeuvre before running out of range.

Does anyone know who else is doing this? It would be great to check out other trombonists who already have this down.

I'm particularly interested in players who are using microtones over "regular" changes, rather than going full-out microtonal. For instance https://www.rarenoiserecords.com/releases/mikrojazz/ is really fab, but is too full-on for what I'm currently looking for. But using 3 steps instead of 2 to get between whole tones in a melody would be right up my (current) street.
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Re: Jazz trombonists using microtones in their solos?

Post by AndrewMeronek » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:12 am

A lot of trombonists get microtones trained out of them by modern pedagogy and the dominance of equal temperament, unfortunately. The most obvious players who use them would be older - Sam Nanton (of Duke Ellington's Orchestra) comes immediately to mind. Players who use actual blue notes.
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Post by Burgerbob » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:27 am

A friend of mine, Zekkereya, has some stuff you may be interested in.

https://www.facebook.com/zacimag/videos_by
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Post by mgladdish » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:47 am

Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:27 am
A friend of mine, Zekkereya, has some stuff you may be interested in.

https://www.facebook.com/zacimag/videos_by
Thanks, checking him out now.

Is there one vid you’d point to in particular?
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Post by Burgerbob » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 am

mgladdish wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:47 am
Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:27 am
A friend of mine, Zekkereya, has some stuff you may be interested in.

https://www.facebook.com/zacimag/videos_by
Thanks, checking him out now.

Is there one vid you’d point to in particular?
Lots of good stuff in there, but here's one:

https://www.facebook.com/zacimag/videos ... 4597558708
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Post by mbarbier » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:51 am

Zekkeraya is awesome and is integrating some awesome stuff (though I'm their former teacher so not particularly impartial 😂).

Steve Lehman's octet is killer (he's a sax player). He studied with a pretty famous spectral composer and there's a lot of that in his vocabulary. His album Mise en Abime is amazing and the brass playing is great. I wish there was more microtonality in the actual solos, but it's an amazing space for it (and just a killer band).
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Re: Jazz trombonists using microtones in their solos?

Post by mbarbier » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:23 pm

I can't remember the name of the group, but I know the sackbut player Adam Woolf is part of a kinda early music and jazz cross over group. If memory serves they're playing in meantone.

It wasn't my jam, but probably really well done from a pitch side.
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Post by Fidbone » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:47 am

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Post by mgladdish » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:29 am

Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 am
mgladdish wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:47 am


Thanks, checking him out now.

Is there one vid you’d point to in particular?
Lots of good stuff in there, but here's one:

https://www.facebook.com/zacimag/videos ... 4597558708
Ah, that's not coming up for me. He must have set it to Friends-only or something like that.
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Post by LeTromboniste » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:33 pm

mbarbier wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:23 pm
I can't remember the name of the group, but I know the sackbut player Adam Woolf is part of a kinda early music and jazz cross over group. If memory serves they're playing in meantone.

It wasn't my jam, but probably really well done from a pitch side.
I think that was the Let the Music Speak project. Not sure it's still going, but it was a pretty cool concept.
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Post by jacobgarchik » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:35 am

Used to hang out a lot with Joe Maneri, although I was not one of his students. Performed some of his composed music at places like Tonic including a duo for trombone and voice in 72 note equal temperament.
I use microtones in my own improvising in a less formal way. Like, say, around 4:20 or so

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