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by BGuttman
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton 181 info needed
Replies: 10
Views: 707

Re: Holton 181 info needed

A Holton 181 is a good bass trombone if it is in good shape. Key is to make sure the kid who plays it plays 3rd trombone in Band and Orchestra and 4th trombone in Jazz Band. It's not for a testosterone crazed "mine is bigger than yours" type of kid to try and play Tommy Dorsey solos. I agree on maki...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:57 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Moving trigger from thumb to paddle on tenor
Replies: 24
Views: 1556

Re: Moving trigger from thumb to paddle on tenor

Just so you understand, aasavickas, this mod you are asking for will require some custom work. Possibly even major modification to how the rotor works. You are asking that the F valve setup be replaced with the type of setup used for a Gb indie valve. Concept is good. Execution is way beyond what mo...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pedal vs Petal tones
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

Re: Pedal vs Petal tones

There is some science behind what makes a pedal tone. The air column vibrating in a tube assumes an integer series of wavelengths of 1/n (n being 1, 2, 3, etc). Each time the wavelength halves the pitch goes up an octave. For a trombone in 1st position notes are Bb, Bb, F, Bb, D, F, [Ab], Bb going u...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: History of King bass trombones
Replies: 24
Views: 3035

Re: History of King bass trombones

As far as I know the Indy 7B was never engraved "Duo Gravis". I have one from 1980 and I think it's early in the model run. Mine simply says "2107".

I think the Duo Gravis label was only applied to the Dependent model(s).
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:38 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Does this exist?
Replies: 10
Views: 865

Re: Does this exist?

Doug, do you make a special shank for his Olds Recording? I suspect he has the one with the somewhat smaller shank.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Denis Wick heavytop conversion boosters
Replies: 10
Views: 763

Re: Denis Wick hevaytop conversion boosters

I think I was wrong then. Most ad copy mentions that they should fit "Denis Wick or almost any brand". I can't remember how they stay on though. Is there some type of rubber gasket on the inside? I think so, yes. I wonder what happened to mine? Haven't seen it in 12 years. i bet you don't miss it e...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:21 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pedal vs Petal tones
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

Re: Pedal vs Petal tones

On organ, the pedal notes are usually played with the pedals (you might have a coupler. Organs i played sometimes had couplers but they were usually the wrong direction.) It doesn't imply a timbre. And there's a fundamental. On trombone there is a distinct tone to a pedal note. I don't have a bass ...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Easy trombone quartet ballads
Replies: 4
Views: 516

Re: Easy trombone quartet ballads

Most of the trombone features I'm aware of for Concert Band feature 3 trombones (1st, 2nd, and 3rd). In fact, most concert band parts tend to be written for trombones in groups of 3.

Jazz/Stage/Swing band parts are often written for 4.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:12 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Ideas on what next to take on
Replies: 19
Views: 1161

Re: Ideas on what next to take on

I like a nice ballad to play (I'll have to fight with Baileyman who also plays with me). A nice piece a la Fontana or Noel would be just the ticket. Maybe you can make both of us happy with a duet. Your post gave me some ideas about arranging for two trombones in a feature, something I've not done ...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Cork Alternatives for mutes
Replies: 8
Views: 641

Re: Cork Alternatives for mutes

The cork on a Harmon is thinner than 1/4" and the gasket material might work.

For regular mutes I bought the thick cork tiles at Staples and cut 1/4" x 2.5" strips (6 mm x 60 mm). Attach with a glue gun.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:59 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Ancient King on CL
Replies: 1
Views: 513

Re: Ancient King on CL

Post 1908 (that's the invention date for the double brace although the patent date is 1913). This one looks High Pitch. In a modern ensemble it would be pitched in "B natural". Case looks pretty grim. I own two of these: one High Pitch and one Low Pitch. The High Pitch one needs some work. The Low P...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:42 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Keilwerth JK-ToneKing trombone, serial number 2205
Replies: 7
Views: 553

Re: Keilwerth JK-ToneKing trombone, serial number 2205

I can't see your images. Did you make them Public?
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Stuff to hang horns on
Replies: 12
Views: 741

Re: Stuff to hang horns on

If we are talking about a collection of violins or oboes, I'd agree with you. Brass instruments are relatively immune to temperature excursions. A long as the shed doesn't leak there should be few problems (except for how the shed is loaded). Hanging on a wall with no case? What about massive humid...
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:35 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Changing user name?
Replies: 2
Views: 387

Re: Changing user name?

Hi moderators, I am thinking about changing my user name to my real name - for the added transparency. Is there a way to do this in the profile? Or would I have to create a new account? Send me a private message or e-mail with the change you want and I can do it for you. I did it for SwissTbone and...
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:32 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Stuff to hang horns on
Replies: 12
Views: 741

Re: Stuff to hang horns on

... Keeping your horns in a metal storage shed = no bueno. If we are talking about a collection of violins or oboes, I'd agree with you. Brass instruments are relatively immune to temperature excursions. A long as the shed doesn't leak there should be few problems (except for how the shed is loaded).
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Wasn’t this just sold?
Replies: 28
Views: 1516

Re: Wasn’t this just sold?

Got this message from SlideCrook: I got word of Elow making a thread about the 60H valve section, but it was locked and I’ve been away at work and haven’t gotten to defend myself. I bought a 4B bell section from him, and had him throw in the 60H valve with the 2106 bell section. The 4B bell was the ...
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1269

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

You work in a shop. Find a single horn and measure the OD of the tubing going in. Then measure the OD of a medium bore trombone with F. You should have your answer. I’ve asked the guys if we had a way to measure bore and he said no. I'm not suggesting you measure the bore. Get a caliper and measure...
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1269

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

Elow wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:06 pm
Isnt the bore larger at the rotors?
You work in a shop. Find a single horn and measure the OD of the tubing going in. Then measure the OD of a medium bore trombone with F. You should have your answer.
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1269

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

Way too small.

The Conn 36H uses a similar valve to the 79h tenor.

Plus, a double French Horn uses a double valve.
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Wasn’t this just sold?
Replies: 28
Views: 1516

Re: Wasn’t this just sold?

I don't think any more benefit can come from more quibbling. I'm going to lock this thread.
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: USPS
Replies: 70
Views: 4590

Re: USPS

I once got a tuba from somebody in Canada (to the US) and I needed to work through somebody called an "Expediter" who dealt with Customs. I didn't think it would translate down to something small, but you never know. My guess is that there may have been something wrong or odd in the Customs Declarat...
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece collection for sale
Replies: 5
Views: 1193

Re: Mouthpiece collection for sale

So moved.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doubling on cornet: why is french horn easier?
Replies: 7
Views: 674

Re: Doubling on cornet: why is french horn easier?

I learned to read French Horn music on trombone (F-horn reads Mezzo-Soprano clef). French Horn and trombone have similar tessitura and you can play convincing duets that way. Doug is right about the mouthpiece. The deeper Horn mouthpiece is easier to play for a trombone player. I wound up getting th...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How old is my 88H?
Replies: 20
Views: 1402

Re: How old is my 88H?

6H's were marked "Made in USA" during the Elkhart years, but I'm not aware of 88H's so marked.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How old is my 88H?
Replies: 20
Views: 1402

Re: How old is my 88H?

Posaunus wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:49 am
chromebone wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:22 am
It appears you have to have a Yahoo account to view it.
I have a Yahoo account, but cannot view photos. :idk:
You have to have Stewbones' Yahoo Account. I hope none of us can see it.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How old is my 88H?
Replies: 20
Views: 1402

Re: How old is my 88H?

It doesn't read.

If you use the full editor, you will have an option of attachments. This is what a lot of us use.

I understand lack of technical expertise. I have it on trombone :P If you send the picture to me I'll try to attach it.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Comparable Conn 3
Replies: 1
Views: 307

Re: Comparable Conn 3

A Conn 3 is larger than a 12C. This could be your problem on your daughter's trombone. Can you put your Conn 3 into her trombone? If you really want a blue mouthpiece you would need to buy a Kelly. They don't make a Conn 3 size (or shape for that matter) but a Kelly 6.5AL or 5GS would be as close as...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Small Shank Griego Alessi
Replies: 5
Views: 541

Re: Small Shank Griego Alessi

Bradleyhar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:05 am
Looking to buy a small shank PT or RT 65. Gold is preferred but silver will work for the right price. If you have one please let me know. Thanks
This topic is asking questions about the product.

If you are looking to buy one, place a WTB ad in the Classifieds.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards bell question
Replies: 12
Views: 1143

Re: Edwards bell question

ZacharyThornton wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:44 am
I posted a reply but it is waiting approval?
I have no idea why this happened. I approved one of your posts but not the duplicate.

We had this on another post from a major participant, which I reported to Matt. I don't know enough about PHP to be of much help.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Video with sackbut and cornett
Replies: 28
Views: 1679

Re: Video with sackbut and cornett

I should point out that a lot of players of the Shofar (ram's horn) use a side embouchure. The "mouthpiece" of the Shofar is probably similar to the Cornett.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Lefreque plates...
Replies: 22
Views: 1474

Re: Lefreque plates...

How about the wood in my pocket? I swear they used to sell a piece of wood that you could screw things into that you put into your pocket. Supposedly it changed the tone of any instrument. Dumbest thing I've ever seen. The wood thing was called a "Pocket Rocket" I could never figure out what it wou...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tommy Pederson
Replies: 16
Views: 1330

Re: Tommy Pederson

Problem is "Out of Print" does not mean "Out of Copyright". I know Chuck at Hickey's was in discussions with Pederson's estate to see if he could reprint the books but I don't know if he was successful.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: USPS
Replies: 70
Views: 4590

Re: USPS

I understand that DHL has a better record with customs shipments. When I spent a couple of weeks working in France, the Purchasing Manager told me that was his experience. Never tried to send something through them, though.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Adding a second counterweight
Replies: 28
Views: 1539

Re: Adding a second counterweight

I am going to throw out this maybe stupid idea. Could you try some tape on wheel balancing weights to temporarily see if the added weight will work? You could also get differing weights so you might know how heavy you would need and maybe where to place the counterbalance. Should be able to get som...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:09 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: RE: WTB Yamaha 891Z Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 557

Re: WTB Yamaha 891Z Trombone

I closed two reports by randyguymusic for the following reason: Comments on posts are not reportable. If you want to comment on a post, quote it and put your comments underneath. ????? Posts were reported with comments like "more than I want to spend". That should be a comment under a quote -- ther...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:22 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Replacing gooseneck with part of the valve section COMPLETED
Replies: 15
Views: 1021

Re: Replacing gooseneck with part of the valve section

Yamaha tombones share a lot of common parts. I've never done it, but you can look at the parts list and see what is common between the 447, 647, 681, and 610 (and their F-attachment cousins). There is a different location for the bell bace between an F-attachment and a staight so that may require so...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?
Replies: 23
Views: 1592

Re: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?

harrisonreed wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:39 pm
Im very confused by this topic. If slide vibrato is a mechanical effect, wouldn't the only thing that matters be the slide action?
Yay, Sherlock! :tongue:

(Of course you are right.)
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Adding a second counterweight
Replies: 28
Views: 1539

Re: Adding a second counterweight

It may be that you cannot put the weight where you want it. Because the place may be off the horn. Take a look at archers and their weights on rods. The whole point is balance. It may be you're thinking about a weight for balance reasons, but you may need a rod to get to the right location. For tha...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Replacing gooseneck with part of the valve section COMPLETED
Replies: 15
Views: 1021

Re: Where to buy yamaha gooseneck?

I'd bet the 681 or 610 gooseneck would work fine You might even do better finding a full bell section for a 647, 681, or 610.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Lefreque plates...
Replies: 22
Views: 1474

Re: Lefreque plates...

Gee. All that stuff and about 6 hours a day of practice for 10 years! :P
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?
Replies: 23
Views: 1592

Re: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?

baileyman wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:21 pm
Well, it cannot be Bach 9 12 16 because Fontana complained when he tried to personalize slide vibrato it came out sounding like--slide vibrato.
Then how about a Bach 6? :tongue: :tongue:
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: RE: WTB Yamaha 891Z Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 557

Re: WTB Yamaha 891Z Trombone

I closed two reports by randyguymusic for the following reason:

Comments on posts are not reportable. If you want to comment on a post, quote it and put your comments underneath.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach 3G question (Defective?)
Replies: 25
Views: 1522

Re: Bach 3G question (Defective?)

Everyone is talking about Bach. Why not take your bass rim you like and normally play on, and use that size with the Doug Eliott system? Changing rim sizes just add another variable Doug makes great mouthpieces, but they do cost a chunk of change. Those of us on beer budgets will buy lower priced s...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Video with sackbut and cornett
Replies: 28
Views: 1679

Re: Video with sackbut and cornett

One of the things that often are forgotten is that on repeated strains it was customary to add some ornamentation ("diminution"?). Maximilien has really added some ornaments that make the piece resonate.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How old is my 88H?
Replies: 20
Views: 1402

Re: How old is my 88H?

After Abilene the 88H started saying Artist on the bell. The Conn USA is post-Elkhart.

I've seen Abilene horns with no discernible serial number, so yours may be one also.

My best guess would be Abilene years.

Good luck with it.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:05 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach 3G question (Defective?)
Replies: 25
Views: 1522

Re: Bach 3G question (Defective?)

Bach uses the same outside blank for a range of mouthpieces. So the rim of, for example, a 4G is going to be smaller than a 6.5AL. I think the 2G and lower are the bass trombone blank but 3G is a tenor blank. I know the big problem I had with the 1G was that the rim was too sharp for me.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Chem/ultrasonic cleanings
Replies: 45
Views: 2401

Re: Chem/ultrasonic cleanings

Sulfamic acid is a weakened form of sulfuric acid. One of the two hydrogens is replaced by an amine group. Sulfamic acid is less corrosive to brass than sulfuric acid. Also less likely to create chemical burns on skin. Weaker solutions take more time to work, but are much more tolerant of long immer...
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:37 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Doug Elliott dot (.) shanks question.
Replies: 5
Views: 700

Re: Doug Elliott dot (.) shanks question.

I seem to remember that at one time the dot was used for a slightly oversized shank for King large bore (and bass) trombones.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Chem/ultrasonic cleanings
Replies: 45
Views: 2401

Re: Chem/ultrasonic cleanings

EDIT: Here's a page from 3M on different Scotch Brite grades: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/metalworking-us/products/flat-stock/hand-pads/ Those are listed as industrial hand-pads and made of silicon carbide. I'm not sure they're the same kitchen scrub pad you can buy at Walmart or Target and are mad...

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