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GabrielRice

I used to do this work for the Shires company. I would suggest a 7GM or 7GLW bell. The X tuning slide is not a bad idea, but has to be considered as part of the whole package. I've seen Gen II 88Hs with gold brass and yellow brass slide tubes. Which is your preference? Depending on the answer to tha...

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And what exactly do you expect the musicians union to do during a pandemic?

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First off, no, I haven't and have no plans to. But one of the very best French horn players in the Boston area - principal of the Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra among many other things - now plays horns that he puts together from various parts. He buys cheap horns from China because he likes the va...

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I've got one with serial number 9220, marked Elkhart on the bell but originally with the Mt Vernon linkage and F lever.

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Try taking off the outer slide and buzzing through the upper inner slide. It won't want to go any higher than about D in the staff, but that's OK. Start there and go gradually down. As that gets easier, use a spare leadpipe and/or a flexible plastic tube from the hardware store (1/2" diameter works ...

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There is a player in Boston, primarily a tenor player, who doubles very well on bass trombone with a single valve Bach tuned to flat E. He's got it set up so that low B is in standard 7th position. I think this puts E-flat in standard 2nd or thereabouts.

GabrielRice

I have an LB 115 in Lexan that I have no need for.

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In this case, it is a partial thing. As Andrew suggests, the Shires X tuning slide will put that D partial in a more familiar place. It might not fit exactly without a little tweaking.

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I'm thrilled to be joining MSG Sam Woodhead of the US Army Band and Dr. Joshua Hauser for Tennessee Tech's annual Pops Night for Trombones and Trombone Day. This is a fun time! https://www.facebook.com/events/491447995113463/ Friday, January 31 7:30pm Pops Night for Trombones TTU Trombone Students w...

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To answer your question about the George Curran model Shires, the axial section is lightweight by virtue of having shorter valve slides so there is less overlapping tubing and also no cross braces on the valve slides. The bell is a BII 7Y with an annealing treatment. Slide is a standard dual bore - ...

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There is no "them" at Greg Black, there is only "him." He runs his shop alone; no assistant to do grunt work, no secretary to answer the phone and email and do shipping. He does have blanks made on a CNC lathe (by Terry Warburton's shop) and he sends pieces out for plating, but other than that he do...

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Singe trombone versions of Rossini overtures (and I assume the operas as well) work well on bass trombone.

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Steve is out and Joe is in, or Joe is in and Steve is out? The S. E. Shires Company designed an instrument and established a business relationship with Joe Alessi. The founder of the company, Steve Shires, was no longer running day-to-day factory operations but was involved in the development of th...

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WGWTR180 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:04 am
I’ve found with most modern pipes, especially Ferguson, Close, M&K , along with others my mouthpiece sticks out too far.

What do you do about it, Bill?

GabrielRice

Does it sit securely if you give a gentle twist?

How old is your 2G? Does it have any other markings on it, like possibly an R stamped at the top of the shank just under the knurling between the shank and cup? That would indicate Remington shank, which would need a different receiver taper.

GabrielRice

Go the other way: make sound on the trombone and then slowly pull the mouthpiece away, trying to keep the lips vibrating. This will help you get a feel for how to firm up the corners. Also, rather than thinking about NOT puffing your cheeks, think about keeping the insides of your cheeks against you...

GabrielRice

In most mouthpiece-to-leadpipe situations, if the end of the mouthpiece is too far away from the leadpipe's venturi, it feels stuffy and doesn't play well. If it's too close to the venturi it feels too open and is uncontrollable. So it's a matter of finding the balance that works. In your professio...

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I do a variation on Mike Roylance's routine from this book: amismusicalcircle.com/library/bk-005.htm Essentially, it's the Jacobs melody, which covers an octave plus a step on either side, starting in the lower middle register and going down to the low pedal register by half steps. My variation is t...

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There's a balance. I won't change a thing to my 1940 Conn 70H. It won't do everything I need from a bass trombone, but the things it's good for it's OUTSTANDING for in ways that are not available in any modern instrument I know of. I also have a mid-60s Bach 50B that was stock when I got it. The sou...

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Kevbach33 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:04 pm
Tangential question(s) about Shires in general:

Does the crossover wrap for the rotary valve allow for an E-pull?

No.

I don't find the E pull works on traditional wraps anyway.

GabrielRice

Something I noticed today: for the Shires Alessi wrap the air flows backwards from their normal rotors- not that it's a big deal, but I have to wonder why (or what was wrong with their normal wrap)? This open loop design blows a little bigger and more free, and I think the only reason for it is the...

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I would like to buy a Brass Ark MV50 leadpipe in yellow brass with Shires threads, either drawn or seamed.

I can trade a MV50 nickel seamed with no threads (pull collar) or a NY50 yellow brass seamed with Shires threads.

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New Rotary Valve? ... Interesting! Unless I misunderstood what I was told, it's the standard rotary valve, but with the open loop wrap (which blows a bit more freely than the cross-over wrap that has been standard), different bracing, and a bronze valve cap. This is not a Shires version of the Edwa...

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I'm partial to Wick aluminum straight mutes. The bass trombone one responds better for me below the staff than Crown or Jo-Ral, and the (much!) more expensive ones available now don't really respond better or sound better to my ear. I particularly like that the Wick straights still have some mute ra...

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The gear I play every day is a mix of pre- and post-Eastman purchase. I have not seen any differences in quality, and the designs have continued to evolve. Steve is still involved in R&D. The financial backing of Eastman makes it much easier to support artists such as Mike Davis, Colin Williams, Bla...

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Nice!

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I have a small shank 5GS I have no need for.

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What's special about a 2-piece mouthpiece is that you can get multiple cups for the same rim. If you don't need to do that, there's no reason to have one.

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Sometime in the last couple of years Shires redesigned the waterkey lever and changed the way it's made (it's either forged or cast now, I can't remember which). The new ones are sturdier and bend less easily. I can bend the old ones by hand, and with a tool it's really easy. You should be able to b...

GabrielRice

I'd have to work with you in person to help most effectively, but generally speaking, you probably need to look at how the slurs connect above the pedal register. If you slur down from F-Bb in the staff, do your corners stay engaged, or is there a hitch or interruption of some kind? How about Bb-low...

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Book 2 of Rochut is great; no reason not to get it and continue. Blazhevich is also great - you might consider the Sequences in addition to the clef studies. There are lots more challenging etudes: Maxsted, various books by David Uber (I've never used those, but I believe Curtis Olsen had his studen...

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Ken Pope of Pope Repair is an important French horn dealer and technician.

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He was playing Yamaha by the time I met him in 1992. I think he switched just because the Yamaha was easier to play.

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Aaron Beck is making Lawson horns in Wellesley MA.

Virtuosity in Boston is a dealer for Edwards, Bach/Conn, Greenhoe. Maybe Yamaha as well?

Yamaha from the New York atelier.

B&S/Courtois from their New York shop.

Stork mouthpieces from Vermont.

GabrielRice

It probably is... but.... it connects to another part of the horn, which has an effect on response. I suspect the place of the shires rest has a lesser effect on the instrument I compared with my older shires and it is actually a quite brilliant solution. They must have used the thinnist bar possib...

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I think so. Best way would be to have your tech order the parts.

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It's the Shires thumbrest, now standard on all Shires bass trombones. It can be installed separately as well by a tech - the mount needs to be soldered on.

GabrielRice

I like the L when I need to be especially light and articulate. It also requires just a bit less effort up in the high register.

GabrielRice

Matt K wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:05 am
Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.

I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.

For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.

GabrielRice

The 7YLW and 2RVET7 are proven over and over by many, many players. Hard to go wrong with either.

One more option you might want to try, though, is the Ralph Sauer bell (which Ralph plays with a .525-.547 dual bore slide). Lightweight red brass with a detachable flare, and I think it's a type 7.

GabrielRice

I doubt there would be any problem, particularly if you had the work done by M&W.

GabrielRice

Think about this.... He always sounded the same.... You cannot tell what he is playing on. Chris Let's please lay off the lectures to people who just love trombones and trombonists and are curious about all aspects of the instrument. Gabe, you disappoint me. Its you which give the lecture here. Not...

GabrielRice

Huh. That's a weird way to label them. Instrument Innovations calls a valve with two 90 degree ports "closed port" and one 90 and one 180 degree ports "open port." Steve Shires has long thought that 90/90 ports play more open than one 90 and one 180 degree turn, which is why you see that configurati...

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What exactly does open or closed port mean? Why are there these two types? :???: Can you point to where you see these terms? I am not an instrument designer, but I used to do sales for the Shires company. The Shires standard rotary valve may be one that you refer to as "open port." The ports in the...

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At least until you have tenure in your job.

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Ok, that makes sense. Yellow bell, TB47, rotor, Bach 42-lead pipe - that would get into B42 territory? Yes, it would. As Jim says, the difference is the bore size of the crooks. They are larger than Jim says though - matching the outer slide bores, not the inner slide bores. I don't know those numb...

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FOSSIL wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:35 am
Think about this....
He always sounded the same....
You cannot tell what he is playing on.

Chris

So...did he always sound the same because it didn't matter what he played?

Or did he always sound the same because he declined to play anything he couldn't sound like himself on?

GabrielRice

Well said, Matt. I've recently gotten into playing bass guitar again after many years away from it. I played a lot more bass in the basement of my house as a teenager than trombone, and over the course of a few years there I owned a couple of basses that are now valuable either to players or collect...

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