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Never played one, but Conn introduced a bunch of newer models around the 1990s: 100H: 0.500" bore straight tenor (basically to replace the 6H) based on a Minick design. 110H: Single valve bass 111H: Dual valve dependent bass. 112H: Dual valve independent bass. The 111H never sold well. Probably why ...

...and in; summation, King Symphony Bass trombones 1924-1964: http://www.hnwhite.com/Trombone%20Page.htm#Bass Thank you for your attention, I rest my case. All the models mentioned were single valve instruments. Original question was whether the Duo Gravis was the first double valve bass from King ...

This is a difficult thing to describe. Firstly, the trombone is more than the sum of its parts. A leadpipe that works well in one instrument may not be optimal on another. Also, the player is a big component as well. Traditionally we would just keep trying combinations until something "rings the bel...

The B3 and G4 have nothing to do with partials. The C above the bass staff is called C4. The note just below it is B3 and the note just above it is C#4. C an octave lower is C3 and C an octave higher is C5. Why do they change on C? That's the formality. It makes more sense to change on A, but that's...

The Bach 32E is a little smaller than the 30.

I've used Marcinkiewicz 105 and 107 mouthpieces on my 1892 Conn Eb tuba. Might also work.

Also see if you can try the Mirafone H2 (it's also a Helleberg style).

9 What is the problem your students see with holding a straight trombone? Wrapping the thumb around the bell brace should make it fairly stable. If the instrument is nose heavy, maybe they need more counterweights. Their pointing finger is usually too short to reach the mouthpiece receiver. The fin...

I've run into High School kids who are only working on Rochut. I don't agree with this approach. You need to mix lyrical studies like Rochut/Bordogni with some technical studies.

If it's screw bell, doesn't that make it a 258?

Sure looks nice!

Bassbonechandler wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:32 am

I didn't know it was possible to remove the TIS part of the slide.

It is, but it can be tricky to get it back together. I'd strongly suggest taking it to a Tech if you aren't super confident in your mechanical abilities.

When I was in 10th grade my teacher had me learn 7 clefs: Bass, Baritone, Treble, Soprano, Mezzo-Soprano, Alto, and Tenor. He told me that was an easy way to transpose -- Suppose you have a chart written in Bb but the singer wants to sing it in F? Read Read Tenor clef! Yes, I was doing Blazhevich at...

Gold plated leather guards?

All kidding aside, these are GREAT horns.

It might help if we could see the picture.

Chaichan, your observation is the reason Yamaha developed the 350C, which allows the use of a trigger for 6th and 7th positions. In the case of the 350C, the trigger positions are actually shorter than the Bb positions but not enough to really make a difference What is the problem your students see ...

There are some very good tutorials for the F-attachment trombone. For Middle School I'd try to find instruments that are held much like a regular tenor: the Bach Omega and King 3B come to mind but there are lots of others. Holding an F-attachment instrument without aid of the bell brace can lead to ...

tbonesullivan wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:22 am
What happened with Reunion Blues? They don't seem to make brass bags anymore. I had a textile one for my 42T for years.

Reunion Bliues was adopted by a Chinese company and Glen Cronkhite began making bags under his own name. He retired and I thought Torpedo had bought the tooling.

Wait, these exist, if they have them for bass trombone, conn 112 to be specific, I want some!!!! Can I ask a dumb question? Why? Have you taken off the valve cap? Is there anything there to show off? It's just an unfinished brass disk with a rotating piece in the middle when I take mine off. I don'...

That's a European style F-attachment that is actuated by a leather thong. Note that the attachment is removable -- there's a substitute back bow to make a straight horn.

Don't know how easy it would be to ship from Ukraine to US or EU.

Have you considered doing the Remington long tones in the upper or lower register? I did them down to pedals to strengthen that register.

Older (long shank) Schilke mouthpieces will fit your Conn. The 58 is about 11/2 G size. Many of us like the slightly larger 59.

Valves were invented for musical instruments around the 1830s. That's the 19th century.

Wow some great posts and really valuable information! So you guys seem to have come to the same conclusion as myself: ok for community stuff, ko for high level stuff. One more question to muddy the waters though: how about a cimbasso in tenor Bb? I suspect we will come to the same conclusion, but w...

If you have the cash to buy one, and you want to try it... Why Not. There was a time when (as the previous post stated) it didn`t exist. But then , there it was. Why can`t it be used "outside it`s original purpose". Howard Johnson pushed the Tuba beyond the UM Pah I`ve seen Jazz Bassoon, Jazz Bass ...

Actually, I'd like to see a 4 or 5 valve Bb cimbasso (pitched the same as a trombone) with a large bore (0.572" ish) and a 10 or 10.5" bell. It would be a better bass trombone than the cimbasso which is intended to be more of a contra and if made "bent" like a cimbasso would be a lot easier to hold ...

A Reunion Blues (Cronkhite) bag would work.

A Tuxedo bag would work. Not as good a protection as the Cronkhite.

I have a Gard bag that would probably work as well.

I can't think of a hard or semi-hard case that would serve your needs; maybe somebody else knows.

A cimbasso will sound more like a "tuba on a stick" than a bass trombone. Also uses a tuba mouthpiece. And most are pitched in F.

You certainly couldn't march with it.

Those reservations aside, you could probably play the parts provided they don't go too high.

Contesting brass band? Nope.

It's one of the aluminum core examples, so eventually it will need to be replaced I am puzzled by this statement. What does having an aluminum core have to do with whether or not it needs to be replaced? I think it might be because some of the early aluminum cores were not treated and would corrode...

(an aside) If you see an old Olds straight horn (early to mid sixties?) and all you know about is that it has a large shank mouthpiece (even though the rest of it looks not large), can you draw any conclusion about the likely bore? (it has an octagonal slide) (not my horn, don't have access to it c...

If you are interested in a "legendary small bore" trombone, try to find a Holton 65 or Conn 4H. They are the "legendary small bore" trombones. There are others, too. An Olds Recording, King 2B, or Martin Committee as a couple of examples. And they should cost a lot less than a new Wessex "miracle".

When I was a kid (late 1950s and early 1960s), most of us played 0.500" bore horns. That was the size for Big Band, Concert Band, etc. The orchestral pros played 0.525" horns like the Bach 36. Some were getting into F-attachments, but F-attachments were the province of the bass trombone player. And ...

The range of a cello goes from C below the bass staff to as high as the cellist can reach with his fingers. There is no reason a decent trombone player can't play a cello part, although whether we can play it as well as a cellist is another matter. The piece is available on IMSLP (cello version) for...

Really, a bad leadpipe can make it much harder to play the instrument, but a good pipe by itself won't make you a virtuoso. There is the famous case of the JinBao alto that was awful until we discovered that putting in an aftermarket leadpipe made it much better. Rest assured, a leadpipe change won'...

The leadpipe is a piece of tubing into which you put your mouthpiece. It often has a series of tapers inside to control the way the instrument responds. Most trombones have the leadpipe soldered in place. Especially the ones that most beginners play. Advanced instruments will have removable leadpipe...

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I played a LB114/L/L8 for years (since I bought it from Doug in the early 1990s). Now that I'm a little older I've changed to a 112 rim and an L7 shank. Helps me keep up better. I found the Schilke 60 and the Bach 1G to be uncomfortable; mostly too narrow a rim. I wanted something a little larger th...

There were Sears Silvertone trombones. I'm sure they were made by somebody for Sears (probably Blessing). The trademark suit came in the early 1950s and the SilverSonic dates from then. King Silvetones had the curved bell brace. Most of them were 2B's. The 3B, 4B, and 5B date from much later. There ...

I don't think you can get a large denomination US bill under face value -- they are still currency. But sometimes you can get Confederate States of America money pretty cheap. Also, look for Zimbabwe currency, which is also dollars and very large denomination notes really have little value. The Ig-N...

You will have to just print out the Prelude (Einleitung):

http://imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/us ... .lowBr.pdf

Very large denomination bills are not easy to find. A numismatist society would be a good source of information. Note that while "Numismatist" used to be associated with collecting coins, they deal with paper currency as well. Until 1960 Hawaii was a US Territory. Currency for use on the Islands was...

The bass trombone mouthpiece is 3B. I've never seen a Conn 3 with a Remington (B&S) shank. If the 3B is too big you could try a Remington (about the size of a Bach 5G).

Sorry to hear this Tim. Have you looked into hearing protection?

Meanwhile, good luck selling your horn and all the other stuff. Wish I had money...

Matt K wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:38 am
... the only problem is the little guy likes to party at night!

Guess he's gonna be a musician

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:57 am
Put it in the classifieds section.

Done.

I've got a Crate a Cart. It folds to the size of an attache case and opens to a box that can hold my case, a stand, a couple of mutes, a music folder, etc. They aren't terribly durable but they are pretty cheap. Works for me.

Congrats, Matt. Good luck.

Do you still have the lubrication article I sent for the Wiki? If not I'll try to find it and resend.

This is not a job for the faint of heart (or an untrained newcomer). The tenon replacement is pretty straightforward, but fitting a slide to the valve section will be a challenge. Also, to keep the pitch you will need to modify the slide to be shorter. I believe the Superbone only has 6 positions. M...

Jenney was part of the Committee.

Anyone come across pieces recently that shouldn't have been written? Covering a seat for a friend in an orchestra that has one of these on the program... "Carnival Fever," Cynthia Wong. Whoever reviewed her compositions as "beautiful" clearly never heard this one... it should be titled "A Carny's F...

I think you needed two approved posts to be able to edit your profile. The plea this morning got you over the hurdle.

You don't want the fit to be too tight or you will damage the leadpipe putting it in or taking it out.

A human hair is 0.002" (average), so the difference you speak is half the width of a hair. You won't notice it unless you try to put an 0.509" pipe in an 0.508" hole (where it won't fit well).

Done.

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