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by BGuttman
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:34 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: chart hieroglyphics
Replies: 2
Views: 83

Re: chart hieroglyphics

Thanks for that. I should mention that while the 1st trombone was marked that way, the 2nd trombone part was not (I was playing 2nd next to Baileyman). Wonder why it would appear on some parts and not others.
by BGuttman
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Doug elliot moutpieces
Replies: 6
Views: 101

Re: Doug elliot moutpieces

Doug may be busy, but he should eventually read this post.

There is an equivalence chart on his Web site. He also offers a few different rim shapes that may feel better than the Schilke (which I find too round).

I play Elliott LT (and LB) cups. They work for me. But everybody's different.
by BGuttman
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:17 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide lubricant
Replies: 1
Views: 27

Re: slide lubricant

You will find a lot of opinions here. All different and all correct. Different slides work better with different lubes. Some of us keep several different lubes for different trombones. One thing a lube can't correct is a slide with alignment issues or dent issues. Also, they don't clean the stuff on...
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King Identification
Replies: 8
Views: 188

Re: King Identification

It;s a King Symphony. Predecessor of the 5B. The wrap is a bit more modern than the old 1480, though.
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King Identification
Replies: 8
Views: 188

Re: King Identification

The shape of the F-attachment wrap and the solid linkage indicate a King 3B (Concert). If it is a 3B it would be standard shank. If it's a large shank it might be a predecessor of the 4B.

What is the diameter of the bell; and the bore size (measured at the end of the stocking)?
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 83
Views: 3341

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

I did fall asleep in the car. Driving in hot weather with a balky air conditioner. Ran off the road, rolled over 3 times, and totaled the car. Had 4 broken ribs and some scrapes. Wife was so impressed with the Volvo S80 that she replaced it with another one.
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Authentic mouthpiece for an old Conn 78H
Replies: 4
Views: 139

Re: Authentic mouthpiece for an old Conn 78H

I have 3 old Conn mouthpieces: Pryor, Innes, and Kenfield. Kenfield played bass, so it's probably too big. The Pryor is VERY small. Maybe the Innes. But it has an unusually small shank (they all do). Mouthpieces from the early 20th Century were a lot more conical than we use now. My Pryor and Innes ...
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 83
Views: 3341

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

Just played a Big Band rehearsal. All newer stuff. Bass parts went to pedal Ab LOUD. Used my Marcinkiewicz GR and it worked great. Normally I use my Doug Elliott setup, but I was feeling a little tired. Guess that happens when you attain Geezerdom.
by BGuttman
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: "Early" Conn trombones
Replies: 11
Views: 416

Re: "Early" Conn trombones

I've played my 40H in Big Band. It is a little different sound; probably because of the very heavy slide due to the TIS. But I can get it to blend with a typical "geezer band" section.

The heavy slide makes playing very fast runs difficult; I would never suggest it for a "Boppy" piece.
by BGuttman
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Rubber knob for Hamilton stand?
Replies: 6
Views: 166

Re: Rubber knob for Hamilton stand?

I use 1/2' cane tips. These are the ones sold for the "quad canes" (cane with 4 feet). At your local pharmacy.

You can also find similar caps at the lumber yard sold as furniture feet.
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design
Replies: 15
Views: 615

Re: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design

Still, I like my 36H as an alto for people who don't often play alto. What makes the 36H especially good for alto dabblers? Every once in a while I find myself in a position where it would be nice to play alto. 1. It's bore is similar to many tenors. You won't have to work on changing how you blow ...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching playing the right partial
Replies: 4
Views: 155

Re: Teaching playing the right partial

Are you trying to have them play music beyond what they are capable of? I would think a Middle School kid might have problems finding a high F and some might even have problems with the D below that. Especially if they haven't had much in the way of lessons. I would have them do 3 note slurs: Bb-F-B...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: "Early" Conn trombones
Replies: 11
Views: 416

Re: "Early" Conn trombones

Conn started using the model numbers with letters in 1919. H was slide trombones, G was valve trombones, A was cornets, B was trumpets, D was French Horns. Naturally there were other letters for other instruments. It's all there in the Margaret Downey Banks' "History of the Conn Company".
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Help! I want to fix my trombone!
Replies: 7
Views: 250

Re: Help! I want to fix my trombone!

You are going to need some specialized tools to fix the problems you show. The dents and bends aren't something you can simply fix with a pair of pliers or a broom handle. The hole in the case is tough to fix. I would suggest covering it with sheet plastic and taping the edges down. Molded plastic c...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: "Early" Conn trombones
Replies: 11
Views: 416

Re: "Early" Conn trombones

I own several old Conns. Many of the pro line are made quite well. Especially some of the older Bass trombones. I'll leave it to folks like Chris Stearn (Fossil) and Leif (Savio) to expound on that. I own a Conn 40H "Ballroom". It's 0.500" bore, built with Tuning in Slide and a shortened bell (suppo...
by BGuttman
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Connecting pedal register
Replies: 4
Views: 221

Re: Connecting pedal register

Lip slurs into and out of the pedal register. F-Bb pedal-F, E-A pedal-E, Eb-Ab pedal-Eb, etc.
by BGuttman
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: WTB or WTT for 7.5" Bucket Mute
Replies: 5
Views: 90

Re: WTB or WTT for 7.5" Bucket Mute

The Softone has an additional advantage of being useful as a warmup mute. I keep mine in my mute bag and warm up with it even if I don't need a bucket at all. Incidentally, I keep mine inside out since I like the black color rather than the bright blue and red. Works either way.
by BGuttman
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King “Silvertone” vs “Silversonic”
Replies: 2
Views: 192

Re: King “Silvertone” vs “Silversonic”

King used "Silvertone" to describe a sterling silver bell until they lost a trademark suit with Sears (who made a student grade trombone called Silvertone). King models after the trademark loss are called SilverSonic. There is no difference between a 2B Silvertone and a 2B Silversonic except that th...
by BGuttman
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 83
Views: 3341

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

You can make it sound more like a tenor with a Bach 4G.

Or why not have two trombones there. A tenor for the 30s and 40s pieces and a bass for the newer stuff? After all, Glenn Miller had 4 Bach 6s, no large horn in sight.
by BGuttman
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:10 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 83
Views: 3341

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

You would be much better off finding a way to play ALL the parts one one mouthpiece. I play all the parts on my bass trombone with a Doug Elliott setup that approximates a Yamaha Yeo (including a high C in an arrangement of "All of Me"). But you should be able to cover al the parts with one or the o...
by BGuttman
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design
Replies: 15
Views: 615

Re: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design

You will find the 36H isn't quite as versatile as you want. It has the old style Conn wrap which means you will need major surgery to change it from Bb to C. You also will need major surgery to make it into a trill valve (not that I've seen much use for one). Stewbones43 converted his to a D horn wi...
by BGuttman
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Large Piece Library
Replies: 6
Views: 244

Re: Large Piece Library

harrisonreed wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pm
Was that the same kid who stole his school's bass trombone (holton maybe?) and his daddy was on TTF trying to get the school to give it back to him after they seized it from his locker?
No, that was a different kid. And it was never established that he stole the school's horn.
by BGuttman
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Large Piece Library
Replies: 6
Views: 244

Re: Large Piece Library

Just a word of caution. Back in the TTF days we put together a Mouthpiece Experiment Kit (MEK) to allow people to try a bunch of pieces. Then it was supposed to be sent out to the next person. Well, it went to a kid, who decided to keep the kit (and maybe sell off the mouthpieces; we never found out...
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jimmy Cleveland
Replies: 7
Views: 471

Re: Jimmy Cleveland

You mean he didn't play his namesake? :wink: :evil:
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Unlacquering a Silversonic
Replies: 9
Views: 346

Re: Unlacquering a Silversonic

Strong alkalis will attack the silver and you may wind up polishing more material off, although that is also the case for the copper in brass.

I wouldn't expect a different response due to the stripper used, but the buffing can make all the difference in the world.
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:45 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Unlacquering a Silversonic
Replies: 9
Views: 346

Re: Unlacquering a Silversonic

paulyg wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:38 am
Make sure that you follow the instructions regarding PPE (personal protective equipment) for whatever you use. Some of the products you can get are pretty nasty when touched/inhaled (hint: some require the expensive kind of respirators).
And some need good ventilation. Best done outdoors.
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Reunion Blues Cordura case repair
Replies: 1
Views: 51

Re: Reunion Blues Cordura case repair

Luggage repair service.
by BGuttman
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Cases for convertible horns
Replies: 2
Views: 76

Re: Cases for convertible horns

There was a Bach case for the 36/42C that had a provision for the straight gooseneck (2 holes that accepted the braces). I can't take a picture of mine since I sold it :( I have a case that originally was for the Ravel trombone (cheap Chinese) that has a pocket on the outside that can accept my Bach...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band
Replies: 25
Views: 638

Re: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band

The Benge small bore was the 170, 0.500" bore. The Benge models were: 170 0.500" straight only. 175 0.525" bore. Available with F as 175F 190 0.547" bore, available with F as 190F and convertible as 190C 290 0.562" bore dual indpendent trigger bass. Note to Matt: the Conn 78H is a straight horn 0.52...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band
Replies: 25
Views: 638

Re: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band

HawaiiTromboneGuy wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:49 am
Williams 8.
Ain't gonna be cheap :wink:

Also, there's the Chinese (Taiwan) XO models. Won't find many used, though.

My feeling is that an older small bore will feel bigger. I have a Conn 40H from 1930 that seems to play as big as a Bach 36.
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band
Replies: 25
Views: 638

Re: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band

Just a small correction to tbonesullivan: the 620 is large bore with F. The Medium Bore straight is 630. The Benge he is referring to is 175.
by BGuttman
Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R
Replies: 25
Views: 694

Re: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R

A one-piece bell is not inherently better than a two-piece bell. I have bones of both types and some of the best ones I have are 2 piece, as are some of the worst.
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R
Replies: 25
Views: 694

Re: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R

If he plays in jazz band he might find a small bore makes it easier to play a higher part like 1st or 2nd trombone. I'd also hate to take a good trombone out on the marching field -- that's where a "beater" is really handy. If he's using an f-attachment at school practicing without one at home can b...
by BGuttman
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R
Replies: 25
Views: 694

Re: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R

Actually, I think it was the 643 that looked like the 88H. Also a very good horn. Bonedad, if the Band Director thinks the kids should have Yamaha 448s, almost all the Yamaha F-attachment trombones use the same wrap. You could probably get away with any of the following: Medium bore: 646, 684, 640 L...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Another Conn 88H Leadpipe Question
Replies: 8
Views: 180

Re: Another Conn 88H Leadpipe Question

For what it's worth: 1. The small shank Remington was made for tenors. I have one that bears the label "Connstellation" and came with a small bore tenor. Before that I had one that looked like the large shank ones. 2. The Remington has a smaller aperture than a Bach 5G. An Elliott 101/F setup may ne...
by BGuttman
Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 23
Views: 1360

Re: Jokes and one liners New section suggestion

So moved.
by BGuttman
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Having trouble identifying this Trombone
Replies: 12
Views: 366

Re: Having trouble identifying this Trombone

If he is really a beginner this may be a bit much for him. The usual starter instrument from Conn is labeled "Director". There should be a model number where the slide joins the bell. It's usually one or two digits followed by H (H stands for slide trombone). My best guess might be a 52H, but pictur...
by BGuttman
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Going on a long vacation...
Replies: 11
Views: 381

Re: Going on a long vacation...

Not the greatest thing to try, but bringing an appropriate length of clear plastic tubing to attach to your mouthpiece would enable you to at least play intervals. Add a plastic funnel, and you'll approximate the timbre of a trombone. Crude, but workable, and especially compact and damage-resistant...
by BGuttman
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bass Trombone Sound?
Replies: 125
Views: 5586

Re: Bass Trombone Sound?

I believe the tuning slide of the 50H F-attachment is long enough for an E-pull. There are also ways to get a bass trombone cup on a small shank. I put a Warburton 3B cup on a #4 (tenor) shank to try on a Yamaha 321 Euph. But the usual mouthpiece for a G-bass was somewhere in the 6.5AL size (per Dou...
by BGuttman
Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bass Trombone Sound?
Replies: 125
Views: 5586

Re: Bass Trombone Sound?

Most G bass trombones do not have attachments and thus cannot play below Db below the bass staff. Some are equipped with a D attachment to play lower notes, but they are definitely not common. Also, the slide is a lot longer and you need to use the handle to get to the lower notes. Facility with the...
by BGuttman
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Giddings MP recommendation
Replies: 21
Views: 1092

Re: Giddings MP recommendation

... To directly answer the OPs question, if you're looking for alternatives to try given attributes of the Yeo that you like, you might want to consider an Elliott piece. He has a generous return policy and has a whole lineup of pieces in the same vein as the Yeo in the XB series. Or possibly LB. Y...
by BGuttman
Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Hurricane a' Comin'
Replies: 6
Views: 239

Re: Hurricane a' Comin'

Latest track now has it missing Mar-A-Lago. Guess it was afraid of being nuked :evil:

Predicted to travel a couple of hundred miles parallel to the coasts of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina. Passing out to sea off Cape Hatteras.
by BGuttman
Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Hurricane a' Comin'
Replies: 6
Views: 239

Re: Hurricane a' Comin'

Current track shows it skirting the east coast of Florida and heading toward South Carolina. High winds all along the shore from Mar-A-Lago north to Charleston. Wonder if it will turn northeast toward Cape Hatteras and back out to sea.
by BGuttman
Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bruckner - Sergiu Celibidache, Münchner Philharmoniker
Replies: 24
Views: 462

Re: Bruckner - Sergiu Celibidache, Münchner Philharmoniker

From what I've heard, Toscanini was an equal opportunity abuser -- he insulted/bullied/cowed ALL of his musicians. But he got some amazing performances out of them. I personally would hate to try to play for such a conductor.
by BGuttman
Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:57 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Alto trombone in the 18th century
Replies: 38
Views: 939

Re: Alto trombone in the 18th century

... No, the clef is not convincing at all to me either. Especially since there are clef changes in some of those pieces (the Wagenseil, for instance, has bits in tenor clef), and since there is plenty of music (both earlier and later) that is also entirely in alto clef yet cannot possibly be meant ...
by BGuttman
Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bass Trombone Sound?
Replies: 125
Views: 5586

Re: Bass Trombone Sound?

Up until the mid 20th Century the trombone sections of American and British orchestras were quite different. Americans used variants on the German style, often with large bores. Often an American symphonic trombone was 0.525" or so. Bass trombone ranged from 0.547" to 0.565". In Britain, on the othe...
by BGuttman
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Electrical tape
Replies: 16
Views: 535

Re: Electrical tape

A short length of pex pipe slit down the side and slipped over the neck pipe. That's exactly what I did with my Bach 36C on the F-attachment. You can also use 1/2" (13 mm) automotive heater hose or vinyl tubing (trade name Tygon). There's really no reason to have to put up with the adhesive bleed f...
by BGuttman
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Hurricane a' Comin'
Replies: 6
Views: 239

Hurricane a' Comin'

Good luck to all our Floridians as Hurricane Dorian bears in.
by BGuttman
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bruckner - Sergiu Celibidache, Münchner Philharmoniker
Replies: 24
Views: 462

Re: Bruckner - Sergiu Celibidache, Münchner Philharmoniker

One's artistry and one's personality don't necessarily affect one another. Some of the greatest artists were jerks and egotists. Some of the nicest people couldn't draw a straight line using a ruler.

If you like the sound he gets, enjoy that. Be thankful you don't have to play for him.

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