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by BGuttman
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 111H
Replies: 6
Views: 419

Re: Conn 111H

Never played one, but Conn introduced a bunch of newer models around the 1990s: 100H: 0.500" bore straight tenor (basically to replace the 6H) based on a Minick design. 110H: Single valve bass 111H: Dual valve dependent bass. 112H: Dual valve independent bass. The 111H never sold well. Probably why ...
by BGuttman
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: History of King bass trombones
Replies: 19
Views: 1110

Re: History of King bass trombones

...and in; summation, King Symphony Bass trombones 1924-1964: http://www.hnwhite.com/Trombone%20Page.htm#Bass Thank you for your attention, I rest my case. All the models mentioned were single valve instruments. Original question was whether the Duo Gravis was the first double valve bass from King ...
by BGuttman
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How should one choose a new instrument?
Replies: 24
Views: 668

Re: How should one choose a new instrument?

This is a difficult thing to describe. Firstly, the trombone is more than the sum of its parts. A leadpipe that works well in one instrument may not be optimal on another. Also, the player is a big component as well. Traditionally we would just keep trying combinations until something "rings the bel...
by BGuttman
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Two G's. Same but different.
Replies: 18
Views: 547

Re: Two G's. Same but different.

The B3 and G4 have nothing to do with partials. The C above the bass staff is called C4. The note just below it is B3 and the note just above it is C#4. C an octave lower is C3 and C an octave higher is C5. Why do they change on C? That's the formality. It makes more sense to change on A, but that's...
by BGuttman
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Is there a good small tuba mouthpiece for doubling?
Replies: 8
Views: 232

Re: Is there a good small tuba mouthpiece for doubling?

The Bach 32E is a little smaller than the 30.

I've used Marcinkiewicz 105 and 107 mouthpieces on my 1892 Conn Eb tuba. Might also work.

Also see if you can try the Mirafone H2 (it's also a Helleberg style).
by BGuttman
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching F Attachment
Replies: 8
Views: 345

Re: Teaching F Attachment

9 What is the problem your students see with holding a straight trombone? Wrapping the thumb around the bell brace should make it fairly stable. If the instrument is nose heavy, maybe they need more counterweights. Their pointing finger is usually too short to reach the mouthpiece receiver. The fin...
by BGuttman
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Etudes vs technical studies
Replies: 5
Views: 251

Re: Etudes vs technical studies

I've run into High School kids who are only working on Rochut. I don't agree with this approach. You need to mix lyrical studies like Rochut/Bordogni with some technical studies.
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Holton TR-158 screw bell circa 1981
Replies: 3
Views: 180

Re: FS: Holton TR-158 screw bell circa 1981

If it's screw bell, doesn't that make it a 258?

Sure looks nice!
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:44 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Slide stuff
Replies: 18
Views: 485

Re: Slide stuff

Bassbonechandler wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:32 am

I didn't know it was possible to remove the TIS part of the slide.
It is, but it can be tricky to get it back together. I'd strongly suggest taking it to a Tech if you aren't super confident in your mechanical abilities.
by BGuttman
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Finished Rochut, what's next?
Replies: 21
Views: 506

Re: Finished Rochut, what's next?

When I was in 10th grade my teacher had me learn 7 clefs: Bass, Baritone, Treble, Soprano, Mezzo-Soprano, Alto, and Tenor. He told me that was an easy way to transpose -- Suppose you have a chart written in Bb but the singer wants to sing it in F? Read Read Tenor clef! Yes, I was doing Blazhevich at...
by BGuttman
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: WILLSON Euphonium
Replies: 2
Views: 190

Re: FS: WILLSON Euphonium

Gold plated leather guards? :amazed: :evil:

All kidding aside, these are GREAT horns.
by BGuttman
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage trombone ID
Replies: 3
Views: 183

Re: Vintage trombone ID

It might help if we could see the picture.
by BGuttman
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching F Attachment
Replies: 8
Views: 345

Re: Teaching F Attachment

Chaichan, your observation is the reason Yamaha developed the 350C, which allows the use of a trigger for 6th and 7th positions. In the case of the 350C, the trigger positions are actually shorter than the Bb positions but not enough to really make a difference What is the problem your students see ...
by BGuttman
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching F Attachment
Replies: 8
Views: 345

Re: Teaching F Attachment

There are some very good tutorials for the F-attachment trombone. For Middle School I'd try to find instruments that are held much like a regular tenor: the Bach Omega and King 3B come to mind but there are lots of others. Holding an F-attachment instrument without aid of the bell brace can lead to ...
by BGuttman
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Case for Bach 16M, suggestions?
Replies: 12
Views: 224

Re: Case for Bach 16M, suggestions?

tbonesullivan wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:22 am
What happened with Reunion Blues? They don't seem to make brass bags anymore. I had a textile one for my 42T for years.
Reunion Bliues was adopted by a Chinese company and Glen Cronkhite began making bags under his own name. He retired and I thought Torpedo had bought the tooling.
by BGuttman
Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Greenhoe Lexan Valve Covers
Replies: 6
Views: 420

Re: WTB Greenhoe Lexan Valve Covers

Wait, these exist, if they have them for bass trombone, conn 112 to be specific, I want some!!!! Can I ask a dumb question? Why? Have you taken off the valve cap? Is there anything there to show off? It's just an unfinished brass disk with a rotating piece in the middle when I take mine off. I don'...
by BGuttman
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Found on eBay - East German trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 397

Re: Found on eBay - East German trombone

That's a European style F-attachment that is actuated by a leather thong. Note that the attachment is removable -- there's a substitute back bow to make a straight horn.

Don't know how easy it would be to ship from Ukraine to US or EU.
by BGuttman
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Long Tones for more even practice?
Replies: 25
Views: 623

Re: Long Tones for more even practice?

Have you considered doing the Remington long tones in the upper or lower register? I did them down to pedals to strengthen that register.
by BGuttman
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Here we go again
Replies: 13
Views: 523

Re: Here we go again

Older (long shank) Schilke mouthpieces will fit your Conn. The 58 is about 11/2 G size. Many of us like the slightly larger 59.
by BGuttman
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:51 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1654

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

Valves were invented for musical instruments around the 1830s. That's the 19th century.
by BGuttman
Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1654

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

Wow some great posts and really valuable information! So you guys seem to have come to the same conclusion as myself: ok for community stuff, ko for high level stuff. One more question to muddy the waters though: how about a cimbasso in tenor Bb? I suspect we will come to the same conclusion, but w...
by BGuttman
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1654

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

If you have the cash to buy one, and you want to try it... Why Not. There was a time when (as the previous post stated) it didn`t exist. But then , there it was. Why can`t it be used "outside it`s original purpose". Howard Johnson pushed the Tuba beyond the UM Pah I`ve seen Jazz Bassoon, Jazz Bass ...
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1654

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

Actually, I'd like to see a 4 or 5 valve Bb cimbasso (pitched the same as a trombone) with a large bore (0.572" ish) and a 10 or 10.5" bell. It would be a better bass trombone than the cimbasso which is intended to be more of a contra and if made "bent" like a cimbasso would be a lot easier to hold ...
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Trombone case/gig bag info needed
Replies: 10
Views: 282

Re: Trombone case/gig bag info needed

A Reunion Blues (Cronkhite) bag would work.

A Tuxedo bag would work. Not as good a protection as the Cronkhite.

I have a Gard bag that would probably work as well.

I can't think of a hard or semi-hard case that would serve your needs; maybe somebody else knows.
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1654

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

A cimbasso will sound more like a "tuba on a stick" than a bass trombone. Also uses a tuba mouthpiece. And most are pitched in F.

You certainly couldn't march with it.

Those reservations aside, you could probably play the parts provided they don't go too high.

Contesting brass band? Nope.
by BGuttman
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Rotary valves: Open Port Vs. Closed Port
Replies: 16
Views: 706

Re: Rotary valves: Open Port Vs. Closed Port

It's one of the aluminum core examples, so eventually it will need to be replaced I am puzzled by this statement. What does having an aluminum core have to do with whether or not it needs to be replaced? I think it might be because some of the early aluminum cores were not treated and would corrode...
by BGuttman
Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: 1958 Band Photo. No Triggers. ?
Replies: 16
Views: 613

Re: 1958 Band Photo. No Triggers. ?

(an aside) If you see an old Olds straight horn (early to mid sixties?) and all you know about is that it has a large shank mouthpiece (even though the rest of it looks not large), can you draw any conclusion about the likely bore? (it has an octagonal slide) (not my horn, don't have access to it c...
by BGuttman
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex small bore?
Replies: 7
Views: 362

Re: Wessex small bore?

If you are interested in a "legendary small bore" trombone, try to find a Holton 65 or Conn 4H. They are the "legendary small bore" trombones. There are others, too. An Olds Recording, King 2B, or Martin Committee as a couple of examples. And they should cost a lot less than a new Wessex "miracle".
by BGuttman
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: 1958 Band Photo. No Triggers. ?
Replies: 16
Views: 613

Re: 1958 Band Photo. No Triggers. ?

When I was a kid (late 1950s and early 1960s), most of us played 0.500" bore horns. That was the size for Big Band, Concert Band, etc. The orchestral pros played 0.525" horns like the Bach 36. Some were getting into F-attachments, but F-attachments were the province of the bass trombone player. And ...
by BGuttman
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Rachmaninoff Cello Sonata Transcription (Complete)
Replies: 2
Views: 122

Re: Rachmaninoff Cello Sonata Transcription (Complete)

The range of a cello goes from C below the bass staff to as high as the cellist can reach with his fingers. There is no reason a decent trombone player can't play a cello part, although whether we can play it as well as a cellist is another matter. The piece is available on IMSLP (cello version) for...
by BGuttman
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: leadpipe
Replies: 20
Views: 499

Re: leadpipe

Really, a bad leadpipe can make it much harder to play the instrument, but a good pipe by itself won't make you a virtuoso. There is the famous case of the JinBao alto that was awful until we discovered that putting in an aftermarket leadpipe made it much better. Rest assured, a leadpipe change won'...
by BGuttman
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: leadpipe
Replies: 20
Views: 499

Re: leadpipe

The leadpipe is a piece of tubing into which you put your mouthpiece. It often has a series of tapers inside to control the way the instrument responds. Most trombones have the leadpipe soldered in place. Especially the ones that most beginners play. Advanced instruments will have removable leadpipe...
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Pat Williams with the Metropole Orchestra
Replies: 1
Views: 288

Re: Pat Williams with the Metropole Orchestra

:amazed:

Thanks for posting :cool:
by BGuttman
Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: [Schilke] 60-sized mpcs - alternatives?
Replies: 13
Views: 518

Re: [Schilke] 60-sized mpcs - alternatives?

I played a LB114/L/L8 for years (since I bought it from Doug in the early 1990s). Now that I'm a little older I've changed to a 112 rim and an L7 shank. Helps me keep up better. I found the Schilke 60 and the Bach 1G to be uncomfortable; mostly too narrow a rim. I wanted something a little larger th...
by BGuttman
Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Antique Silvertone
Replies: 1
Views: 156

Re: Antique Silvertone

There were Sears Silvertone trombones. I'm sure they were made by somebody for Sears (probably Blessing). The trademark suit came in the early 1950s and the SilverSonic dates from then. King Silvetones had the curved bell brace. Most of them were 2B's. The 3B, 4B, and 5B date from much later. There ...
by BGuttman
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Collecting Large Currency Denominations
Replies: 6
Views: 338

Re: Collecting Large Currency Denominations

I don't think you can get a large denomination US bill under face value -- they are still currency. But sometimes you can get Confederate States of America money pretty cheap. Also, look for Zimbabwe currency, which is also dollars and very large denomination notes really have little value. The Ig-N...
by BGuttman
Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Prelude Tristan?
Replies: 2
Views: 128

Re: Prelude Tristan?

You will have to just print out the Prelude (Einleitung):

http://imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/us ... .lowBr.pdf
by BGuttman
Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:40 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Collecting Large Currency Denominations
Replies: 6
Views: 338

Re: Collecting Large Currency Denominations

Very large denomination bills are not easy to find. A numismatist society would be a good source of information. Note that while "Numismatist" used to be associated with collecting coins, they deal with paper currency as well. Until 1960 Hawaii was a US Territory. Currency for use on the Islands was...
by BGuttman
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Conn 3B bass trombone mouthpiece with Remington Shank
Replies: 2
Views: 124

Re: WTB Conn 3 bass trombone mouthpiece with Remington Shank

The bass trombone mouthpiece is 3B. I've never seen a Conn 3 with a Remington (B&S) shank. If the 3B is too big you could try a Remington (about the size of a Bach 5G).
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Shires Custom TruBore Bass - whole or parts
Replies: 12
Views: 725

Re: FS: Shires Custom TruBore Bass

Sorry to hear this Tim. Have you looked into hearing protection?

Meanwhile, good luck selling your horn and all the other stuff. Wish I had money...
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: New Dad!
Replies: 14
Views: 508

Re: New Dad!

Matt K wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:38 am
... the only problem is the little guy likes to party at night!
Guess he's gonna be a musician :good: ;)
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Bass trombone for sale!
Replies: 2
Views: 647

Re: Bass trombone for sale!

Mikebmiller wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:57 am
Put it in the classifieds section.
Done.
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Wheeled carts
Replies: 8
Views: 447

Re: Wheeled carts

I've got a Crate a Cart. It folds to the size of an attache case and opens to a box that can hold my case, a stand, a couple of mutes, a music folder, etc. They aren't terribly durable but they are pretty cheap. Works for me.
by BGuttman
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: New Dad!
Replies: 14
Views: 508

Re: New Dad!

Congrats, Matt. Good luck.

Do you still have the lubrication article I sent for the Wiki? If not I'll try to find it and resend.
by BGuttman
Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Making a super-bone?
Replies: 7
Views: 401

Re: Making a super-bone?

This is not a job for the faint of heart (or an untrained newcomer). The tenon replacement is pretty straightforward, but fitting a slide to the valve section will be a challenge. Also, to keep the pitch you will need to modify the slide to be shorter. I believe the Superbone only has 6 positions. M...
by BGuttman
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jack Jenney trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 432

Re: Jack Jenney trombone

Jenney was part of the Committee.
by BGuttman
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 98
Views: 15831

Re: The Bunker

Anyone come across pieces recently that shouldn't have been written? Covering a seat for a friend in an orchestra that has one of these on the program... "Carnival Fever," Cynthia Wong. Whoever reviewed her compositions as "beautiful" clearly never heard this one... it should be titled "A Carny's F...
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Profile information is dull!
Replies: 26
Views: 3926

Re: Profile information is dull!

I think you needed two approved posts to be able to edit your profile. The plea this morning got you over the hurdle.
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Leadpipe for LT16M
Replies: 3
Views: 133

Re: WTB Leadpipe for LT16M

You don't want the fit to be too tight or you will damage the leadpipe putting it in or taking it out.

A human hair is 0.002" (average), so the difference you speak is half the width of a hair. You won't notice it unless you try to put an 0.509" pipe in an 0.508" hole (where it won't fit well).
by BGuttman
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Griego Alessi 5c
Replies: 2
Views: 117

Re: WTB Griego Alessi 5c

Done.

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