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by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 63
Views: 2008

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

Just remember. The great improvisers of the past did not say "Oh. This is a Gb minor 7 sus chord so I need to play a flat Bb here.". They developed a feel for the tune including chords by sound . That's learned by practice, familiarization with the head, and a lot of listening to good practitioners....
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:55 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What is this ténor trombone DY ?
Replies: 6
Views: 121

Re: What is this ténor trombone DY ?

I can guarantee it's not a Doug Yeo model trombone, since they are made (and marked) by Yamaha.

The engraving is relatively modern. It also says "Designed in USA".

Hope somebody else can give some information.
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bach Bell Edwards Trombone & Silmilar Trombone Bell
Replies: 4
Views: 135

Re: Bach Bell Edwards Trombone & Silmilar Trombone Bell

The Korean subject probably threw some of us off. Note that I translated it to English using Google Translate. We are an international Forum, but our official language is English.
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What is this ténor trombone DY ?
Replies: 6
Views: 121

Re: What is this ténor trombone DY ?

A picture or two would help us. I know it's not yours, but maybe you can take one or post a picture from an on-line ad.
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:18 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: PayPal 1099
Replies: 1
Views: 60

Re: PayPal 1099

You only have to pay taxes on any appreciated value. So if you have some proof of what you paid for the things you sold on PayPal, you can use that to reduce your tax burden. The law says you owe taxes on all income, even ill-gotten gains and gambling winnings (to which you can apply gambling losses...
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:35 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Coffee and The Trombone
Replies: 43
Views: 1993

Re: Coffee and The Trombone

FWIW - cheap instant coffee with some Arm & Hammer washing soda make a good film developer. Add a little vitamin C and it’s more consistent. Coffee is a strange substance. You'll never get me to part with my metol-hydroquinone :tongue: Incidentally, Washing Soda (Sodium Carbonate) was used as a pH ...
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:32 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Voice Teacher Reacts to Lady Gaga - The Star-Spangled Banner
Replies: 3
Views: 160

Re: Voice Teacher Reacts to Lady Gaga - The Star-Spangled Banner

Adam Neely had a nice review of how the arrangement worked.

I was surprised at the key, although Gb does seem to be a popular key for some singers. It certainly worked for her.
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:15 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Where do you play B natural?
Replies: 28
Views: 1266

Re: Where do you play B natural?

I never understood why someone would tune the "F" attachment to "C" If you rarely need to us low F in T1, tuning so C in T1 is in tune makes sense. Also works if you have Conn style slide springs. Bass trombone players who often need low F in T1 tune so it can be used and pull out just a bit to pla...
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Where do you play B natural?
Replies: 28
Views: 1266

Re: Where do you play B natural?

:shock: They don’t???? And this is why I get frustrated with the current fad among School Band Directors to tune to F rather than Bb. F in the bass staff (and G for trumpets) is in a partial that is not in line with the rest of the instrument. I know kids often have a problem playing Bb on top of t...
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:17 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Coffee and The Trombone
Replies: 43
Views: 1993

Re: Coffee and The Trombone

Coffey was the bass trombonist of the BSO. Until his death, it seems every serious trombonist in New England took lessons from him. I moved to the Boston area a couple of years after his death so I never had a chance to meet him, but everybody around here tells funny stories about him.
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:50 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 39
Views: 1647

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

That chord thing is a real problem. It's one reason we trombonists need to practice the tunes in the Fake Book so we know them backwards and forwards. Including chord progressions. Even if the band members give you a part to work from it's often in a transposed key (trumpet or tenor in Bb, Alto in E...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

The music was good. Proves the versatility of our Military musicians, being able to accompany different artists. And still play National Emblem.
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:42 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Coffee and The Trombone
Replies: 43
Views: 1993

Re: Coffee and The Trombone

One feature of coffee grounds is an oil. My guess is that the oil forms a boundary layer on the metal parts that inhibits attack by acids. Note that coffee is also slightly acidic (I don't know which acid it is, but it's a nice weakly ionized organic acid). Weak organic acids don't attack metals lik...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:35 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 63
Views: 2008

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

If I was struggling to get a basic handle on improvising on trombone ( and I am only a small step or two away from that status), I’d download iReal Pro, fire up Blues - Simple in F at a moderate temp for 30 (the maximum) choruses, and have at it. Repeat as needed. Maybe down the road I’d learn all ...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Science is provable theory. When different studies come to different conclusions about the same subject, these conflicting theories must be resolved, and consensus doesn't necessarily equal truth, and neither do off-the-cuff political comments. How many super spreader events have been traced to Whi...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:39 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Is there an easy way to add counter weight to trigger section?
Replies: 21
Views: 765

Re: Is there an easy way to add counter weight to trigger section?

Easy? Fill it with water. Kinda make it tough to play trigger notes, though :tongue: And you lose some of that weight if you trip the trigger :evil: I vote for the brace on the tuning slide (if you have one). If the tuning slide has no brace (or it's a TIS horn with no brace in the back loop) an ar...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 63
Views: 2008

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

I was in a Dixieland band and needed to be able to take a solo (our standard run was 5 times through the song: tutti, Cornet, Clarinet, Trombone, Tutti). I couldn't not take a lick. So I played with the melody. A little figure here or there within the tune. As I got better at it, I could digress a b...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:23 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Post Needs Approval From Moderator
Replies: 7
Views: 304

Re: Post Needs Approval From Moderator

Wilktone wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am
BGuttman wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:59 am
You posted it twice, so I only approved one.
Yes, I did go back and try to post it again, thinking a glitch in the matrix might have corrected itself. Sorry for the spam.
BGuttman wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:59 am
You are always welcome, Dave.
You say that now...
Any student of Doug's (and by extension Reinhart) is welcome.
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:06 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Coffee and The Trombone
Replies: 43
Views: 1993

Re: Coffee and The Trombone

While coffee connoisseurs consider any metal implements to be undesirable in the preparation of coffee the small bit of scientific investigation into the effect of coffee on metal suggests suggests that it inhibits corrosion. This study considers coffee on steel but perhaps the fundamentals apply t...
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:59 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Post Needs Approval From Moderator
Replies: 7
Views: 304

Re: Post Needs Approval From Moderator

You are always welcome, Dave. You posted it twice, so I only approved one. We seem to get this from time to time. I've had to approve posts from other members with lots of posts. I wonder if your system logged you out without telling you. Since I use a different skin from the default, I know if I'm ...
by BGuttman
Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:06 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 39
Views: 1647

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

Bach5G wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:57 pm
But, assuming you don’t have 30 years ...
You go with what you have. Zac was improvising at 19 -- way less than 30 years of practice (more like 10).

Zac, that was a great post.
by BGuttman
Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:27 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Doubler wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:27 pm
...

Keep in mind that the first political comment in this thread was by a moderator.
OK. Which of my comments do you consider political?
by BGuttman
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:39 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Katy Jones . Handel's Violin Sonata no. XII
Replies: 8
Views: 502

Re: Katy Jones . Handel's Violin Sonata no. XII

I can see why she is Principal. Nice work.
by BGuttman
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

I would expect it's Lady Gaga's arrangement. She probably has an arranger she works with. I find that arrangements in other time signatures than 3/4 feel a bit jarring to me. Then again, we used to play a version of SSB that was used by the 3rd NH Volunteers Post Band in the Civil War that was VERY ...
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:13 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: Warburton 8M, T4
Replies: 3
Views: 876

Re: FS: Warburton 8M, T4

If it's like mine it's a rather shallow Bach 4 (4C?). T4 is (I believe) a small shank.

I have a slightly larger 7(D) that I like on my Bach 36.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:10 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching the Gb valve
Replies: 14
Views: 796

Re: Teaching the Gb valve

Playing long tones and arpeggios in the outer trigger positions has helped me sound better on more conventional positions. I doubt I'd ever play A at the top of the bass staff with both triggers, but if I can make it sound good I will find that A in 2nd position sounds great.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

No.

"Achoo!"

"KingGetzenFan!"
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:02 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Does mouthpiece material affect your correct rim size?
Replies: 3
Views: 442

Re: Does mouthpiece material affect your correct rim size?

I've found that Doug's Lexan rims feel one size smaller. I find no difference between silver and gold.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:58 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Friends over the pond there, congratulations with your nice and tasteful inauguration. Sun shines, Lady Gaga sings, the marines play, .... And we hope that the word we includes us in Europe and all places in the world too. My best wishes for a good presidential period from DK Thanks for your good w...
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:55 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

robcat2075 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:50 pm
I wonder how Edwin Eugene Bagley would feel knowing that "National Emblem" always gets played at national events... but only part of it!
I'd bet he would consider it an honor, as a lifelong New Hampshirite.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:34 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

So now Biden's heading to the Oval Office. I hope they sanitized out the remnants of the Spreader in Chief.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:47 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Doug Elliott wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:20 am
Lady Gaga did a great job on the SSB
Was kind of an odd arrangement, although she sang it well.
by BGuttman
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:14 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

They had some snow squalls.

Still, nice to see somebody saying WE rather than I.

I hope our neighbors in the world will take us more seriously going forward.
by BGuttman
Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:20 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching the Gb valve
Replies: 14
Views: 796

Re: Teaching the Gb valve

Rampant valve use is not a bad thing. I use the Gb valve by itself a lot. There is a lick in Waltz of the Flowers where there is a chromatic line from A to C# that I just play on the Gb valve. Less to think about. I play the F valve out to A and sometimes even to Ab when it makes slide movement easi...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's Frustration To You?
Replies: 15
Views: 782

Re: What's Frustration To You?

Alto clef, hand me anything besides alto clef and i can read it. Don't mean to brag but I'm the only person who doesn't loathe reading in different clefs and transpositions? Some transpositions are worse than others. Reading a Db piccolo part can be trying (although maybe not on LIBrass's trombone ...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:46 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 39
Views: 1647

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

Trombone players get fewer solos than trumpet players or (particularly tenor) sax players. So we don't get the practice they do. Trumpet and sax players can do better stream of notes solos with impressive gyrations of hemi-demi-semiquavers. Try that on a trombone (except for a valve trombone). Strea...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:25 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's Frustration To You?
Replies: 15
Views: 782

Re: What's Frustration To You?

Elow wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:14 pm
Alto clef, hand me anything besides alto clef and i can read it.
I had an associate who hated alto clef so much he'd make a photocopy of his music, white-out the top line of the staff, and draw a new line below the staff. Effectively changing alto clef to tenor.
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dilemma: Do I want a new horn? Do I want to trade?
Replies: 31
Views: 1349

Re: Dilemma: Do I want a new horn? Do I want to trade?

First, I doubt you would be able to get $2000 for a King 3BF that is not SilverSonic (sterling bell). Silver plated horns are available, although they are not as popular as lacquer. If you look hard you should be able to find a silver plated instrument. They seem to be popular among US High School b...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bariton trombone?
Replies: 20
Views: 949

Re: Bariton trombone?

For a while, you couldn't look at any FB trombone group without being bombarded by that guy's posts about this thing. It got pretty annoying. I had a hard enough time learning alto positions. I'm sure there are very few people who want to learn another whole new set of positions. In his defense, if...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:40 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Small bore ergonomics
Replies: 36
Views: 3328

Re: Small bore ergonomics

... I have a Davis Shuman small bore with the extremely bent neckpipe, that I intended to check out at one time, but I have not spent any time playing it... it's .485 bore and I really prefer .500 Shuman's rationale for that instrument was for a different ergonomic problem. He figured that your rig...
by BGuttman
Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:34 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's Frustration To You?
Replies: 15
Views: 782

Re: What's Frustration To You?

robcat2075 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:21 pm
Having to go all the way downstairs to the kitchen to get...

...Damn, what did I come down here to get?
Me too! :good: :good: :good:
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Coffee and The Trombone
Replies: 43
Views: 1993

Re: Coffee and The Trombone

Black coffee has very little stuff dissolved. Add cream or sugar and you have a nice mold growth medium.

Your weekly clean should be OK with black coffee (or black tea) but anything added toi it is asking for trouble.
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bariton trombone?
Replies: 20
Views: 949

Re: Bariton trombone?

As he explained in an earlier thread, he had intended to make a more compact instrument for travel. For this purpose he made a "bass" in Db with two valves. Tubing is bass sized (0.562", 14.3 mm). He claimed that several pro players tried it and liked it. I haven't had a chance to try one (and not l...
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Anyone know of a trombone with longer tuningslide for the trigger?
Replies: 32
Views: 1495

Re: Anyone know of a trombone with longer tuningslide for the trigger?

The tuning slide on the older 88H was quite long. Same goes for the original Holton 158/159. The tuning slide on my King 7B F side is long enough to pull to flat E (though I don't really need to). Maybe this also applies to the Benge 175F/190F. I don't know of any of the open wrap designs with a lon...
by BGuttman
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:08 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?
Replies: 51
Views: 3408

Re: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?

Davidx504 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:04 am
BrianJohnston wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:35 pm


Expensive!
Yeah but GrIeco has some pretty expensive pieces too. Somehow they managed to get 4 on the board. But a whopping zero?? That's crazy.
What do you think we are? Trumpet players? :tongue: :tongue:
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:18 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece outer shape
Replies: 13
Views: 790

Re: Mouthpiece outer shape

The kick on Lindberg mouthpieces is the very thin rim. If you use a lot of pressure it can really dig in and affect your endurance.

I personally like the "tulip" shapes since I used a Conn Remington since High School (later changed to Denis Wick).

Still, I use any shape that works.
by BGuttman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:09 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: screw bell case roundup
Replies: 65
Views: 12609

Re: screw bell case roundup

Not sure why your images don't load -- I was able to see them by "quoting" your post and hand-pasting the image URLs into my browser.

Very interesting idea.
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: TR180 description from eBay
Replies: 6
Views: 634

Re: TR180 description from eBay

The Eb and later D slides for the 2nd valve were a result of pros asking if low C could be moved a little further in to make better fingerings. We eventually learned that a "fast E pull" was not the best use of the 2nd valve.
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:38 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: TR180 description from eBay
Replies: 6
Views: 634

Re: TR180 description from eBay

The original second valve on double valve bass trombones was supposed to be a "fast E pull" and thus put the instrument in flat E -- just long enough to reach low B at the end of the slide. The original King Duo Gravis, Holton 180, and Bach 50B2 were set up this way.
by BGuttman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:34 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: 2020: not the worst year ever
Replies: 5
Views: 521

Re: 2020: not the worst year ever

We are in a "K" shaped recovery. The well-to-do are doing very well indeed, while the lower income workers are doing worse and worse. Not helped by an administration that doesn't seem to care for the lower end workers (except to exploit them for political purposes). The fact that we are living throu...

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