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by FEWeathers
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Stratodyne 67 - Request for Info
Replies: 9
Views: 887

Re: Holton Stratodyne 67 - Request for Info

I'm pretty sure Nick Grinder recorded his album "Farallon" playing a Stratodyne. Maybe he'll chime in on this thread. Meanwhile, have a listen...

https://youtu.be/p5wbeUzDtMs
by FEWeathers
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:15 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hammond Mouthpiece question
Replies: 14
Views: 2175

Re: Hammond Mouthpiece question

"I'd say it's a bit like a 51C4 with a slightly more open throat and less v-shaped cup." That's odd, as the 12M is totally a V-shaped, funnel-like cup, with no shoulders, heading straight into a smaller, .257" (F) throat, and then out through that big, open backbore. The small shank 51C4 is much clo...
by FEWeathers
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hammond Mouthpiece question
Replies: 14
Views: 2175

Re: Hammond Mouthpiece question

The Hammonds have really open backbores. On the 12M, I'd call it a 6 shank if it was one of Doug Elliot's backbores. Also, a really cheap substitute for the 13M would be the Blessing 6 1/2 AL. They're really similar in the cup, throat, and backbore.

Good luck with it!
by FEWeathers
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:32 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Martin Committee Trombone
Replies: 3
Views: 1083

Re: Martin Committee Trombone

"He (Roy Lawler) even showed me his 1947 Martin Committee horn in excellent shape that he has modeled his horns after and really has something special here with his horns."

https://www.trombonechat.com/viewtopic. ... ee#p123563
by FEWeathers
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Slide widths
Replies: 33
Views: 2241

Re: Slide widths

Scratching my head over that Olds Ambassador measurement, 'cause mine is the same as the Super, and Standard, though a little shorter than them. So, 64.5 (2.54").

Got another one for the list: King 3B - 67.8 (2.67").
by FEWeathers
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 2b Liberty
Replies: 39
Views: 3694

Re: King 2b Liberty

Nice pick, Nobbi! Conn 4Hs are superb.
by FEWeathers
Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Alto trombone with gold/rose gold dual bore slide
Replies: 7
Views: 1608

Re: Alto trombone with gold/rose gold dual bore slide

The new Alessi Q alto from Shires has a .485/.495 slide with gold brass outers, with a yellow crook.
by FEWeathers
Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 52E2 Mouthpiece (Trombone)
Replies: 12
Views: 2117

Re: Schilke 52E2 Mouthpiece (Trombone)

I liked the way you sound on it!

Yeah, if it was a funnel shape, the brightness wouldn't be as surprising, I suppose. Must be a tight backbore? Wizardry? :idk:
by FEWeathers
Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 52E2 Mouthpiece (Trombone)
Replies: 12
Views: 2117

Re: Schilke 52E2 Mouthpiece (Trombone)

Does the Schilke have a funnel shaped (V-shaped) cup? Like the Remington pieces for the 88H? And is the rim really 1.00 - 1.02ish? I have a plain old 52, and that rim is in the 1.05 range (way bigger than published specs). UPDATE: I may have answered my own question re: cup shape. It kind of looks l...
by FEWeathers
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: .525/.547 slide players : large or small shank leadpipe, and why?
Replies: 18
Views: 2658

Re: .525/.547 slide players : large or small shank leadpipe, and why?

Ralph Sauer plays with a small shank mouthpiece, and always has after he moved to using this slide. With the Conn slide, he used the "T" leadpipe. With the Shires slide, he uses the RS M leadpipe, which is the medium bore version of their Vintage Elkhart pipe. It's similar to the 2.5 Short pipe. He ...
by FEWeathers
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 1967 Olds Ambassador
Replies: 4
Views: 1370

Re: 1967 Olds Ambassador

I have a 1950 Ambassador, and I concur. It slots really well, has a centered high register (High E in 2nd position/ High Bb in third), and a really solid sound in the low range for such a small bore horn. They're really good. Mine is an early, LA one, without a reverse tuning slide, and without the ...
by FEWeathers
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:00 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51 series question
Replies: 9
Views: 2378

Re: Schilke 51 series question

The Schilke 47 has the desired specs you've listed, but with the smaller rim Doug says you need. If you need a large shank version of that, Doug can whip that up for you.
by FEWeathers
Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 46D
Replies: 11
Views: 3636

Re: Schilke 46D

The highlighted mouthpieces in the photographs below are ones that I have (or had) in my possession, and that I've measured. Maybe someone will find the information useful. :idk: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dO_ppwn6uN7db1X1MFE0sopFJwdDuK0aIKQOhnQuHSq7Ww7xEnOrxHa61W1l6aDkeh0nwuGCRubs6N...
by FEWeathers
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 46D
Replies: 11
Views: 3636

Re: Schilke 46D

CharlieB, Please don't confuse me with someone who thinks published specs of Schilke mouthpieces (at least) are even remotely, er, accurate. :wink: What I said about the 45 is accurate, and it's more like a Bach 6 3/4 sized rim than any 12. Behold! Pics are worth 1,000s of words... https://lh3.googl...
by FEWeathers
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 46D
Replies: 11
Views: 3636

Re: Schilke 46D

I'd be interested to know what the rim/cup diameter is on it, because "slightly larger than the 46," which is "slightly larger than the 45" might actually mean something, seeings how the 45 I have measures 25.1-25.2mm (which is considerably larger than a 12C). If you haven't tried the 45, you might ...
by FEWeathers
Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:20 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Sterling Silver Trombone Mouthpiece
Replies: 11
Views: 4563

Re: Sterling Silver Trombone Mouthpiece

Noah, what's the rim size on your Almont? 23.5mm-ish?
by FEWeathers
Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:18 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Giardinelli Symphony T
Replies: 13
Views: 4165

Re: Giardinelli Symphony T

What size is the Gardinelli Wigham rim? 25mm?
by FEWeathers
Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: All variants of 7-11 small shank trombone mouthpieces
Replies: 18
Views: 5986

Re: All variants of 7-11 small shank trombone mouthpieces

Like I mentioned, caveat emptor. I mean, even if the specs are directly from the maker, they're all over the place. Brian, the OP, listed the Hammond FA2 as in this category, for example. The Hammond website says the FA2 has a rim the size of a Bach 4, so like a 1.02" rim. That ain't no Bach 7-11 si...
by FEWeathers
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:32 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: All variants of 7-11 small shank trombone mouthpieces
Replies: 18
Views: 5986

Re: All variants of 7-11 small shank trombone mouthpieces

Not a bad place to sort through mouthpieces of various sizes. Now, are the measurements worth the paper they're printed on? YMMV.

http://www.dwerden.com/Mouthpieces/trom ... hank=Tenor
by FEWeathers
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: new mouthpiece
Replies: 7
Views: 6376

Re: new mouthpiece

Like Redthunder stated, my M21 (like the one pictured above) measures as follows:

Rim ID: .984" (25mm)
Cup Depth: E, with a contour kind of like Doug Elliot's C+ cup
Throat: .228" - .230" *my #1 bit (.228") goes through the throat, but the A drill (.234") won't.*
Backbore: similar to an Elliot #2
by FEWeathers
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:21 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: King 11m
Replies: 1
Views: 3083

Re: King 11m

You may find this older thread helpful...

https://www.trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?t=6031
by FEWeathers
Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51 or Bach4G
Replies: 24
Views: 7015

Re: Schilke 51 or Bach4G

The 52 is way big compared with the published spec of 25.78mm...Anyone know how a 52 plays compared to a 3G ? Yeah, I was pretty surprised about how large the rim was when I received it. Waaaay too big a rim for me. I suppose I could fill it up with water, and use it as a wading pool? :D Cup depth ...
by FEWeathers
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51 or Bach4G
Replies: 24
Views: 7015

Re: Schilke 51 or Bach4G

Rim/ cupID measurements I've gotten on my brace of Shilkes. Note that in every case, they vary from the advertised specs (usually larger than published). 52: 26.8mm (105.5") *late edit* 51: 26.2mm (1.03") 51C4: 25.9mm (1.02") 50: 25.5mm (1.004") 47: 25.2mm (.992") 45: 25.2mm (.992") 44E4: 23.5mm (....
by FEWeathers
Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51 or Bach4G
Replies: 24
Views: 7015

Re: Schilke 51 or Bach4G

Posaunus, For the sake of consistency, I made marks on the tips of my calipers. From the bottom of the measuring points, to the top of the black lines is 3mm. When eyeballing the measurement, I look for the top of the black lines to be flush with the top of the rim. Otherwise, I could torture any nu...
by FEWeathers
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51 or Bach4G
Replies: 24
Views: 7015

Re: Schilke 51 or Bach4G

Rim/ cupID measurements I've gotten on my brace of Shilkes. Note that in every case, they vary from the advertised specs (usually larger than published).

51: 26.2mm (1.03")

51C4: 25.9mm (1.02")

50: 25.5mm (1.004")

47: 25.2mm (.992")

45: 25.2mm (.992")

44E4: 23.5mm (.925")

42B: 24.1mm (.949")
by FEWeathers
Thu May 07, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Counterweight for Olds Recording
Replies: 5
Views: 664

Re: WTB: Counterweight for Olds Recording

If you can come up with an Olds counterweight (the offset one they sold as an accessory), it will fit on the Recording. A longer screw would be nice, but it's not a necessity. The real challenge on the Recording is that the red brass inserts on the braces make it a really tight fit with an Olds coun...
by FEWeathers
Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Vintage Conn counterweight
Replies: 6
Views: 1202

Re: WTB Vintage Conn counterweight

Well, this type also came with the 4H I have from 1929, and works great.
by FEWeathers
Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Marcinkiewicz 6E small shank
Replies: 7
Views: 1113

Re: Marcinkiewicz 6E small shank

Agreed. Also, their letter designations usually identify the drill size for the throat, vice the cup size.
by FEWeathers
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Slide width for small bore bones
Replies: 47
Views: 6061

Re: Slide width for small bore bones

Conn 30H slide width? It's about the same as an Olds Super slide.

Conn
30H: 2.54"
6H: 2.74"

Olds
Super: 2.52"
Standard: 2.53"
Recording: 2.80"
by FEWeathers
Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:47 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Marcinkiewicz 6E small shank
Replies: 7
Views: 1113

Re: Marcinkiewicz 6E small shank

The 8H rim is larger than a Bach 6 1/2AL, but the 8H cup is shallower (like an Elliot D cup vs. the Bach's E cup), though the cup is certainly shaped like a 6 1/2AL cup.

The 6E rim is smaller than the 8H rim, still bigger than the Bach, but the cup is a wee bit shallower.
by FEWeathers
Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: New Bach 6 1/2AL, Large Shank (SOLD)
Replies: 2
Views: 447

Re: FS: New Bach 6 1/2AL, Large Shank (SOLD)

Still wrapped in the plastic bag from the factory, though there is a little tarnish on one side near the end of the shank. I'm a small shank player, so I'm looking to let this go for $45.00 via Paypal (I don't recommend Friends & Family, so kindly add 3% for fees). Price includes shipping costs for...
by FEWeathers
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: New Bach 6 1/2AL, Large Shank (SOLD)
Replies: 2
Views: 447

FS: New Bach 6 1/2AL, Large Shank (SOLD)

Still wrapped in the plastic bag from the factory, though there is a little tarnish on one side near the end of the shank. I'm a small shank player, so I'm looking to let this go for $45.00 via Paypal (I don't recommend Friends & Family, so kindly add 3% for fees). Price includes shipping costs for ...
by FEWeathers
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bullet Brace on SE Shires Tru-Bore Valve
Replies: 6
Views: 1236

Re: Bullet Brace on SE Shires Tru-Bore Valve

The Ax Handle fits the Shires TruBore valve with no problems. You'll need the .420" size kit.
by FEWeathers
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: George Curran thumb rest
Replies: 8
Views: 1767

Re: George Curran thumb rest

Thomann has a good pic of the Shires bass bone rest...

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by FEWeathers
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: 1941 & 1936 Conn 30h
Replies: 7
Views: 1025

Re: FS: 1941 & 1936 Conn 30h

The 30H Burkle has a 7" bell, but don't let that deter you. The bell throat and taper is as large as an 88H bell. It's a HUGE "little" horn.
by FEWeathers
Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Outer Slide weight posting
Replies: 49
Views: 12413

Re: Outer Slide weight posting

Courtois AC130 Alto: 162
Conn 4H LW (1949): 187
Conn 4H (1955): 236
Conn 30H (1933): 252
Olds Super (1937): 238
Olds Standard (1946): 222
Olds Super (1947): 208
Olds Recording (1950, red brass): 249
Old Recording (1955, nickel silver): 255
Olds P-22 GR Model (1977): 266
by FEWeathers
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Sauer screw bell
Replies: 20
Views: 2867

Re: Sauer screw bell

FEWeathers wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:38 pm
"Ralph has a custom Schilke mouthpiece, essentially a 51 rim on a 50 cup in a special lightweight blank. It's small shank..."

^^Gabe Langfur on page 16 of the old Shires Q&A thread.
by FEWeathers
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Sauer screw bell
Replies: 20
Views: 2867

Re: Sauer screw bell

oops.
by FEWeathers
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Sauer screw bell
Replies: 20
Views: 2867

Re: Sauer screw bell

FWIW, Ralph uses a small shank mouthpiece on his signature Shires horn, as he did on the 88HTO with the SL2547 slide. A picture is worth a 1,000 words...

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by FEWeathers
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Joe Alessi
Replies: 151
Views: 18870

Re: Joe Alessi

Ben Griffin, circa 2016... [Shires Q&A, what would you like to know? Post by ttf_griffinben » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:49 am Quote from: tombone21 on Sep 15, 2016, 10:03AMWhat Shires components are most similar to the Edwards Alessi horn? In the interest of "what-ifs", because they are fun, the following ...
by FEWeathers
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Joe Alessi
Replies: 151
Views: 18870

Re: Joe Alessi

Jim Nova has the best take on this...

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by FEWeathers
Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Olds Star Moutpiece
Replies: 5
Views: 850

Re: Olds Star Moutpiece

BTW, the Olds 1* seems to have measurements similar to ones mentioned in the 1939 Catalog for the Olds 1, but maybe they were a fudging the diameter a bit: The catalog says a 1" diameter cup (measures more like a Bach 6 3/4), and a "deep" cup (which turns out to be like an Elliot C+ cup), and a .250...
by FEWeathers
Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Olds Star Moutpiece
Replies: 5
Views: 850

Re: Olds Star Moutpiece

I have a theory about the Olds 1* mouthpiece: it is made for competitor's horns with regular small shank receivers. That's my hypothesis, anyway, as I have an Olds 1* and it fits my Olds tenors like a Bach, or other normal Morse taper mouthpieces. That is to say, it doesn't go in far enough. It fits...
by FEWeathers
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E Shires T47 w/ yellow brass end crook vs. T47 w/ nickel silver end crook
Replies: 2
Views: 794

Re: S.E Shires T47 w/ yellow brass end crook vs. T47 w/ nickel silver end crook

This might be helpful, as Ben Griffin explains the effect different materials has on handslides,

"A yellow handslide crook gives you a little more warmth. It rounds out the articulations more than the nickel silver does..."

https://youtu.be/iMUdz0OHe70
by FEWeathers
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Found one, thanks, chat!
Replies: 11
Views: 1388

Re: WTB: Black 2G Lightweight or Regular

Yes, it's a U.S. Territory, currency is the Dollar, etc.
by FEWeathers
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88H Hand Slides
Replies: 36
Views: 4609

Re: Conn 88H Hand Slides

Compare it to the cork barrels? Behold! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3WlnudTRrg3SAX50RnBZGPAsS5TzOSnCkyipQwmRO10JYvoWrWTPAa2eRC38k46jPbzCpBPvhK7q4FEfwJBnTdGSo7yh26XmYbItqkM9ROIEROs01YiwwkKpb2rZxzYHthR9g1uLycFw-R0nO2ZSuIDFxv80WEZCdWC6uU1oIt-PEqoy1dOSTN4DflJO4NLAyqREyuES2snbzXaqA8gjYgzpbnPJQM7uP8...
by FEWeathers
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88H Hand Slides
Replies: 36
Views: 4609

Re: Conn 88H Hand Slides

What castrubone says. Pick up the one from Dillons, and have it in a few days. It could be months if you order through ProWinds, as they have none in stock.

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