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by Cotboneman
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Re: Trombone Trios

fsgazda wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:10 pm
The Allen Chase trios are kind of fun.

https://www.hickeys.com/search/products/sku034043.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCKNpZFK78s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjq0kb_BC4g

There are a few others on youtube. I personally like the March and Stiff Riff.
Awesome, thanks!
by Cotboneman
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Re: Trombone Trios

I also really like the trombone trio way more than trombone quartet. The Brian Lynn trios are really good. I think there are three of them: Steak and Kidney Supper, Ba-Dee-Doo-Dup, and Bachy Things. The believe the 2nd movement in Steak and Kidney Supper has pedal D's in the bass trombone part but ...
by Cotboneman
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: What did you want to be when you were young? Are you doing that?
Replies: 13
Views: 706

Re: What did you want to be when you were young? Are you doing that?

I wanted to be a high school band director; I knew that the moment I stepped into my high school band room in 1971 and was hooked into the band culture. It didn't hurt that my mom and dad were working musicians, so music making was always a part of my life. I picked up two degrees from DePaul Univer...
by Cotboneman
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Ralph Sauer Bach transcriptions
Replies: 4
Views: 410

Re: Ralph Sauer Bach transcriptions

Bit of Covid related occupational therapy... Been working on learning over dubbing and a bit of basic video editing using Ralph Sauer's great arrangements of Bach organ works. Published by Cherry classics. Two are done and I'm looking into starting no. 3 next week. Hope you like them https://www.yo...
by Cotboneman
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:43 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Re: Trombone Trios

I played trios with two bassoons, and one of them was pretty good at finding free stuff. Some ideas: Boismoitier trios - only for flute, but nicely transcribed for 3 trombones. 1st is in tenor clef https://www.free-scores.com/free-sheet-music.php?compositeur=joseph-bodin-de-boismortier&Arrangeur=ja...
by Cotboneman
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A fad we haven't seen yet...fortunately?
Replies: 23
Views: 1266

Re: A fad we haven't seen yet...fortunately?

I’ve never been a fan of the weathered, distressed look, and on brass instruments have always had concerns about being in contact with raw brass. I play an old Getzen 1062 that’s 25 years old, but still looks like it was just bought a couple years ago. I do like the brushed finish look, but I need l...
by Cotboneman
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Coranavirus Trombonist experience.
Replies: 1
Views: 479

Re: Coranavirus Trombonist experience.

Thanks for bringing up the topic. A lot of us were caught with no playing opportunities when the shutdown came. For pro trombonists who make their living playing, I can't imagine the anguish they must still feel, not really knowing when they will be able to safely ply their craft. For retired educat...
by Cotboneman
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Re: Trombone Trios

I've got a big quartet book, but not many trios. Of the trios I have, I've got two that are fun and good music. Jeff's Jaunt by David Stephen Powell is kinda jazzy with a couple high Cs in the 1st and 2nd parts. It's up tempo and fun. And then there's Triotje ("little trio" in Dutch) by Michael Eve...
by Cotboneman
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why are earlier horns better?
Replies: 75
Views: 4900

Re: Why are earlier horns better?

Early Yamahas are a prime example, I believe. Their instruments from the 60's and early 70's are nothing like their Xeno models today. Sorry, but I know a lot of trombone players who do not like the Xeno but the 70 and 80 horns. I am one of them.. I had a lot King 2B SilverSonic, the best one was a...
by Cotboneman
Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Re: Trombone Trios

I had a piece published by Kendor called "Trio for Trombones" by Beethoven. It was his "Abschiedgesang". It's a chorale and fugue and if the bass Trombone gets carried away kicking off the fugue the 1st and 2nd have to hang on for dear life. Another trio I like is called "Trio for Trombones" by Men...
by Cotboneman
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:56 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Music lessons every day?
Replies: 13
Views: 1019

Re: Music lessons every day?

I have been teaching band camps online the last couple weeks. It's exhausting as a teacher, IMO much worse than doing it in real life, and I'm sure it's less enjoyable for the students as well. Online lessons 1 on 1 are not bad, though they're better in person too, IMO. I have been teaching online ...
by Cotboneman
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Trombone Trios
Replies: 14
Views: 817

Trombone Trios

I find that playing trombone trio music is, depending on the arranger or composer of course, a little more rewarding for the players. The parts tend to more interesting for everyone, and for us older guys, and guys who have been away from playing awhile, that first part doesn't always call for belti...
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece rabbit hole! Help needed!
Replies: 19
Views: 1512

Re: Mouthpiece rabbit hole! Help needed!

We trombonists are just as bad on collecting horns and equipment as guitar players are. I might know of one guy who has only one horn. Most of us have four or more. The same goes for mouthpieces. I may have ten or twelve, which is probably a modest number. I go by feel; Wicks are not my cup of tea. ...
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: When do you think you'll play with other people again?
Replies: 48
Views: 2418

Re: When do you think you'll play with other people again?

BGuttman wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:22 pm
One of my bands will have a reduced concert season starting in mid July. Sadly I cannot join them because I have developed cataracts and will be in the surgery cycle.
Please be well!
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: When do you think you'll play with other people again?
Replies: 48
Views: 2418

Re: When do you think you'll play with other people again?

I've played duet and trio "driveway" trombone practices and concerts this spring and throughout the pandemic, but it's been in open air and we space ourselves out. That's gone okay, but I don't see being in a confined space with an 80 piece ensemble in two and a half hour rehearsals for a long time....
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Musical Instruments Online
Replies: 12
Views: 1076

Re: Musical Instruments Online

There is no question that being able to play test an instrument at a brick and mortar store is absolutely the best way to buy a horn in my view, but those stores are dwindling away, and not everyone can get to one easily, or find a deal that fits their wallets. Hence the rise of online buying. I can...
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Taking a Break
Replies: 14
Views: 1957

Re: Taking a Break

I took off a couple of years after graduate school because i couldn't find a full-time teaching job in the Chicago area. I'd also gotten married, which meant I was not going to able to lay around the house. So I took a job in the mortgage services industry for three years. I didn't play much during ...
by Cotboneman
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What is this monstrosity?
Replies: 19
Views: 1839

Re: What is this monstrosity?

As a quick background on this thread I remember an adjustable cup trumpet mouthpiece, first produced by Walter Sarad back in the early 1960's. If memory serves me I think these mouthpieces were originally meant for trumpet teachers to work with their students in finding a good cup depth for them. Mu...
by Cotboneman
Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: bass Trombone mpc observation
Replies: 60
Views: 4482

Re: bass Trombone mpc observation

Doug Elliott wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:17 pm
People of different ethnic backgrounds tend to have different lip textures, among other physical differences, and that MAY be a factor.
:idea:
by Cotboneman
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: When do you think you'll play with other people again?
Replies: 48
Views: 2418

Re: When do you think you'll play with other people again?

I have serious concerns that many groups will be able to return to normal this year. I live in Arizona, which yesterday (June 2nd) reported over 1,000 Covid-19 hospitalizations, and that number is going to be going up. During the stay home order period there were strong indications that the pandemic...
by Cotboneman
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Range of acceptable sizes for bass
Replies: 34
Views: 3214

Re: Range of acceptable sizes for bass

I'm in at the end of this discussion. But I was wondering if the Schilke were considered? Sounds like Elow is in an ideal position to try different pieces. I'm running a Holton TR180. Use a throat opened Schilke 60 when I'm filling in on tuba charts, a straight Schilke 60 in orchestra, Schilke 58 i...
by Cotboneman
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Keeping Score | Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5 (FULL DOCUMENTARY AND CONCERT)
Replies: 5
Views: 625

Re: Keeping Score | Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5 (FULL DOCUMENTARY AND CONCERT)

These videos are great. I just saw one on Mahler's First Symphony and recommended it to the members of our community orchestra, which is scheduled to perform the work in October - that is if there is a 2020 season.
by Cotboneman
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Tinnitus
Replies: 17
Views: 2363

Re: Tinnitus

For me as a high school band director for over thirty years, hearing loss and Tinnitus seemed like an occupational hazard. The dB level of a marching band in an enclosed practice space I have been total can approach the volume of a 747 jet engine. Despite using earplugs in mid-career, I started losi...
by Cotboneman
Thu May 28, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why are earlier horns better?
Replies: 75
Views: 4900

Re: Why are earlier horns better?

I don't know if one can make a generalization that the older, the better when it comes to trombones. Manufacturing has evolved just as has every other human endeavor. Early Yamahas are a prime example, I believe. Their instruments from the 60's and early 70's are nothing like their Xeno models today...
by Cotboneman
Sun May 24, 2020 8:27 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Is it okay to go to college for a music education degree later in life? Is the virus going to change music education?
Replies: 23
Views: 1531

Re: Is it okay to go to college for a music education degree later in life? Is the virus going to change music education

I just want to point out that it is really too early right now to take decisions based on the virus. We don't know if or when there will be a vaccine. A vaccine could solve everything but could also be ineffective if the virus mutates too fast. The virus could mutate to less contagious strains. Etc...
by Cotboneman
Sat May 23, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?
Replies: 54
Views: 2359

Re: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?

Like most school trombonists, I started on tenor trombone, after playing trumpet and baritone horn in middle school. I didn't play any bass through high school, but started playing it as an undergraduate at DePaul University as a music education major. I didn't purchase one until graduate school the...
by Cotboneman
Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Show me your stable
Replies: 79
Views: 6539

Re: Show me your stable

Here's my collection; Getzen 1050 Eterna (after BAC restoration in 2019), Yamaha 5335 Bb trumpet, John Packer 133 MLR medium bore, JP/Rath 3320 (.547 bore), Getzen 1062FD dependent bass, in front of a Williams digital piano. The Getzens are more than 20 years old, and the Yamaha is about 15 years ol...
by Cotboneman
Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Mouthpiece Express?
Replies: 26
Views: 4318

Re: Mouthpiece Express?

I have purchased several gold plated mouthpieces from Mouthpiece Express over the years. They have all held up quite well.
by Cotboneman
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: The One that Got Away
Replies: 22
Views: 2957

Re: The One that Got Away

I think I've told this story on the old forum site. When I was a Freshman at DePaul University in the mid-70's I was studying with Mark McDunn, who was a clinician for Selmer. I was playing on a beat-up Conn 6H at the time and Prof. McDunn suggested that I purchase one of the Selmer Boleros he was b...
by Cotboneman
Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: BAC Paseo thoughts
Replies: 10
Views: 2240

Re: BAC Paseo thoughts

I'd agree that if you like the sound and feel of the horn,then it's a good one for you. My experience with BAC has been with their restoration services, which for me was terrific. I'm sure they, like many newer, expanding companies, have things to improve on. Some of their designs are a little odd v...
by Cotboneman
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Red Rot found on newer vs. old horns
Replies: 7
Views: 1494

Re: Red Rot found on newer vs. old horns

I had red rot on both my 80's era Bach 42B and a 50B, before I finally had to ditch them in the early 90's. I bought a Getzen 1050 not long after that, which about 20 years later developed red rot on both the outer brass slides. So it happens a lot on older horns. Unless restored that's usually the ...
by Cotboneman
Mon May 20, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Kanstul
Replies: 124
Views: 24204

Re: Kanstul

Mike Corrigan posted a video on Facebook. He's obviously at the Kanstul factory, although he never says the name. I'm assuming this is for legal reasons. Apparently B.A.C. is acquiring all the tooling. Is anyone able to elaborate? I just saw the video, and the description now says that B.A.C. is ac...
by Cotboneman
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Red rot on bell edge
Replies: 9
Views: 2015

Re: Red rot on bell edge

Red rot is a serious condition which usually manifests itself on outer slides. I had two Bach horns that developed this issue within about 5 years of ownership. Both required overhauls (new outer slides). It's probably an accurate assessment that discoloration near or on the wire rim is acid bleed, ...
by Cotboneman
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Does anyone change mpc’s regularly?
Replies: 20
Views: 2966

Re: Does anyone change mpc’s regularly?

I play bass principally and have played on a Schilke 59 for about 25 years. Lately I have been playing tenor again as well and was using a Schilke 53, but was finding that the rim feels too dissimilar to the 59, which prompted me to try the Griego 1 for bass and 4 for the tenor. The rims are much mo...
by Cotboneman
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: John Packer Rath Trombones
Replies: 24
Views: 4547

Re: John Packer Rath Trombones

As a bit of a follow-up, I've been playing the JP Rath 3320 now for about a year, using it regularly in a community concert band and also a trombone trio which rehearses weekly. I have absolutely no complaints about it, either musically or mechanically. Workmanship is great, no lacquer wear, acid bl...
by Cotboneman
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach instruments and their consistency.
Replies: 35
Views: 4276

Re: Bach instruments and their consistency.

I've owned two Bach trombones from the 1980's which I bought while I studied in grad school at DePaul - a 42B and a 50B. I don't know where they were assembled, but they were stamped Elkhart. I bought them both after play testing them at a local music store. They played okay, with some resistance, b...
by Cotboneman
Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 41
Views: 8834

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

The Getzen 1052 is actually pretty good at that sort of thing. I have one though its being cut up a million different ways to make a custom horn for me. Bt if I hadn't stumbled upon the exact right set of components at the right time I'd have been fine keeping it. I used it mostly for big band stuf...
by Cotboneman
Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Instruments made in China
Replies: 21
Views: 4894

Re: Instruments made in China

I've posted on another thread here about the JP Rath line of instruments, which are starting to get some notoriety here in the states. I have a JP Rath 3320 open wrap .547 bore tenor that I bought through Horn Guys. The workmanship is really outstanding on this instrument, and plays on par or even b...
by Cotboneman
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Great Youtube channel for brass players...
Replies: 9
Views: 4984

Re: Great Youtube channel for brass players...

HipBone is a great site. He did a wonderful interview a few years back with the late great Bill Watrous that was an absolute joy. I hope more people check that out.
by Cotboneman
Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke M6.0
Replies: 10
Views: 3267

Re: Schilke M6.0

I play on one, mostly community symphonic work. It's got a slightly wider rim and shallower cup than the the 60, which I used to play but got to be too much work for me! I also have a 59 that I use for community concert band and brass ensemble work and is much easier to play longer periods of time o...
by Cotboneman
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: John Packer Rath Trombones
Replies: 24
Views: 4547

Re: John Packer Rath Trombones

I purchased one this past spring from Steve Ferguson's shop at Hornguys.com. I am sure that they go through each horn carefully before they go out the door. I play bass trombone most of the time but I wanted a good, affordable large bore tenor for the occasional concert band date. I've owned in my t...

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