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by TheSheriff
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

johntarr wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:51 pm
The only disadvantage to the case that I can think of is that it could be mistaken for a viola so I might be the brunt of some viola jokes. And then when they find out it’s really a trombone, the trombone jokes.
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Very good, John. I pretty much thought the same thing when I got my case.
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by TheSheriff
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

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bkessler, congratulations on your new Lawler model 2. They are great trombones.
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by TheSheriff
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

The Big Boy plays much more easily than my R3 with the straight neck pipe but the Lawler has a very different sound. It’s sound wouldn’t work for what I use the R3F for. So it is essentially a big jazz horn, I guess. I have played ,525 horns as my main axe for years. Somebody slide me 3 grand so I ...
by TheSheriff
Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

.. Thanks for the report and congratulations on your new Lawler. .. Thank you Scott, for all the info you put out on the Lawler thread, which helped me to decide to order one in the first place. .. John, I am glad my comments were of benefit and I hope you get to play your Lawler to your hearts con...
by TheSheriff
Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

Mikebmiller wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:02 pm
Get Roy to make a valve and I can trade my Rath R3F for Lawler now.
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A few years ago I almost had him convinced to do a valve but he'd rather not. He wants to keep it simple and just build straight horns.
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by TheSheriff
Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

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Concerning the bell section. Only the neckpipe on the model 4 is different (larger) as compared to the 500 and 508 models.
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by TheSheriff
Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

Just recently, I received a Lawler model 4, “Big Boy”. I’ve had a few days to play it so I thought I would write some of my first impressions. Right from the first note played, I knew this was something special. The horn is very easy to play with a warm and clear sound. After warming up and startin...
by TheSheriff
Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler model 4, first impressions
Replies: 19
Views: 909

Re: Lawler model 4, first impressions

Is Roy using different bell flares for this horn than the .500 bores? Or is it just the slide that is bigger? .. The flares are interchangeable across the line. The 525 slide is a bit wider but the tenon is the same so you can mix and match but probably with disappointing results. They play best wh...
by TheSheriff
Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Has anyone else tried a model 4 yet? I’m receiving one at the end of the month and am really curious and excited. Happy holidays to all, John .. Yes, I ordered one, got it, played it, and immediately realized it is too big for me so I sent it back. Great horn with all of the Lawler characteristics,...
by TheSheriff
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex small bore?
Replies: 7
Views: 500

Re: Wessex small bore?

Dear all, just out of curiosity - not (yet) really interested in buying it: Regarding their small bore Wessex says "As part of the 'Hoehler Premier' Range this trombone is closely based on a legendary small bore trombone of the past." (https://eu.wessex-tubas.com/collections/trombone-and-sackbut/pr...
by TheSheriff
Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hi all, New to the forum, but wanted to give you a thank you for all of these posts about Lawler trombones. I've been wanting a new jazz horn for a while now, and after my friend reminded me about Lawlers, I found this thread and a couple of others. It was obvious from the threads that nearly every...
by TheSheriff
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Does it matter what horn you play?
Replies: 57
Views: 3523

Re: Does it matter what horn you play?

.. ... I have one I prefer over all the others. .. And that trombone would be ...? :idk: .. I should be a bit more clear on this. I am definitely splitting hairs here because all of my horns are great. But my prototype Kanstul 1606 is the horn that is my 1st choice....most of the time. See what I m...
by TheSheriff
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Does it matter what horn you play?
Replies: 57
Views: 3523

Re: Does it matter what horn you play?

harrisonreed wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:17 am
If the feel is different, the way you play it will be different.
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Very true. The various horns I have steer me in different directions musically. All good, just different and ultimately I have one I prefer over all the others.
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by TheSheriff
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Well I took my bell flares out for a spin on a 3-horn section gig. With my horn, I had originally purchased a 7.5" .022 Yellow Brass bell. I had supplemented it with an 8" .025 Red Brass bell because I felt that I wasn't getting a 'round' enough sound. The heavier red bell was very warm and round, ...
by TheSheriff
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band
Replies: 42
Views: 2203

Re: Looking for a new straight trombone to play with community band

Managed to find a few horns to try. Got my hands on a beat-up high school Conn Connquest that played nicely even after several years in storage - but it just didn’t excite me despite that so it’s been returned. Borrowed a King 3B with F attachment - an hour and a half or so of band practice just ab...
by TheSheriff
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:28 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Ballroom Bells: advantages/disadvantages?
Replies: 15
Views: 1132

Re: Ballroom Bells: advantages/disadvantages?

I’ve read that a ballroom (setback) bell gives better acoustic feedback for the player and makes mute changes easier, so I’m wondering why most modern trombones have their bells set farther forward. Any thoughts? John .. I do not know why most horns are bell forward, I just know that I prefer a set...
by TheSheriff
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

You're right; I meant .022. I'm pleased for the correction-- I honestly didn't know a lighter one existed! I got a .022 Bronze 8" flare. I can't really describe how it plays compared to my others in few words-- it's "harder", but still "darker", if that makes sense. I'm very excited to try it on gi...
by TheSheriff
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy
Replies: 8
Views: 663

Re: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy

I remember watching a live concert of a European big band on YouTube, and the trombonist had some sort of valve right after the mouthpiece that didn't change the pitch but still opened and closed which let him emulate the precise, notched slurs of a valve instrument. Not quite the same use as your ...
by TheSheriff
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hey everyone, I've been gigging on my Lawler 3 solely for 9 months now. I have only brought my Williams 4 out once since, and promptly put it back away. The Lawler is just too easy to play for me to use anything else. I have a lightweight 7.5" yellow flare and a heavyweight 8" red flare. I want one...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hey everyone, I've been gigging on my Lawler 3 solely for 9 months now. I have only brought my Williams 4 out once since, and promptly put it back away. The Lawler is just too easy to play for me to use anything else. I have a lightweight 7.5" yellow flare and a heavyweight 8" red flare. I want one...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

... Yesterday I ordered a model 4/SB...(Set Back) like his model 2. I Configured it to be very light. A .020 yellow stem, connecting ferrules are thinwall, main tuning slide cross brace is solid for best balance, lower cross brace is hollow, his trademark branch guard on the tuning slide bow, nicke...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

... Yesterday I ordered a model 4/SB...(Set Back) like his model 2. I Configured it to be very light. A .020 yellow stem, connecting ferrules are thinwall, main tuning slide cross brace is solid for best balance, lower cross brace is hollow, his trademark branch guard on the tuning slide bow, nickel...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Conn used a "set back" bell on the various Ballroom models. It was intended to make mute changes easier. I've found it doesn't help plunger;I balance the rim on my left wrist and use my left hand to work the plunger. Bell position really doesn't make any difference. I'm comparing a Conn 40H with a ...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

How is it switching horns from the set back bell to the more common bell length? Because I’ll still use my Rath R3F, I’m wondering if having a Lawler with the set back bell would be confusing in the visual relationship between the slide position the bell. Are there any other advantages to the set b...
by TheSheriff
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:07 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

TromboneMonkey wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:39 am
TromboneMonkey wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:35 am

I have a lightweight 7.5" yellow flare and a heavyweight 8" red flare. I want one in between.
Update: I talked to Roy. He's sending me an 8" lightweight bronze flare. I'm very excited to try it.
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His lightest bronze is a mid-weight at .022.

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by TheSheriff
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hello Lawler players, I’m wondering how the horn feels in the left hand. That may seem like a silly question but recently I’ve been playing my Rath R3 with the goose neck and find my hand and arm getting tired and sore. I have an R10 but have become tired of the sound and also that certain notes, l...
by TheSheriff
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

johntarr wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:37 pm
Now I’m wondering about the dual bore slide vs single bore for the model 3. Any thoughts or opinions? Thanks in advance, John
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I have both a 500 and 500/508 dual bore. I prefer the 500/508 dual bore. I like a more open blow. Some of my fellow trombonists prefer it with the 500.

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by TheSheriff
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hey John, Roy prefers the sound of an all yellow brass setup, with different flares (perhaps a red brass for solo work, or a bronze flare for more classical leaning work, or whatever suits you!) Many people have messed with this setup though. I really like the nickel slide with the red brass bell, ...
by TheSheriff
Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Hey John, Roy prefers the sound of an all yellow brass setup, with different flares (perhaps a red brass for solo work, or a bronze flare for more classical leaning work, or whatever suits you!) Many people have messed with this setup though. I really like the nickel slide with the red brass bell, ...
by TheSheriff
Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Slide width for small bore bones
Replies: 41
Views: 2252

Re: Slide width for small bore bones

Just a quick update , as of today I have cancelled my order with BAC as they just kept jerking me about. Best American Craftsmen??? If that's the best there is, god help us......... f*****g useless !!!!! BellEnd BellEnd ====== Hardly. There's plenty of great American craftsmen in just about any fie...
by TheSheriff
Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

bbalika wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:17 pm
Do Lawlers fit well in protec and skb cases?
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Yes. Leave the flare attached and it'll fit in any standard case.

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by TheSheriff
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Williams "L" circa 1935
Replies: 4
Views: 628

Re: FS: Williams "L" circa 1935

Bloo wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:03 am
Have any pics?
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No pics. Considering it was made in 1935 it looks very good, and it is a PLAYER. A sound like no other.

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by TheSheriff
Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:51 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Williams "L" circa 1935
Replies: 4
Views: 628

Re: FS: Williams "L" circa 1935

Doug Elliott wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:34 pm
Is that the one I tried at your place?
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Yes.

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by TheSheriff
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Williams "L" circa 1935
Replies: 4
Views: 628

FS: Williams "L" circa 1935

----- For sale is my Williams "L" model which is roughly .520-.522 in bore size. It is a player. The original slide is nickel with a brass crook. The bell section is in very good shape with the normal laquer wear you'd expect. I also have a .525 bore slide that was made for me by my repairman from G...
by TheSheriff
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

I’m the Californian with the Model 4. I chose the following: .022 Red Brass stem / R2 8” flare, round bead / Z2 8” flare, round bead (raw) / Yellow Brass slide / #10 lead pipe (removable). I’m using a Griego 5 mouthpiece (Deco / Silver). I’m still learning the horn and will report back in a few wee...
by TheSheriff
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:17 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

HI All, Sorry to resurrect an old thread...MrSheriff, I too just got my Lawler model 3 fern Ken Hinson at Schmitt music at the ITF at Ball Stat univ. Ken is a great guy. FYI I got a yellow brass bell stem with the 8" yellow .025 flare and the 7 1/2" ,025 red brass flare. I bought/fell in love with ...
by TheSheriff
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Have the "Big Boys" started hitting the market yet? Just curious. Currently playing a .525 horn and am liking it. Very curious how the Lawlers are being received if they are being sold yet. Thanks. ==== Not yet. ------ ------ Ok, there is one out there, in California, and another going to Switzerla...
by TheSheriff
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

Davidus1 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:06 pm
Have the "Big Boys" started hitting the market yet? Just curious. Currently playing a .525 horn and am liking it. Very curious how the Lawlers are being received if they are being sold yet. Thanks.
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Not yet.

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by TheSheriff
Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 171
Views: 20171

Re: Lawler trombones

I just received my Lawler Model 1 trombone in Roy’s recommended set up: .500 bore, yellow brass stem, slide, and 8” .22 yellow bell, and a 7.5” rose brass bell. In a word, delightful. The trombone has a wonderfully rich and full sound. I had been playing a Rath R10, yellow brass with nickel silver ...
by TheSheriff
Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Conn 3b
Replies: 11
Views: 906

Re: Conn 3b

Tbarh wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:07 pm
I would say closer to a 2G... Narrower rim and shallower Cup than a 1 1/2G...i have owned 2...
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I had Karl Hammond measure mine and he said it was actually a tad larger (overall volume) than a 1 1/2 G.

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by TheSheriff
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Conn 3b
Replies: 11
Views: 906

Re: Conn 3b

I was recently playing on a vintage mp labeled conn 3b. Something interesting I notices was that the walls of the shank were extremely thick so it didn't sit in the receiver quite right. Can someone tell me about this mp? ----- Is the piece labeled Connstellation? If it is then it is closer to a 1 ...
by TheSheriff
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath R10 vs Lawler
Replies: 32
Views: 3630

Re: Rath R10 vs Lawler

That will have to do. I was intending to bring a pristine 1947 Martin committee for him to see, considering it was what as I understand was the beginning basis for his current designs!! OH Well. By the way this trombone is a Killer horn. Kevin ===== Roy has a 40's Committee too as well as one that ...
by TheSheriff
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath R10 vs Lawler
Replies: 32
Views: 3630

Re: Rath R10 vs Lawler

Mahlermusic, You should have Glenn Dodson(Phil. Phil Principal trombonist for many years) play Dixieland jazz on his Bach 6!!!! Sherrif - Will Roy be at the ITF this year ay Ball st. Univ>? ===== Roy tells me that he will not be there but Schmitt music will be, and they'll have some Lawler trombone...
by TheSheriff
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath R10 vs Lawler
Replies: 32
Views: 3630

Re: Rath R10 vs Lawler

Mahlermusic, You should have Glenn Dodson(Phil. Phil Principal trombonist for many years) play Dixieland jazz on his Bach 6!!!! Sherrif - Will Roy be at the ITF this year ay Ball st. Univ>? ===== I don't know if Roy will be there. I could ask him, but knowing him like I do I get the feeling he's no...
by TheSheriff
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: More pieces
Replies: 0
Views: 308

FS: More pieces

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2- 12C Mt Vernon Bach, plating loss and the end of the shank needs rounding (easy for a tech to do).
$45.00 each.
15C Mt Vernon Bach, plating loss. $45.00
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Giardinelli-New York 5D. $50.00
King 29 Large Shank. $45.00

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by TheSheriff
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: FS: ERGOBONE
Replies: 1
Views: 350

Re: FS: ERGOBONE

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$100.00

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by TheSheriff
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: FS: ERGOBONE
Replies: 1
Views: 350

FS: ERGOBONE

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I have a gently used ERGOBONE for sale.....$120.00

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by TheSheriff
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: So, what do you do?
Replies: 10
Views: 954

Re: So, what do you do?

This summer I have to perform Chicago's "Just You and Me" multiple times for a reoccurring gig. Yeah, I know. It's not a hard piece. The issue is that I played this in HS and later to make beer money in university, and later it was me and my bride's wedding song. For some stupid reason I am emotion...
by TheSheriff
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: So, what do you do?
Replies: 10
Views: 954

Re: So, what do you do?

For me it's Eva Cassidy's version of Over the Rainbow - it's pretty unique. I used to work with Eva and I'm on some of her recordings. She died at age 30.... ===== Me too, Doug. Eva's Over the Rainbow kills me every time I hear it, especially the live at Blues Alley version. Man, what a huge talent...

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