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by Arrowhead
Sat May 25, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Bill Watrous Interview by Monk Rowe - 3/26/1999 - Clinton, NY
Replies: 1
Views: 169

Re: Bill Watrous Interview by Monk Rowe - 3/26/1999 - Clinton, NY

I've only recently come across the interviews by Monk Rowe. He's a skilled interviewer and the best I've come across.
by Arrowhead
Sat May 25, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Fluted slides repairable?
Replies: 0
Views: 75

Fluted slides repairable?

I have an Olds Recording that has a nick on the inner slide- just enough to cause a bit of scraping a noise as I play, to the point where it's bugging me and I don't want to play it. is something like this repairable?
by Arrowhead
Sat May 18, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Blowout Sale!
Replies: 11
Views: 692

Re: Blowout Sale!

Getzen small bore has sold
Getzen large bore has a pending sale.
by Arrowhead
Fri May 17, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Blowout Sale!
Replies: 11
Views: 692

Blowout Sale!

Getzen 3047 AFR $600 SOLD Getzen 3508R $550 SOLD Olds P16 $600 SOLD Olds Recording F. att. (later Fullerton) $500 SOLD Olds Super L.A. $450 https://photos.app.goo.gl/JfWahr3f4qj1QZbf9 Olds Super L.A. $450 https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZitHoq4R1DVG8EdM8 Olds Studio (Fullerton) $450 https://photos.app.goo...
by Arrowhead
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olds Super L.A.- removable sleeves?
Replies: 1
Views: 203

Olds Super L.A.- removable sleeves?

I have a nice playing L.A. era Super. It's a tank. Has the bronze bell and weighs a lot. I'm wondering though, does the Super have removable sleeves like that of a Conn?
by Arrowhead
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Conn 24H Silver-plated, Gold wash bell
Replies: 0
Views: 171

FS: Conn 24H Silver-plated, Gold wash bell

IMG-0938.JPG Made around 1940. Had a recent trip to the Slide Dr. Tubes are in great shape! I don't see any plating wear on the inners. Comes in original case! Silver-plated with gold wash bell, and older style counterweight. $500 + shipping. Having a really hard time posting photos. If you have an...
by Arrowhead
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Memorizing Techniques
Replies: 11
Views: 1166

Re: Memorizing Techniques

I use technique I like to call a "law of leverage," such as in basic mechanics. If you can memorize a 2 bar phrase, you can memorize an entire tune, through "chaining." You play a 2 bar phrase in a few keys (maybe 1/2 step, then 1/2 step down, or whole step up or down), then you try that with the fi...
by Arrowhead
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Ambassador opinions
Replies: 57
Views: 2669

Re: Olds Ambassador opinions

I was looking at Olds as I've been looking into getting a small bore f attachment bone on a student budget for jazz and pep band due to confined spaces. That's actually been harder than I expected. Olds Recording w/F att. (Fullerton 70's era). You should be able to get one of these for under $500, ...
by Arrowhead
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Ambassador opinions
Replies: 57
Views: 2669

Re: Olds Ambassador opinions

TBoneHalfNote wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:08 am

Perhaps Jazz is less demanding in terms of clarity of the tone so that any horn could work in that setting. I also suspect that the reviewer simply meant the small bore size of Ambassador.
I think that's a common misconception. Why would Jazz be less demanding in terms of clarity of tone?
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doodle Tonguing Routine
Replies: 4
Views: 582

Re: Doodle Tonguing Routine

The McChesney book has 7 chapters. So you could play a few pages from each chapter everyday. Next, you could try what he does, where you write out a doodle to a tune. Try something like Saints Go Marching In or St. Thomas. You don't have to limit doodle tonguing to modern Jazz or just standards. You...
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?
Replies: 47
Views: 6028

Re: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?

Carl Fontana!
Amazing doodle tongue ability, and he could slip into playing traditional jazz without changing his style.
solo at 2:00
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Ambassador opinions
Replies: 57
Views: 2669

Re: Olds Ambassador opinions

If you see one that interests you online, post a link so that folks can give you feedback about the horn
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 500 vs 508 bore
Replies: 26
Views: 2604

Re: 500 vs 508 bore

When you say "3B" which version of the 3B are we talking about? Some of them are great, and some of them play dead.
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 500 vs 508 bore
Replies: 26
Views: 2604

Re: 500 vs 508 bore

Lol, that means she wasn't really listening! Her mind was somewhere else:)
by Arrowhead
Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 500 vs 508 bore
Replies: 26
Views: 2604

Re: 500 vs 508 bore

Invite someone over your house who IS NOT a musician. Play both horns and ask for their opinion. Then, experiment with different mouthpieces on each horn and ask for their opinion. You may be surprised by what they say.
by Arrowhead
Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Ambassador opinions
Replies: 57
Views: 2669

Re: Olds Ambassador opinions

I had an Olds Ambassador (Fullerton). The slide was surprising light. The horn did play a little stuffy though. I ended up donating it. Not a bad horn though. If you don't want to caught up in the potential "mouthpiece shank problem" that goes along with an Olds, go for an Olds made in the 70's. You...
by Arrowhead
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Suggestions for visit to NOLA?
Replies: 7
Views: 792

Re: Suggestions for visit to NOLA?

Dang, I missed this post, but if you go again here's a few: Doreen Ketchens, who often has Keith "Wolf" Anderson (early Rebirth) on trombone. She has a group that plays on the street near Jackson Square, almost on a daily basis. Palm Court Jazz Cafe-in French Quarter, near the market area. Lucian Ba...
by Arrowhead
Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: high "dle"
Replies: 6
Views: 663

Re: high "dle"

I've heard the same comments made about Fontana (not from me- he's my favorite player). Never saw him live, but some folks talk about the wonderful tone colors that came out of his bell, that's not necessarily captured by recordings, etc. Anyways.... I've been trying to find the earliest example of ...
by Arrowhead
Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: high "dle"
Replies: 6
Views: 663

Re: high "dle"

Doodling across the different ranges- you can use the standard vowels for high range: "e" (dee-dul-lee-dul....) mid range: "ah" "oo" or "i" low range: "oh" or "aw" The tuning shouldn't change on the "dle" syllable, it's just a smoother transition to say "da-dul" as opposed to "da da". The goal is to...
by Arrowhead
Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value Conn 6h
Replies: 11
Views: 1940

Re: Value Conn 6h

...and both these horns didn't need any realignment and were in good condition cosmetically? I think $1,000 is pretty reasonable for a horn that needs nothing. No realignment necessary, and yes, in good condition cosmetically. $1,000 is still high, comparatively for these horns. They just don't pul...
by Arrowhead
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value Conn 6h
Replies: 11
Views: 1940

Re: Value Conn 6h

$1500 is definitely not reasonable. I have two - one I paid around $700, and another was about $1000 from Dillons, but was in excellent condition and came with a valve and slide section. Both mid 50's Elkharts. ...and both these horns didn't need any realignment and were in good condition cosmetica...
by Arrowhead
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h
Replies: 27
Views: 6633

Re: Conn 6h

Its strange for me now that kings 2b/3b were more popular than conns. In my opinion, the golden era of the King trombones was in the 50's/early 60's~ the HN White era. I don't think they really compare to the King trombones that later came out, especially the version thats labeled 2102, 2103, etc.....
by Arrowhead
Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h and 24h
Replies: 9
Views: 1173

Re: Conn 6h and 24h

The '41 Conn 24H you have is more than likely not the Si Zentner version, which is a later "Victor" with the factory LW slide. More than likely it's the older, "Tricky Sam" version, with the standard weight slide. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, the 24H is an "under the radar" horn than you...
by Arrowhead
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jazz trombone advice?
Replies: 18
Views: 2145

Re: Jazz trombone advice?

Thanks for the advice! No, I didn't start on the Xeno, but I don't have my starter horn anymore. It was pretty terrible anyway. I have been looking at the King 2B and 3B and the Conn 6H, but I don't love the Olds sound. Do you have a preference between any of those horns? I couldn't help but notice...
by Arrowhead
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tools for the trade
Replies: 9
Views: 1004

Tools for the trade

I'm looking to eventually repair and modify my own slides, instead of always having them shipped somewhere. Can anyone give me a list of tools to get started? I figure the only way to learn is jump right in and learn by trial and error.
by Arrowhead
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Loud Mouthpieces
Replies: 13
Views: 1723

Re: Loud Mouthpieces

Not sure what happened to their website? I got mine for $150. I'm willing to part with it for $75
by Arrowhead
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Loud Mouthpieces
Replies: 13
Views: 1723

Re: Loud Mouthpieces

My opinion of them is they allow you to have slightly more weight to the sound when you really "push" a note. It's barely noticeable though. One thing I don't like about them is they have a larger than normal shank so they don't always have the best fit for your particular trombone. I don't use them...
by Arrowhead
Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h
Replies: 27
Views: 6633

Re: Conn 6h

Any thoughts about this instrument as a horn for jazz/commercial/ska music? I heard Al Grey played one of those, before moving to King. And whats the difference between regular 6h and the "Victor" one? Which one is better? A lot of the "early" notable jazz trombonists played on the 6H. They are ver...
by Arrowhead
Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles
Replies: 19
Views: 1566

Re: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles

ghmerrill wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:56 pm
My '47 Olds Standard with the distinctive "serpentine" braces I got off Ebay for $125.
I have that exact horn. One of the nicest playing horns I have ever come across. Nice compact rich tone!
I'm not sure what the bore is? Probably .485/.500
by Arrowhead
Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Best Trombone/Music Scores Shops Japan?
Replies: 6
Views: 748

Re: Best Trombone/Music Scores Shops Japan?

The Yamaha shop in Ginza is very good for sheet music, and brass instruments. Ochanomizu is good place to go for musical instruments. They do sell used trombones there. Keep in mind, they do tend to raise the prices because they are considered imports, but nice to go look at nonetheless. It's about ...
by Arrowhead
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: New Orleans Area
Replies: 2
Views: 663

Re: New Orleans Area

I have to be honest- out of all the times I have been to New Orleans, I have never once seen a regular brass instrument store. I think the local musicians must go out of town to get repair work done. I'm not totally sure though. For buying recordings, you can't beat Louisiana Music Factory.
by Arrowhead
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles
Replies: 19
Views: 1566

Re: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles

:pant: Congratulations on your "new" Olds find. The Olds from L.A. are definitely high quality instruments. I'm not sure how you came under the impression that Olds was "junk" :? Anyways... Sounds like you have an Olds Standard with fluted slide and is friction fit (no bell lock) From my understandi...
by Arrowhead
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha 891z-Lawler - King 3B
Replies: 48
Views: 5483

Re: Yamaha 891z-Lawler - King 3B

Which you could do is just use your medium bore horn for both ensembles, then just switch out mouthpieces to suit each ensemble- 5G for concert. 5GS, 6 1/2 AL (etc.) for big band. This is a bit of conundrum though, being that usually smallish bore horns don't really suit the wide tone that is expect...
by Arrowhead
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha 891z-Lawler - King 3B
Replies: 48
Views: 5483

Re: Yamaha 891z-Lawler - King 3B

If you're looking for a horn to cover both 3rd bone in Big Band and 1st in Concert Band, how about the Conn 52H? I tried one a few months ago and was completely surprised. They seemed to cut well for jazz (felt like a 6H) and had the openness of a large bore horn. The slide seemed relatively lightwe...
by Arrowhead
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:45 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Listening and learning by ear, alto
Replies: 6
Views: 1038

Re: Listening and learning by ear, alto

Random thought, if you'e trying to play Alto Trombone by ear, and interested in transcribing jazz, you could transcribe solos by Alto Sax players, instead of just Tenor Bone players. The pitch register should work out quite well :wink:
by Arrowhead
Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Leadpipe for an Olds Special
Replies: 8
Views: 1166

Re: Leadpipe for an Olds Special

That's a great idea, thanks!
by Arrowhead
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:34 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Leadpipe for an Olds Special
Replies: 8
Views: 1166

Re: Leadpipe for an Olds Special

Doug made me a shank for the Olds Recording, which has worked out perfectly. Seems like the Special needs even more of a modified shank....
Sounds like the cork barrel idea might be the way to go
by Arrowhead
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Leadpipe for an Olds Special
Replies: 8
Views: 1166

Re: Leadpipe for an Olds Special

Thanks for all the comments. Really good advice here :good: I do have an Olds 3 mp, but I have avoided in the past because I find the rim to be a little small; however, it is the only mp that seems to fit so maybe I should just "get used to it". For shaving down the shank, who would I contact to hav...
by Arrowhead
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Leadpipe for an Olds Special
Replies: 8
Views: 1166

Leadpipe for an Olds Special

I have an L.A. Olds Special (1949). Nice horn but even mouthpieces with a Morse taper won't go in as far as I'd like. i thought of trying out a new lead pipe to open up the horn a bit more. Does anyone make lead pipes that would fit an old Olds like the Special?
by Arrowhead
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olds Counterweight
Replies: 9
Views: 2179

Re: Olds Counterweight

So I tinkered around with various Olds horns and the result is...
No, the Recording counterweight is too big for the Special.
The Studio counterweight however, will fit the Special.
by Arrowhead
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olds Counterweight
Replies: 9
Views: 2179

Re: Olds Counterweight

I have both horns but don't know off the top of my head unless i dig them out of the basement. I've always felt that the older Special doesn't really need a counterweight, unless you like to use a bucket mute. The mid 70's version came with the oblong counterweight. I believe the braces are the same...
by Arrowhead
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Recording R20
Replies: 12
Views: 1849

Re: Olds Recording R20

I have an R20. SN: 948903 (<-70's?)
Oddly enough, it does not require a special mp shank like every other Recording I have ever tried. So maybe at some point Olds switched over to a more common taper.
Very good horn.

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