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by GBP
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

I was talking to my Aunt Charlotte today. She is 96. She was telling me that she got her bachelors and masters degrees from Case Western University. She applied at Ohio State University for both degrees and was turned down because the university at that time did not take black students. I could here...
by GBP
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

No. The fact that Lassus is mote than 100 years old and there has never been a problem with it until now proves that it had lost most of its racist weight. People are just trying to restore it's racist weight so they can find more things to cancel. Ask Your family if they Feel that way about Wagner...
by GBP
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

BGuttman wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:19 pm
GabeLangfur wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:58 pm
Funny how I never get a response to that challenge.
I am on friendly terms with a Black musician in my orchestra.
There it is, the “I know a black black guy”. Perfect.
by GBP
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

You know, I'm really sick to death of people who have done nothing, criticizing a person who has at least done something , for not doing enough. Spare me the righteous indignation. I’m not critiquing Doug Yeo or anyone else. All I’m saying is that if we are to tackle the question of racism in music...
by GBP
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Thank you and Professor Gazda for your posts. They are courageous.
by GBP
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Where I'm having trouble with this is how you define Lassus Trombone as racist. No doubt the ad from 1915 has some really problematic descriptions. But absent the title and the description, what is racist? Is it the trombone smears? Stravinsky uses some in "Pulcinella". If you had this piece with a...
by GBP
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

The term courageous conversation is used by minority affairs and human rights organizations. It refers to having the courage to point out racism in people and institutions when you see it. It does take courage. Courage to accept being dismissed, being labeled, being told that your cause doesn’t matt...
by GBP
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Timothy42 has talked to at least one black person about it, me. Notice how he has dismissed everything I have said. The imagine what a black person would say part of his post is a gem. I don’t have to imagine, I have live it everyday. I'm really sorry that your experiences and opinions about this a...
by GBP
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Now I come to my point, I'll try again and probably fail again. GBP says etc. I don't think that's true. I don't think there's anything courageous at all about attacking a piece nobody really cares about and 99.9999% of the country have never heard of. We all oppose racism, right? Enough to do some...
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Thank you those of you have spoken up against this piece. This is the type of courageous conversations that must occur if we are ever to overcome the grip institutional racism has on our country.
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:52 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

But burning things smacks of 1930s Germany. I have a dear friend who played in one of the orchestras in Israel in the early 80 and maybe late seventies. I asked him recently if Wagner was performed when he was living there. He told me no, that musicians were banned from playing Wagner and List (I t...
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:12 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

This whole debate is just sad and embarrassing. I teach beginner band to mostly black and brown kids. I like what I do. I think it's important. Recently I've been reckoning with this idea that band and orchestra are filled with lots of inherently racist traditions and cultural practices, and I've b...
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Neo Bri wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:04 pm
Let's be sure to keep this topic ON-topic and germaine to music and trombone. Also, I feel it's important to not attack each other personally. This is not a political board; there are plenty of those out there.
Racism is not political.
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Burger Bob, what you are seeing is institutional racism. Racism is so part of America, that a lot of people can’t see it. Many people who I would consider having racist beliefs swear up and down they do not. I had someone explain to me that there are black people and niggers. Nicest guy you would ev...
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

WilliamLang wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:26 pm
racism does not need to involve malice. i recommend looking into the term systamatic/institutional racism if you have the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism


Thank you for posting this.
by GBP
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 333
Views: 20596

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

You have to interpret it in light of the period when it was written. It was the era of Vaudeville. Not far removed from the Minstrel shows of the mid 19th Century. The original subtitles are certainly not PC by today's standards. In fact, a lot of other music of the period doesn't qualify as PC eit...
by GBP
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Music lessons every day?
Replies: 13
Views: 1448

Re: Music lessons every day?

Students improve faster having band everyday vs the twice a week model. Most students don’t practice correctly and seeing them everyday keeps them on track.
by GBP
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Good bassbone duets to buy
Replies: 13
Views: 1349

Re: Good bassbone duets to buy

There are some Hindemith Duets for Cello or maybe bassoon that are workable on trombone and fun to play.
by GBP
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:23 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Zoom vs Skype
Replies: 10
Views: 1066

Zoom vs Skype

I am planning on continuing my trombone lessons online for the future and am trying to dial in the best setup. One of the big issues is that of sound quality. I have been using Zoom and it definitely has some drawbacks. Also video resolution. Zoom says to stream in high def. has anybody tried both S...
by GBP
Thu May 28, 2020 1:28 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Cheek puffing in lower register
Replies: 16
Views: 1302

Re: Cheek puffing in lower register

And there are a lot of students who absolutely refuse to look in a mirror. I see it all the time in lessons when I put a mirror on the stand and I can see their eyes wandering instead of looking at what I want them to see. I can see this happening especially in young students who are still in that ...
by GBP
Wed May 27, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Repiar
Replies: 7
Views: 1020

Re: Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Repiar

That’s my friend Dan. He has been working on these tuba valves that the job was so daunting, the manufacturer past on it. He really enjoys a challenge.
by GBP
Sat May 09, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Modernize Vintage Horns
Replies: 141
Views: 12110

Re: Modernize Vintage Horns

Maybe a lot of others feel the way I do. I don't want to be bothered with dents, worn inner stockings, worn or shot valves, worn lacquer, misaligned slides, etc - even if a classic vintage horn might have a certain je ne sais quoi. I want to play a new, bright shiny horn. Modernized 'em if you got ...
by GBP
Mon May 04, 2020 1:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What are some horns you will NEVER buy?
Replies: 82
Views: 13553

Re: What are some horns you will NEVER buy?

I'm normally not picky with what I'm playing, but I honestly will never buy a new Bach. ... ... ... ... ... ... I'll consider a Mount Vernon horn, but Bach has certainly slipped in quality over the last decade, and they slipped bad. You know all this – and you are, what, a 17 year-old high school s...
by GBP
Sun May 03, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Range of acceptable sizes for bass
Replies: 34
Views: 3901

Re: Range of acceptable sizes for bass

I dont really want to listen to him so im wondering what to try. I can’t ignore this line... why don’t you want to listen to him? If you don’t want to listen to him, then why are you studying with him? I don’t know how old the op is or anything about him really, but if I came to my teacher and told...
by GBP
Sat May 02, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards vs Getzen custom
Replies: 14
Views: 2205

Re: Edwards vs Getzen custom

All I really cared about is that the horn played well. If I was a Thayer type player, I would still own that Getzen.
by GBP
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:34 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: T396 mouthpiece preference
Replies: 24
Views: 2458

Re: T396 mouthpiece preference

I have a 502 bass. When I switched mouthpieces, I removed the harmonic pillars and started over. Ended up with a different setup then with the previous mouthpiece.
by GBP
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards vs Getzen custom
Replies: 14
Views: 2205

Re: Edwards vs Getzen custom

I know we still do our own plating. I am currently furloughed because of the stay at home order in Wisconsin (along with everyone else), but I know that older model Getzen Custom and Edwards horns had brass cork barrels with nickel plating. That is not how they are done anymore, they are a piece of...
by GBP
Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves
Replies: 7
Views: 1361

Re: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves

It can be a difficult adjustment to go from Thayer valves - particularly after 20 years - to rotary valves. I did it after about 12 or 13 years on Thayers, but I was very unsatisfied with certain aspects of the Thayers, specifically the response and lack of pitch center definition around C and B be...
by GBP
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves
Replies: 7
Views: 1361

Re: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves

I have Edwards Bell and slide on the CR-E valves. When I played the Custom, I had a tech modify an Edwards bell to fit on the horn. Edwards and Getzen bells and slides need to be modified to work together. The modifications are pretty simple and inexpensive for a good tech.
by GBP
Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:17 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Modernize Vintage Horns
Replies: 141
Views: 12110

Re: Modernize Vintage Horns

I think above all it is important to know the difference between opinion and fact. We are are all really talking opinion here. Some opinion is more informed/developed than other opinions but it is still opinion. It would be nice to read posts about opinions and questions about those opinions. It is ...
by GBP
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: Zoom Q2n-4K
Replies: 1
Views: 790

Re: Zoom Q2n-4K

I have one. It is pretty basic. I bought it for posting my performances on my YouTube channel. I used last Wednesday for a Zoom lesson. The video is okay, not great. It does have good sound.
by GBP
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Modernize Vintage Horns
Replies: 141
Views: 12110

Re: Modernize Vintage Horns

Far too many fine old trombones get hacked about to try and make a mediocre players life easier. The results are usually depressing. Sorry, but it's true. If an instrument is fifty or more years old, plays very well in it's own terms and is original DON'T MESS WITH IT. Either learn to play it or se...
by GBP
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Bob Reeves CV
Replies: 0
Views: 667

WTB: Bob Reeves CV

Looking for one in good condition.
by GBP
Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:54 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 3904

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

IT WAS A JOKE .....A JOKE.... So anything light hearted no longer has a place here... shame. Chris Probably more of a stress induced response to your joke than anything else. I am currently teaching beginning band without a way to actually hear or see them. I am responding to thing in ways I would ...
by GBP
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Practice Room Size
Replies: 18
Views: 1690

Re: Practice Room Size

I live in a condo and soundproofed a room using a material called QuietRock. It is special drywall that absorbs sound. I can play at normal volumes even in the middle of the night without complaint. I also used mass loaded vinyl and a suspended ceiling with rock wool pumped into the space. I didn’t ...
by GBP
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:59 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Motivation for practice
Replies: 16
Views: 1791

Re: Motivation for practice

We always practice alone. Groups rehearse. I look at practicing as a job. Some days it’s fun others days not so much, but you do it either way. About twenty years ago, I started taking lessons every week. Having that deadline really helped me focus and stay consistent.
by GBP
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Killer pedal tonex
Replies: 30
Views: 2814

Re: Killer pedal tonex

Last year I had a chance to ask Bill Holman about his older three trombone charts. Did he have to write in a fourth part to be played by the four trombone band? He hung his head and shook it a bit, "Yeah, they made me, I had too. I didn't want to because it muddies everything. But everyone's got on...
by GBP
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:53 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Killer pedal tonex
Replies: 30
Views: 2814

Re: Killer pedal tonex

The Miraculous Mandrin is a situation where as a bass trombonist, you might near that line of ‘Too Much’. It is what the music calls for. It is good to have it in one’s tool belt. I think though, it is like cheese cake from a 5 star NYC restaurant; A little goes a long way and it never hurts to skip...
by GBP
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Killer pedal tonex
Replies: 30
Views: 2814

Re: Killer pedal tonex

Since lately, I have been playing more big band than orchestra work, I have been doing a lot of listening to various big bands. What I have found is there are a lot of different approaches to the bass chair. For example, Louie Bellson’s album, the London Gigs, the bass trombonist is throwing heat. C...
by GBP
Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Killer pedal tonex
Replies: 30
Views: 2814

Re: Killer pedal tonex

Wow. It was almost a joke... But lots of great musicians do exactly this.... Suddenly their amazing embouchure will change. The jaw drops and goes forward. The horn starts to angle up. The downstream air suddenly changes to upstream because of this. And great sounding, loud pedal tones come out. :a...
by GBP
Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards Trombone pillars
Replies: 23
Views: 2385

Re: Edwards Trombone pillars

Both my Edwards basses have harmonic pillars. The best thing to do is find a person with a good ear listen to you play and just experiment
by GBP
Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:22 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves
Replies: 7
Views: 1361

Re: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves

I have a CR-E inline bass. The horn plays very well. It does not sound/play like a horn with Thayer valves. If you like how you sound with Thayer valves, I wouldn’t buy the CR-E valves. I bought mine because my backup horn was a Getzen Custom while my main horn was a Greenhoe. Switching between the ...
by GBP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Hello
Replies: 7
Views: 1422

Re: Hello

I'm a bass trombonist and live in the Seattle area. I double on large bore tenor trombone and tuba. I'm closer to being an old fart than a beginner. One of my many faults is that I used to own an awesome Rath Contrabass trombone but sold it to buy my son a professional model oboe :weep: :weep: :wee...
by GBP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Are we over-thinking things?
Replies: 16
Views: 2166

Re: Are we over-thinking things?

All of that depends on how much you know about chops and how much you know about mouthpieces It's entirely possible to be extremely efficient in both practice and mouthpiece choices. Endless experimentation can be a big time waster. All that means is that your choice of equipment to try becomes mor...
by GBP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:46 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Marcus Bonna Carbon Fiber Cases
Replies: 3
Views: 827

Re: Marcus Bonna Carbon Fiber Cases

I have bass cases. Not sure if they would fit on a plane. Lightweight case probably would not survive too many gate checks.
by GBP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Marcus Bonna Carbon Fiber Cases
Replies: 3
Views: 827

Re: Marcus Bonna Carbon Fiber Cases

I have two Edwards carbon cases and have been very happy. The lightweight case is really nice. The standard one has more durability built into is
by GBP
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Are we over-thinking things?
Replies: 16
Views: 2166

Re: Are we over-thinking things?

You're from Seattle, I might know you. How's it going? Who do you play with? In my view it is not and either or situation. A player needs to put in time. Focused practice isn’t going to help a player whose not putting in enough time to make progress. Since you’re in Seattle you probably know at lea...
by GBP
Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:33 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Are we over-thinking things?
Replies: 16
Views: 2166

Re: Are we over-thinking things?

I think it is important to play equipment that allows a person to sound and play the way they need to. I have a friend who plays bass trombone that has a naturally bright tone. He picks equipment that will help him darken his sound. I have the opposite tendency. I sound terrible on his horn.
by GBP
Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:22 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Are we over-thinking things?
Replies: 16
Views: 2166

Re: Are we over-thinking things?

When it comes to practice, I don't think it can be stressed enough that it doesn't matter how much you practice it matters more HOW you practice. 20 minutes of intentional practice is way better than a week worth of unfocused practicing. I disagree. Neither one is particularly helpful. However, If ...
by GBP
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS-Rath R9 Bass Bell Section Only!
Replies: 14
Views: 2077

Re: FS-Rath R9 Bass trombone

That is a beautiful looking instrument

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