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by BaritoneJack
Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Why No Silver Plate?
Replies: 44
Views: 1552

Re: Why No Silver Plate?

Sorry, Jack. You are sounding like my mother-in-law as she was beginning to settle into senility. She insisted that the world conform to what she wanted instead of being what it was. Well, Bruce, if your aim was to be downright offensive, you've succeeded. I asked what I thought - and still think -...
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Why No Silver Plate?
Replies: 44
Views: 1552

Re: Why No Silver Plate?

It's even rarer to find a French horn in silver plate. Nickel silver and yellow brass are the standards, with the occasional exotic material being used for bell flares. Yes, but according to what I've been told, french horns are only used in orchestral work - not in brass bands, so I can see that a...
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Why No Silver Plate?
Replies: 44
Views: 1552

Re: Why No Silver Plate?

greenbean wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:18 pm
Let's face it: Silver trombones look goofy! :biggrin:
Why? Why does another instrument - such as a cornet or euphonium - look fine in silver plate, but a silver plated trombone look 'goofy'? Or are you just trying to wind me up?
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Why No Silver Plate?
Replies: 44
Views: 1552

Re: Why No Silver Plate?

You can get a trombone in silver plate if you want. Yes, I know you can get them in silver plate; but what puzzles me is looking at British brass bands - typically, every instrument in the line-up is silver, except for trombones, which are almost invariably lacquered brass. And I can't think of any...
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Why No Silver Plate?
Replies: 44
Views: 1552

Why No Silver Plate?

Question; is there a reason why most trombones are not silver plated? And why, in fact, many models aren't even offered with the option of silver plate? I'm puzzled by this, as every other brass instruument, from piccolo trumpet to Bb bass, can be had in silver plate - so why are trombones the excep...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Is this repairable?
Replies: 8
Views: 427

Re: Is this repairable?

Jgittleson wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:07 pm
Its very superficial, i scotchbrited it off already.
Then any competent repairman will have no trouble sorting out the other damage for you! :good:
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: I need help to stop coasting!
Replies: 20
Views: 1470

Re: I need help to stop coasting!

@Kingfan - you say you're now retired, so even if you took early retirement, you've still reached the age where muscle tone tends to fade, and be much harder to get back than when you were in your teens and 20s. If that sounds like 'the voice of experience', it is; I didn't start playing any brass i...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Shires wooden thumb rest
Replies: 5
Views: 784

Re: Shires wooden thumb rest

Re. the post from 2bobone; the way I always stuck rubber hand grips onto my bikes was to use a little water with ordinary hand soap to lubricate the inside of the grip, then twist it on. If it still felt a bit loose, I'd pull it off, wipe some of the mix off and try again, and keep doing that until ...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Is this repairable?
Replies: 8
Views: 427

Re: Is this repairable?

Re. the creases and dents; they are definitely fixable. If you look at some of the repair jobs shown on YouTube, pro repairers are shown sorting out damage which looks like the instrument had been kicked down a long flight of stone stairs - yet they get it looking as good as new. What would concern ...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:15 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish - UPDATE

The story so far; the acetone didn't have the slightest effect on the lacquer, so I ordered up some '0000' grade steel wool from Liberon - a specialist firm which supplies people like cabinet makers and french polishers. Slow work, but it does gradually get through the lacquer. Though it obviously l...
by BaritoneJack
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:56 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

I'm not having much success with uploading pictures, but I'll try for another one - taken with my camera, not just my phone - to show the extent of the problem further down the bell. The white gunge on the right is the (useless) paint stripper; the pale green streaks are not out of focus - they star...
by BaritoneJack
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:51 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish - UPDATE

The latest is that I tried my paint stripper, following the instructions to the letter (give it a complete coat, leave for one hour, then another coat, and another hour) - and it didn't so much as raise the tiniest bubble. I then read up on a product called Nitromors - which used to be capable of sh...
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:26 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

Thanks for the warning, Bruce - though I doubt I could buy anything that lethal in a regular hardware store in England; it would probably only be available to trade buyers. I downloaded the Material Safety Data Sheet for the one I have, and there's no Methylene Chloride in it. Re. the hot water; tha...
by BaritoneJack
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:52 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

UPDATE I've tried using various grades of metal polish - none of which had the slightest effect, not even Brasso, which is the toughest one I have. On closer investigation, it turns out that the problem is the same as I had on my Harley; the corrosion (which probably started from minute nicks and pi...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:34 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

Yamaha has a product, simply called "Metal polish". It is very similar to Brasso, but I'm told it's even finer. It doesn't scratch the metal at all - in fact I use it to polish my raw brass inner slide when it's too oxidized. Le Tromboniste - thank you for that suggestion; judging by the way it's w...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

My apologies, Gary - I didn't make myself clear; having watched videos of pro repair techies at work, I can see that though the tools of their trade look almost primitively simple, you need a shedload of skill to use them without doing more harm than good. So if I ever decide to get a dent taken out...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:25 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Different take on a Hand Brace
Replies: 23
Views: 2447

Re: Different take on a Hand Brace

Further to my post, above, I just tried holding my arm and hand in the position shown in Doug Yeo's second photo, and then swivelling my thumb round to the the same side as my cheek - with my right hand gently holding my left wrist. Sure enough, when I moved my thumb round to the same side as my ind...
by BaritoneJack
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:07 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Different take on a Hand Brace
Replies: 23
Views: 2447

Re: Different take on a Hand Brace

I have the opposite problem to Gary - hands like shovels! Funnily enough, most people look at them and say "But they aren't big!" - yet the only gloves I can get to fit are extra large, and when I was working for a shoeing smith many years ago, I had to make my own hammer handles out of ash, because...
by BaritoneJack
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

One thing you could try on the "pits" is a corrosion wadding. We have a brand here in the States called Nevr-Dull. You will probably find something similar in an auto parts store in your area. It's a cotton wad with a chemical that dissolves tarnish. You may find it doesn't do too much damage to th...
by BaritoneJack
Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

There is no need to "polish the brass and keep it that way" unless you require it to be shiny. Raw brass will acquire a patina that many find attractive, and that some feel contributes to a distinctive sound quality. Um - the trouble is, all the instruments in the brass band I play with are shiny; ...
by BaritoneJack
Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 14
Views: 1094

Pitted Lacquer Finish

I've just bought a Bach Selmer tenor trombone, which seems in good nick mechanically; as far as appearance goes, it looks like it's got a severe case of measles, where the lacquer has flaked off, and the brass underneath has slightly corroded. (I've not posted an attachment on here before, but I'll ...
by BaritoneJack
Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?
Replies: 27
Views: 1750

Re: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?

I'm more worried about the lazy kid who thinks that it's too much work to try to sound nice and it's easy to sound like a moose in heat and therefore that's his "sound" and so there! So would I be, Bruce - but, if you read my posts, that's not what I'm suggesting at all; nor, in my opinion, was the...
by BaritoneJack
Thu May 31, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?
Replies: 27
Views: 1750

Re: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?

Bruce - I'm not suggesting for one moment that any learner should be encouraged to "adopt an off-the-wall sound"; far from it. But I see no reason why a learner should not be encouraged, right from the start, to think about the sound they make, and to think about what they want to aim for. And if th...
by BaritoneJack
Thu May 31, 2018 7:52 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs
Replies: 6
Views: 769

Re: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs

What I remembered from engineering classes (and that's several decades back, so it's vague) was the opposite, that the zinc in brass was more likely to be attacked in alkaline environments. Timothy - in the write up on the site you linked to, it says this: "No significant calcium (calcium carbonate...
by BaritoneJack
Thu May 31, 2018 6:54 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?
Replies: 27
Views: 1750

Re: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?

Sullivan’s tone and interpretation are of an older time that valued adherence to the written page (no extended “screeches”), and a tone quality favoring the upper harmonics, which tend to produce a “livelier,” or “brighter” tone. It seems to me that you're suggesting that players of Sullivan's era ...
by BaritoneJack
Wed May 30, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The frustrations of a 'tweener
Replies: 8
Views: 1091

Re: The frustrations of a 'tweener

Wow! Some of the above really brings home just how fortunate we are in England. Where I live, there are about forty bands, ranging from top-level pro to entry-level bands, within about 20 miles!
by BaritoneJack
Wed May 30, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 84
Views: 5973

Re: Burnt

In other news. I think it's time to admit I've burnt out on being a musician. Don't feel obligated to respond or convince me otherwise or anything, I'm just thinking out loud. Kind of wish this really were a bar, I feel like this is something to be discussed over a beer. Yep - been there, done that...
by BaritoneJack
Wed May 30, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?
Replies: 27
Views: 1750

Re: Building a Sound Concept - Is there a "too early"?

Is there a 'too early'? I'm bearing in mind the OP's point - that he was thinking in terms of a personal sound (and not so much a 'good' sound. I'm not a teacher, and - as my username suggests - I play baritone horn, not trombone; this is totally a personal point of view, and I'm throwing it into th...

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