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by Pre59
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: SKB straight tenor case
Replies: 9
Views: 547

Re: SKB straight tenor case

The spot in the SKB is very small and is held closed by the entire lid. There's no chance for it come out while the case is closed. I agree, for the m/p to "escape" from its receptacle, the case would have to be completely bent out of shape, or the clasps opened. http://www.skbcases.com/music/produ...
by Pre59
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Soulo Cup Mute Fit on a Small Bell.
Replies: 0
Views: 28

Soulo Cup Mute Fit on a Small Bell.

The spec on the Soulo site gives the cup width as 7 1/2", but does anyone use one on a horn with 7 1/4" bell like a 2B?
Just hoping that their measurement isn't accurate, but I bet it is.
by Pre59
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Buzzing in low register
Replies: 11
Views: 356

Re: Buzzing in low register

Now, Mr Wilkins and Mr lindberg having a discussion about the pros and cons of mp buzzing would be a video I'd like to see.
by Pre59
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: That George Roberts / Carl Fontana sound
Replies: 13
Views: 662

Re: That George Roberts / Carl Fontana sound

I thought I'd add this beauty to the conversation.



by Pre59
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:44 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Do you take your mouthpiece on holiday?
Replies: 29
Views: 851

Re: Do you take your mouthpiece on holiday?

You're basically assuming that using the trombone as a megaphone for a "good" buzz is better than playing and resonating the entire trombone as one system. No, but I've found that taking care to get a good musicial buzz helps me in many basic ways. I may have passed the point where I'm not getting ...
by Pre59
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:33 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Using Slide Lubricant
Replies: 32
Views: 1242

Re: Using Slide Lubricant

Putting "agitators" in the Yamasnot has worked out very well. It's not drying out (going scratchy) is spreading more evenly, and works well without water, but better with. The chrome coated steel ball bearing are easily obtainable on eBay, in the UK anyway, I'm not sure what the largest size would b...
by Pre59
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:05 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Do you take your mouthpiece on holiday?
Replies: 29
Views: 851

Re: Do you take your mouthpiece on holiday?

.. if CL practiced on the mouthpiece until he did produce a beautiful sound, where would that leave his argument?
by Pre59
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: Media
Topic: ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.
Replies: 10
Views: 429

Re: ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.

....and I noticed that the bass tbn had a nice blend with the two tenors during the solo.
by Pre59
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.
Replies: 10
Views: 429

Re: ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.

Rare to hear a guy with time as good as his. He waits and works with the rhythm section--feel the rhythm section welcome him into the time. Erin Eckert the announcer says? Yes, I found Erin Eckert as a member of the Eastman Trombone Choir 2015, www.esm.rochester.edu/trombone/files/Trombone-Choir-Fa...
by Pre59
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Media
Topic: ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.
Replies: 10
Views: 429

ATW Tbn Soloist with the Army Blues.

Am really enjoying the whole approach of this soloist playing "Just Friends". Anyone know his name and background, and the horn looks like a 2B of some kind?

by Pre59
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Bill Watrous Interview by Monk Rowe - 3/26/1999 - Clinton, NY
Replies: 0
Views: 87

Bill Watrous Interview by Monk Rowe - 3/26/1999 - Clinton, NY

Another candid interview by Monk Rowe with Bill Watrous, who's voice is like his tone?



There's a good Urbie Green one out there as well.
by Pre59
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Using Slide Lubricant
Replies: 32
Views: 1242

Re: Using Slide Lubricant

BGuttman wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:10 pm
ghmerrill wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:29 pm
Titanium fishing sinkers? Or shot?
Ytterbium beads. Better yet, Unobtanium. :evil:
Or even Trombonium? Not as heavy or toxic as lead, but particularly slippery..
by Pre59
Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Using Slide Lubricant
Replies: 32
Views: 1242

Re: Using Slide Lubricant

I notice with Yamasnot that when it fails after several days, it gathers near the stockings in dry form. Thinking that this was because too much lube was ending up on the inner, I changed my routing to put the lube on the outer with a dry inner. Having run out of SOM Rapid comfort I had to dig out ...
by Pre59
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Using Slide Lubricant
Replies: 32
Views: 1242

Re: Using Slide Lubricant

I notice with Yamasnot that when it fails after several days, it gathers near the stockings in dry form. Thinking that this was because too much lube was ending up on the inner, I changed my routing to put the lube on the outer with a dry inner. Having run out of SOM Rapid comfort I had to dig out ...
by Pre59
Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who else Drilled their 11C?
Replies: 12
Views: 791

Re: Who else Drilled their 11C?

It used to be common in my neck of the woods in the 80's when 11C's could be so obviously different from one another. We used to get the backbore reamed and the shoulder smoothed a little. There was one tech in particular who was very good at this fix, and new exactly when to stop. This was on a 2B,...
by Pre59
Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...
Replies: 12
Views: 892

Re: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...

First thing to note is Mr. S “owns” those notes walking in. YMMV. I don't understand "walking in"? Walking into the store, Dave can play all of that comfortably. That makes a big difference. Thanks for the clarification, I thought that might be the case. I found that if there's a good Bb in 3rd tha...
by Pre59
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...
Replies: 12
Views: 892

Re: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...

BrassedOn wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:00 pm


First thing to note is Mr. S “owns” those notes walking in. YMMV.
I don't understand "walking in"?
by Pre59
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...
Replies: 12
Views: 892

Re: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...

Basbasun wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:33 am
"I don't know if anyone here uses a b4th for the high E? Works for me, well, better than 2nd anyway."
I never tried that. I use 3,5 (ultra flatt 3 or ultra Sharp 4)
My bad, it occurred to that I'd incorrectly put b4 instead of b3 when I was driving to the beach..
by Pre59
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...
Replies: 12
Views: 892

Re: When Dave Steinmeyer Picks Up A New Horn...

"Now most trombones you can play the high E-flat in ultra sharp second position, it'll lock in there. The high E is the worst note on the trombone. That high E is murder but on the Martins, they seem to be locked in just like they were in the lower octave." I don't know if anyone here uses a b4th fo...
by Pre59
Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Do/did you have a day job outside of music?
Replies: 28
Views: 1265

Re: Do/did you have a day job outside of music?

Apart from an UK army staff band contract (6 years) in my youth, and two short term part-time jobs, I've been a full time musician. (50+years.) But to do this I've had to jump through myriad hoops which includes having strong doubles; B,Gtr, D/Bass, sound recording and a little arranging, also backg...
by Pre59
Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Easier to blow
Replies: 5
Views: 268

Re: Easier to blow

All of that leads to a horn that is 'harder' to get air through or perhaps easier depending on your point of view and what you are used to. This nails it IMO. It is possible to use a larger m/p on a smaller horn, maybe not with an "orchestral" profile, but one chosen for the specific purpose. In my...
by Pre59
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Does the starting point of your warm up matter?
Replies: 19
Views: 1068

Re: Does the starting point of your warm up matter?

SaigonSlide wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:19 am
Kind of like why certain keys are just easier to play in...doesn't make any sense why B major feels awkward compared to Bb major.
Maybe because familiarity breeds content? :wink:
by Pre59
Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:50 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Bass Trombone Upper Register
Replies: 29
Views: 858

Re: Bass Trombone Upper Register

Because the high register on the trombone (usually) doesn't have the sizzle that other instruments can have relative to their middle register, it won't seem as exciting as when a trumpeter plays high. In short, high range overuse on the trombone will just be perceived as just a trick, unless it's us...
by Pre59
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: BOLERO!
Replies: 3
Views: 350

Re: BOLERO!

He makes a great sound, and integrates the gliss nicely into the phrase. Adjusts intonation on the held F, and then keeps the volume and intonation consistent as the melody moves downward. Great job, at any age.
by Pre59
Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Media
Topic: BOLERO!
Replies: 3
Views: 350

BOLERO!

This turned up in my YouTube feed, and played in a very musical manner for such a young person.

by Pre59
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mt Vernon mouthpieces - hate and love
Replies: 29
Views: 1635

Re: Mt Vernon mouthpieces - hate and love

This is howling at the moon, I know, I'm guilty of it.. If the instrument at the present time is a lot different from the one that first inspired the student years ago, there's bound to be some dissatisfaction that may never quite be resolved. That is, until a skill or style from a former time, or o...
by Pre59
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: "Alternate" positions?
Replies: 38
Views: 1610

Re: "Alternate" positions?

The Reneau statement is could be shortened to, "Best trombone sound is in close-in positions." There's a certain warm diffuse sound that I sometimes like to to use that comes off longer positions. And re tuning, the D in 1st can often be a little flat, so is it any harder to play it in tune in 4th ...
by Pre59
Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: "Alternate" positions?
Replies: 38
Views: 1610

Re: "Alternate" positions?

I had a quick listen to Folke Rabe’s Basta, and yes, I believe that I heard some Bb's in 7th, but these are in the "quantum" lower slide areas where with a strong enough embouchure, the normal harmonic series breaks down..
by Pre59
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: "Alternate" positions?
Replies: 38
Views: 1610

Re: "Alternate" positions?

Kbiggs wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:36 am


In modern music where the composer specifies high Bb in 7th position,

High Bb in 7th position? That would sound modern!
by Pre59
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

I woke this morning realising that the A section of Nancy (in the Bill W Video) has the same chord sequence* as Body and Soul.

I thought I'd share that.. :)


*Ok, apart from 2 chords out 4 in the Ist time bar.
by Pre59
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:20 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

Going back to the topic of "Keep the corners tight or nah??". Since it appeared I've been experimenting with consciously using corners, and while it wasn't too uncomfortable after a while I did think that it changed my tonguing. I found that doodle tonguing was better, (a big surprise) but my single...
by Pre59
Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

Bill W was playing one way and they were playing another..
by Pre59
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:29 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

...................... on page 10 he realizes that the corners are not the end of the lips, and he does use firmness in the area below the lower lip. I do that, it's like the air/enegy focuses down to a single point, but the rest of the body is relaxed. Here's Bill Watrous showing us about muscle f...
by Pre59
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

timothy42b wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:14 am

...................... on page 10 he realizes that the corners are not the end of the lips, and he does use firmness in the area below the lower lip.
I do that, it's like the air/enegy focuses down to a single point, but the rest of the body is relaxed.
by Pre59
Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

I'm sure for the old pros, that's all they thought of when they play - its simple, just do it. But someone learning doesn't have the memory of what it feels like to do that, and it's hard to communicate. The old pros were young once, and faced similar problems as beginners do now. But now we have t...
by Pre59
Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

Plus, when you have been playing with firm corners for years, you don't even think about them. When it's a new thing for someone, they have to concentrate on doing it. This is part of the reason I hate hearing advice from old timers who just don't think about what they do. I try to put the focus as...
by Pre59
Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keep the corners tight or nah??
Replies: 40
Views: 1599

Re: Keep the corners tight or nah??

I never think about them, and the idea seems like a distraction to me, for no tangible gain.
by Pre59
Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H
Replies: 7
Views: 527

Re: Conn 50H

A King 4B works well in the OP's context.

I thought I'd trawl the net and and find a big band (Ted Heath) that at the time used a Bb/F on 4th tenor and I found this. Some nice tbn "sotto voce'" chords behind the vigorous trumpet soloists.

by Pre59
Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: "Alternate" positions?
Replies: 38
Views: 1610

Re: "Alternate" positions?

Gary, have attached a note/slide chart. Suggest that that you print it out and practice with it.. Done, thanks. Hope you find it useful. I made this chart to help find patterns and scales for improvising, and I've laminated a copy and use a marker to save interesting phrases and intervals. For a lo...
by Pre59
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:30 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Getting used to positions quickly
Replies: 29
Views: 840

Re: Getting used to positions quickly

To OP, I've attached a note/position chart, I suggest that that you print it out and give it some "eye time".
by Pre59
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: "Alternate" positions?
Replies: 38
Views: 1610

Re: "Alternate" positions?

Gary, have attached a note/slide chart. Suggest that that you print it out and practice with it..
by Pre59
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hissy/fuzzy sound
Replies: 22
Views: 2617

Re: Hissy/fuzzy sound

You can also modify a Bach 11C throat, and the result is fabulous! That is what Watrous played on for most of his career. It's not only the size of the throat, (the Marc pieces you named all have the same size throat as the Watrous modification), but the shape of the taper in the throat. All the pi...
by Pre59
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:38 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: SKB straight tenor case
Replies: 9
Views: 547

Re: SKB straight tenor case

I have an SKB 360 which is the narrow plastic model. The compartment lid doesn't quite go down flat when I lay my m/p (DW 9BS)down, but I can't imagine a situation where drilling is going help in any way.
by Pre59
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Can a teeth/jaw structure be incompatible with trombone mouthpiece?
Replies: 69
Views: 3481

Re: Can a teeth/jaw structure be incompatible with trombone mouthpiece?

Redthunder wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:48 am
Please:

GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
mickael57280 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:24 am
I think I will do.
Good news! Don't "prevaricate" about the bush any more..
by Pre59
Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Focus and intonation with double valves in the middle register
Replies: 37
Views: 2413

Re: Focus and intonation with double valves in the middle register

I'm really pleased to see the subject of "alternative" positions being given some attention on this topic, are Trombonists "coming out" on this seldom discussed topic at last? Only a tiny minority of players will make it to that orchestral job, and so for the rest of us being resourceful and useful ...
by Pre59
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 1107

Re: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?

High harmonics obviously increase with volume. It's the job of the orchestral player to control and limit that effect. It's the job of the commercial player to use it to advantage for projection. In a nutshell, that is the basis of the two seemingly conflicting approaches. But in any case, any indi...
by Pre59
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 1107

Re: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?

This piece includes the following,

This is one of the first things a brass player learns: you close your mouth, pull your lips back in a strange smile, and blow.


Smile and press! Really?
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Exercises with practice mute
Replies: 6
Views: 456

Re: Exercises with practice mute

BGuttman wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:22 am
cozzagiorgi wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:11 am
I use a wallace. That works pretty well.
I have one too and think it's great. Seems they are no longer available.
I don't own one, but I know a couple of cases where the cork has swollen and come undone. This has made them hard to repair.
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 2954

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

I practice them and use them almost every time I play in public, in the form of tritone intervals.
Ain't no big deal..
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 2954

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

...if I had an operator reaching for 6th and 7th for cyclic tasks, that is for tasks that need to be repeated too frequently. Ergonomics is all about force, frequency, and posture. Posture stinks for 6th and 7th, so anything to keep the frequency down is directionally correct. Cheers, Andy This tas...

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