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by Pre59
Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: best way to pack for shipping
Replies: 15
Views: 239

Re: best way to pack for shipping

Put one of these in the bell, and cut it to size to restrict movement. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oasis-Ideal-Fl ... B006W8P3EC
by Pre59
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Medieval military trombonist.
Replies: 24
Views: 640

Re: Medieval military trombonist.

Bringing things up to date.

https://youtu.be/oK1EAAp7pok?t=28
by Pre59
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone and Eb tuba
Replies: 13
Views: 843

Re: Bass trombone and Eb tuba

Around '68-'70 I was playing a Boosey and Hawkes 555 on a Eb tuba m/p. Years later I recognised it as a Conn Helleberg copy. It was the best available option the time, and much better than the supplied B+H m/p.

https://www.musicarte.com/usato/8822-tr ... usato.html
by Pre59
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Upper range limit - how much patience do I need?
Replies: 21
Views: 763

Re: Upper range limit - how much patience do I need?

OP, Are you making any change to the lip/mouthpiece angle as you go past high Bb? Try aiming the air higher up the m/p, or slightly change the m/p angle to the same effect. If I don't do that, I can hardly play with any security past a high C, but with that change the higher register opens out. IMO ...
by Pre59
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rudy Muck 2H trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 351

Re: Rudy Muck 2H trombone

http://www.brasshistory.net/MuckTrombone.html http://www.brasshistory.net/MuckMpc.html If you do decide to buy it, I have an early gold plated Ruby Muck m/p "hand made", and it's either a 23 or a 28 model (stamping unclear) that I don't use or need. It's very shallow with a large throat.. http://www...
by Pre59
Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Daily Sight Reading Material and Approach
Replies: 13
Views: 664

Re: Daily Sight Reading Material and Approach

I'm wading through a bass gtr version of the Bach Cello Suites. Because half of each page is taken up with tablature there's not much music to the page, but it's still good material to practice. When I get to grips with it I'll buy a proper version with less page turns.. https://www.musicroom.com/pr...
by Pre59
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: F$#king high G
Replies: 15
Views: 352

Re: F$#king high G

Assuming that your horns have been in good working order and that your mouthpieces are within a fairly "normal" specification range, I'd suggest that you spend a lot more time practicing in the middle register, even to the exclusion of the outer registers, and see if this helps. It helps me, and if...
by Pre59
Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:29 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: F$#king high G
Replies: 15
Views: 352

Re: F$#king high G

Assuming that your horns have been in good working order and that your mouthpieces are within a fairly "normal" specification range, I'd suggest that you spend a lot more time practicing in the middle register, even to the exclusion of the outer registers, and see if this helps. It helps me, and if ...
by Pre59
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:01 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Famous bass trombonists with 1 valve
Replies: 63
Views: 2955

Re: Famous bass trombonists with 1 valve

You'll be sure to like this then. Ok, the reverb is set to 11, but great trombone playing with two bass trombones in the section, and beautiful exposed bass tbn throughout. Now re-released c/w with a Kai Winding quartet jazz album. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Olé This is a more restrained trac...
by Pre59
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: vintage player ID
Replies: 12
Views: 573

Re: vintage player ID

So, did Bruce Willis's dad play the trombone?
by Pre59
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Duff notes on medium bore Bachs
Replies: 19
Views: 938

Re: Duff notes on medium bore Bachs

I had an old VB12 with a heavy brass slide and and a phantom Bb in 3rd. I found that V cup mouthpieces helped to solidify the upper register, until I was able to ditch it...
by Pre59
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Partials after high D
Replies: 10
Views: 633

Re: Partials after high D

On my small bore horns, I prefer the tone of the high D and F in the b2. Also when moving from a high C sharp to a D there's a nice snap when played across the grain. High E sounds better around 3rd as well.
by Pre59
Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Absolutely intonation
Replies: 16
Views: 854

Re: Absolutely intonation

Years ago I played in a professional band with a legendary trombone player over here, unfortunately no longer with us, who was known for his frank and honest comments, often very harsh. We arrived at the hotel and went back stage to warm up. I took out my horn and played my first long tone, an 'A',...
by Pre59
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Absolutely intonation
Replies: 16
Views: 854

Re: Absolutely intonation

I find that it's much easier to get the pitch of instruments that I already know the timbre of. Synths are more tricky, as are guitars when they're tuned down to 432hz.
by Pre59
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Absolutely intonation
Replies: 16
Views: 854

Re: Absolutely intonation

LeTromboniste wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Some people with perfect pitch say they can't seem to hear the "colour" of chords the way they understand others do, so in that sense it might not be just a gift, there might be drawbacks.
But not for this young man..

https://youtu.be/4i3R7Pn0jjg
by Pre59
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Absolutely intonation
Replies: 16
Views: 854

Re: Absolutely intonation

Sounds like she might have perfect pitch or something close to it! A real gift! A gift and a curse is what I've heard. I don't have that but have met people that swear over this. It would be interesting to hear from people with experience. How to deal with the rest of us who can not play at perfect...
by Pre59
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How to interpret Little Brown Jug
Replies: 5
Views: 364

Re: How to interpret Little Brown Jug

This is a collection of musicians from the leading bands of the time according to the lower menu in YouTube. "Members Of The Glenn Miller Orchestra, Members of The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, The Charlie Barnet Orchestra, The Stan Kenton Orchestra" The phrasing is unlike any GM version that I've heard, ...
by Pre59
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:43 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Denis Wick Rims
Replies: 15
Views: 968

Re: Denis Wick Rims

I noticed some of that while I was looking through the spec sheets. Definitely something to keep in mind as I'm looking at these The Josef Klier mouthpieces definitely sound interesting, but look to be a bit difficult for me to get a hold of right now. I will definitely keep an eye for those though...
by Pre59
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:47 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Denis Wick Rims
Replies: 15
Views: 968

Re: Denis Wick Rims

I've played a DW 9BS on and off over decades on a small bore horn, but am now experimenting with some Josef Klier pieces. The main issue that I have with Wicks is not the rim, which is on the flat side, it's that the smaller models have little in common with each other in the way that they play. The...
by Pre59
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:35 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Olds S20/23 10" bass bell
Replies: 7
Views: 318

Re: WTB: Olds S20/23 10" bass bell

I remember my S23 had a 10" bell, but then, it was long time ago..
by Pre59
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Practice mute material
Replies: 2
Views: 176

Re: Practice mute material

It looks like neoprene to me, what wet suits are made from.
by Pre59
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:05 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Perception of loudness
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Perception of loudness

Keyboard players spend most of their lives being the largest part of a musicial group, and they often struggle with being just a sixteenth part of a big band. The "touch" of a keyboard is easily adjusted to allow for the differences between a real and electric one. Most keyboards default to a easy s...
by Pre59
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Perception of loudness
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Perception of loudness

Full disclosure, I've been a bassist since the early '70's, on the Bass Gtr and the Double Bass having played in many commercial music settings including Big Bands. The DB has now gone and I'm left with two bass guitars and 3 trombones. A standard practice on the bass gtr, is muting the strings, and...
by Pre59
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Perception of loudness
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Perception of loudness

Depending on how the bass is set up, and the choice of strings etc, you can have masses of sustain and attack on a modern instrument. So my theory as to why the DB "swings" better than the B Gtr, is.. There's a delay between the initial string attack and the sound leaving the body, so to play good t...
by Pre59
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Perception of loudness
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Perception of loudness

I'm not sure I'm on board with the idea that a traditional double bass sound has weak 350Hz-range frequencies. I think it floats underneath a big band because it's quieter, not because it has a strong fundamental with few overtones. I didn't say that a the DB has weak frequencies, I said that to ge...
by Pre59
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Perception of loudness
Replies: 16
Views: 693

Re: Perception of loudness

In the case of the bass gtr, it's often the player is not cutting the low mid frequencies which are close to the low end of the tbns and saxes. The notes therefore punch through the band rather than under it like the traditional double bass sound would . Ironically, the tone shaping capabilities of ...
by Pre59
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:05 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Problem with initial attack
Replies: 20
Views: 1064

Re: Problem with initial attack

mickael57280 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:05 am
What do you mean when you said 100% air notes ?
I was agreeing with Doug that practicing air attacks is a beneficial technique.
by Pre59
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Problem with initial attack
Replies: 20
Views: 1064

Re: Problem with initial attack

100% on the air notes. Also you could try tonguing a short note without a deep breath, and then bit by bit increasing the air intake? To clarify, don't take the deeper breath that you would normally take to play at this stage.
by Pre59
Tue May 28, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Question about legato
Replies: 7
Views: 584

Re: Question about legato

There is not one correct answer. Learn to play different ways so you can choose what works best for you. I can't remember how I was taught, it was a long long time ago.. But on top of the soft tongue and fast slide approach I use "air notes", which is starting a note with a very gentle "ah" or "ha"...
by Pre59
Sun May 26, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Denis (one “N”) Wick?
Replies: 15
Views: 917

Re: Denis (one “N”) Wick?

I'm on my third DW 9BS mp, I've never cared much for their smaller pieces but this one just works. The next larger size 7CS feels too "splatty" and the high range is unbalanced on my small horns.
by Pre59
Sun May 26, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Dealing with frustration to not being able to practice open at home
Replies: 19
Views: 929

Re: Dealing with frustration to not being able to practice open at home

I've had to use a practice mute for over 10 years now, and I'm well used to it, but then I also use buzz aids etc. The trick is having a good open transition practice before the event, but then everyone else is warming up as well, so no big deal. I made choice to live in a better area, with a better...
by Pre59
Sun May 26, 2019 7:22 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Leadpipe Holder
Replies: 6
Views: 429

Re: Leadpipe Holder

My K+H pipes are sold in a clear tube with end caps. Something like this... https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=ZpLqXPuvDInosAfwvYfwAw&q=615+mm+inside+diameter+clear+tubing+and+end+caps&oq=615+mm+inside+diameter+clear+tubing+and+end+caps&gs_l=psy-ab.12...11155.11953..15350...0.0..0.67.253.4......0......
by Pre59
Sat May 25, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain
Replies: 22
Views: 1995

Re: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain

I don't know that I could pick out Rita's sound in a blinfold test like I could J.J. or Watrous or Curtis Fuller or Manglesdorf or Wycliffe Gordon etc. but there is definitely something captivating about how she plays. Is she putting the music above the "business" of music? By that I mean, her jazz...
by Pre59
Mon May 20, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain
Replies: 22
Views: 1995

Re: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain

I think it's to do with the differences that audio is sampled at in video formats, as opposed to stand alone audio. Normal video being at 48kHz and audio at 44.1 88.2 and 96kHz. In this instance I suspect that a box wasn't checked to align the 2 sample rates which will change the audio. This can be...
by Pre59
Sat May 18, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: need a new trombone amp
Replies: 11
Views: 656

Re: need a new trombone amp

I've played in plenty of those types of situations. Mostly I just ran a mic to the PA. The danger in having your own amp is that you'll turn up and that will encourage everybody else to turn up, which means you'll want to turn up again... +1 And here's a link to another topic that has some bearing....
by Pre59
Sat May 18, 2019 2:35 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Tinnitus
Replies: 6
Views: 449

Re: Tinnitus

I've got low level tinnitus in my left ear, thankfully at a single high frequency which makes it hard to identify as a note. I put this down to working as a bassist with loud drummers in tight hard wood corners on cruise ships. It's manageable, and doesn't have an obvious note, mechanical element, o...
by Pre59
Sat May 11, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Advice needed: change mouthpieces?
Replies: 11
Views: 648

Re: Advice needed: change mouthpieces?

In some ways a 2B plays more open than a 3B, you could try a Wick 9BS with it? My K+H is a smaller bore than a 2B and I can get the requisite sound from it with the Wick.

Cup diameter: 25.2mm.
Rim width: 6.36mm.
Throat: 6.66mm.
Backbore: V-Type. Small shank.
by Pre59
Tue May 07, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain
Replies: 22
Views: 1995

Re: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain

I think it's to do with the differences that audio is sampled at in video formats, as opposed to stand alone audio. Normal video being at 48kHz and audio at 44.1 88.2 and 96kHz. In this instance I suspect that a box wasn't checked to align the 2 sample rates which will change the audio. This can be ...
by Pre59
Mon May 06, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Efficient Practicing - Trombone & Bass Guitar
Replies: 3
Views: 354

Re: Efficient Practicing - Trombone & Bass Guitar

Any bass guitarists out there? I would appreciate any thoughts on how to incorporate practice regimens for trombone and bass guitar. Do you have a specific issue in mind? I find the bass gtr informs the the tbn and vice versa. As an example I bought the Phil Wilson "Chord Studies" tbn book to aid m...
by Pre59
Mon May 06, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: WD40 as outer slide cleaner?
Replies: 11
Views: 753

Re: WD40 as outer slide cleaner?

It's obvious even in the hands of an expert that there is a lot of sideways pressure from the rod to the slide tube. I would never run a rod through an inner slide, and never run a brush through an inner slide unless the inner is inside the outer so it is protected from side pressure. My underscore.
by Pre59
Sun May 05, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain
Replies: 22
Views: 1995

Re: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain

Here's another nice video, she's playing a Bb horn, the song is in F. She's a very talented musicial young lady.
by Pre59
Sun May 05, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain
Replies: 22
Views: 1995

Re: Wonderful, unique trombone sound of this young woman from Spain

It looks likes she's playing in the key of A, but it's sounding in Bb. Maybe it was altered post production somehow, It's also a Kuhnl and Hoyer tbn.
by Pre59
Sat May 04, 2019 6:08 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Dropping Bombs
Replies: 43
Views: 1972

Re: Dropping Bombs

Tony Studd playing Besame Mucho on the Kai Ole' album?
by Pre59
Fri May 03, 2019 2:08 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Forums of other instruments?
Replies: 14
Views: 714

Re: Forums of other instruments?

Bass Talk USA

Bass Chat UK
by Pre59
Fri May 03, 2019 2:07 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Current manufacture single valve bass bones
Replies: 29
Views: 1288

Re: Current manufacture single valve bass bones

Maybe the OP should get a single valve for for his own reasons, and then get some spare brass tubes assembled to look like an E dependant that can be attached "as and when". Everyones happy!! No point in bring the 1 valve vs 2 valve discussion in to this thread op didn't ask for that and we already...
by Pre59
Thu May 02, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Current manufacture single valve bass bones
Replies: 29
Views: 1288

Re: Current manufacture single valve bass bones

Maybe the OP should get a single valve for for his own reasons, and then get some spare brass tubes assembled to look like an E dependant that can be attached "as and when". Everyones happy!! No point in bring the 1 valve vs 2 valve discussion in to this thread op didn't ask for that and we already...
by Pre59
Thu May 02, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Current manufacture single valve bass bones
Replies: 29
Views: 1288

Re: Current manufacture single valve bass bones

Maybe the OP should get a single valve for for his own reasons, and then get some spare brass tubes assembled to look like an E dependant that can be attached "as and when".

Everyones happy!!
by Pre59
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Like I'm gonna pay $50 for a rag on a stick!
Replies: 31
Views: 1933

Re: Like I'm gonna pay $50 for a rag on a stick!

I put a couple of turns of duct tape around the bottom of the rod to ensure a snug fit. Very happy with this product, it just takes a little while to adapt it to your slide.

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