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by Pre59
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hissy/fuzzy sound
Replies: 22
Views: 1971

Re: Hissy/fuzzy sound

You can also modify a Bach 11C throat, and the result is fabulous! That is what Watrous played on for most of his career. It's not only the size of the throat, (the Marc pieces you named all have the same size throat as the Watrous modification), but the shape of the taper in the throat. All the pi...
by Pre59
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:38 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: SKB straight tenor case
Replies: 5
Views: 176

Re: SKB straight tenor case

I have an SKB 360 which is the narrow plastic model. The compartment lid doesn't quite go down flat when I lay my m/p (DW 9BS)down, but I can't imagine a situation where drilling is going help in any way.
by Pre59
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Can a teeth/jaw structure be incompatible with trombone mouthpiece?
Replies: 69
Views: 2001

Re: Can a teeth/jaw structure be incompatible with trombone mouthpiece?

Redthunder wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:48 am
Please:

GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
GET A LESSON WITH DOUG
mickael57280 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:24 am
I think I will do.
Good news! Don't "prevaricate" about the bush any more..
by Pre59
Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Focus and intonation with double valves in the middle register
Replies: 29
Views: 1406

Re: Focus and intonation with double valves in the middle register

I'm really pleased to see the subject of "alternative" positions being given some attention on this topic, are Trombonists "coming out" on this seldom discussed topic at last? Only a tiny minority of players will make it to that orchestral job, and so for the rest of us being resourceful and useful ...
by Pre59
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 724

Re: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?

High harmonics obviously increase with volume. It's the job of the orchestral player to control and limit that effect. It's the job of the commercial player to use it to advantage for projection. In a nutshell, that is the basis of the two seemingly conflicting approaches. But in any case, any indi...
by Pre59
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 724

Re: Playing loud with projection - lip compression or not?

This piece includes the following,

This is one of the first things a brass player learns: you close your mouth, pull your lips back in a strange smile, and blow.


Smile and press! Really?
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Exercises with practice mute
Replies: 6
Views: 261

Re: Exercises with practice mute

BGuttman wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:22 am
cozzagiorgi wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:11 am
I use a wallace. That works pretty well.
I have one too and think it's great. Seems they are no longer available.
I don't own one, but I know a couple of cases where the cork has swollen and come undone. This has made them hard to repair.
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 1851

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

I practice them and use them almost every time I play in public, in the form of tritone intervals.
Ain't no big deal..
by Pre59
Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 1851

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

...if I had an operator reaching for 6th and 7th for cyclic tasks, that is for tasks that need to be repeated too frequently. Ergonomics is all about force, frequency, and posture. Posture stinks for 6th and 7th, so anything to keep the frequency down is directionally correct. Cheers, Andy This tas...
by Pre59
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:16 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 1851

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

I sometimes wonder if the players who have problems with the lower positions are using a stiff vertical grip, rather than a more supple and open 45 degree one past the 4th. Also, whether much time has been spent learning to include these "alternate" shifts in normal practice? After all, it's the rel...
by Pre59
Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 1851

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

Shostakovich Jazz Suite. Play the F in 6, and to aid this, practice low G7 Arp's (no 1st position). It's really not written in the tenor trombones most flattering range either..

FWIW, Dudley Bright, the outgoing LSO principle tbn used a straight 88H every time I saw him play.
by Pre59
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Exercises with practice mute
Replies: 6
Views: 261

Re: Exercises with practice mute

I use a practice mute for all of my practice, and don't worry about it as long as I can get an open warm-up before the gig, and having used one for 10 years now I've adapted to it. But, they ain't all the same, and you may have to try a few to get the balance between the benefit and the damage. The ...
by Pre59
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:10 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?
Replies: 44
Views: 1151

Re: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?

Also bear in mind that the skin becomes dryer and that the lips thin with age. Having a moist embouchure helps me to find the "slot" immediately, which is the only setting for my entire range. And I HAVE played in environments where the sweat has been running down my face at only 10 in the morning, ...
by Pre59
Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?
Replies: 44
Views: 1151

Re: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?

I think that I've still got a copy, and the
Bill Watrous remark may in the Trombonisms book which I'll check after Christmas.
by Pre59
Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?
Replies: 44
Views: 1151

Re: Do you lick or moisten your lips before you play?

Bill Watrous in an interview said that an advantage of playing with wet lips is that when playing in a hot environment, or under pressure, when the lips would naturally be moist, is that you're still playing in the usual way. Unlike a dry embouchure player, who has to keep the lips dry under those d...
by Pre59
Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: high "dle"
Replies: 6
Views: 370

Re: high "dle"

Doug Elliott wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:12 pm

I can't doodle in the traditional way so I don't have a personal perspective on it, but I think the ability to doodle (at all) and the possible range for it depends on individual mouth structure.
Likewise, and does it only work at, "on the mic" levels for many people?
by Pre59
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore
Replies: 21
Views: 890

Re: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore

Very soft playing promotes control with a small aperture, both essential for high range. Yes, it's better to have initially quieter notes that can be worked on and opened out, rather than using volume and heft to get them. Also, high playing on smaller bore instruments can sometimes be in a melodic...
by Pre59
Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore
Replies: 21
Views: 890

Re: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore

If it is the horn (or a combo of me or the horn) what suggestions would you have for jazz horns with easy playing upper registers? Jazz horns are made to play for long periods of time, largely in the (relatively) higher register, and the 3B is one of the biggest selling horns of all time and goes o...
by Pre59
Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:00 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore
Replies: 21
Views: 890

Re: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore

Never had a range range problem on any of the three 3b's that I've owned, They were know as "easyphones" at that time for good reason.
by Pre59
Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:31 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Memorizing Techniques
Replies: 9
Views: 578

Re: Memorizing Techniques

There's an emotional element to it as well. If you're really interested in the melody, and feel moved by it, you have a far greater chance of retaining it. If not, it's just "stuff". I have countless tunes in my head that I can pull out of the blue, and in a choice of keys. But only because I have a...
by Pre59
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Wick 7CS Heritage Small Shank
Replies: 4
Views: 296

Re: WTB: Wick 7CS Heritage Small Shank

Because nothing has changed in my playing scene I'm unlikely to buy one. They don't seem to appear on eBay, and I don't know of anyone that owns, or has owned one.

Just wondering really.. :|
by Pre59
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Wick 7CS Heritage Small Shank
Replies: 4
Views: 296

Re: WTB: Wick 7CS Heritage Small Shank

Title says it all, let me know if you've got one. Thanks! I'm interested why you're into getting one of these. I'm currently playing a DW9BS which I'm doing ok on. The rim is comfortable, but I think that a m/P with a little more width might serve me better. The one thing that the smaller Wicks don...
by Pre59
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Valve Bass Trombone for Primary Instrument
Replies: 80
Views: 2948

Re: Single Valve Bass Trombone for Primary Instrument

For the dedicated bass trombonist, I believe that a double-valved instrument is now the standard, whether it’s necessary/deserved or not. For an avocational or amateur player or even a student, I don’t think anyone will fault you for having a single valve bass as a main horn. Some people will, as B...
by Pre59
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1852

Re: High note technique

One of my favorite questions from Al is: "If you are using your tongue for range, what are articulating with?" Also, listen to Milt Bernhardt's solo in Sinatra's IGYUMS, and while he is double tonguing the F#, do you think he is also arching his tongue? I totally agree. If I have to tongue any note...
by Pre59
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Jazz Trombone Ballads
Replies: 11
Views: 739

Re: Jazz Trombone Ballads

Charlie Small.
Pick something out of this lot. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... l+trombone
by Pre59
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1852

Re: High note technique

My experience is not dissimilar to the 2 posts directly above ^^, so I don't treat the topic lightly. I wasted a good many years trying to play on the kind of embouchure that I never saw any decent players use, and I sorted it out myself in a series of small steps after a painfully large one. In my ...
by Pre59
Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1852

Re: High note technique

We'll be getting all of our power from Fusion, and living on distant planets long before arriving at a consensus on this issue. :)
by Pre59
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1852

Re: High note technique

I'm fuzzy on the details but I think it had to do with a very low mouthpiece placement and downward motion. +1 When I'm about to play higher I make sure that I've got good contact with the upper inside of the rim, and aim the air lower, but there's an aperture element as well. It's a conscious acti...
by Pre59
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Best recording setup for practicing
Replies: 13
Views: 672

Re: Best recording setup for practicing

I have an H2, a H2n and a Q4. I'd recommend the H2n because of the many mic patterns available. In particular the M/S setting which will help you to get better sounding recordings in unfavourable conditions, being truly mono compatible.
by Pre59
Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: My new carbon fiber bass trombone by Butler Trombones
Replies: 56
Views: 3497

Re: My new carbon fiber bass trombone by Butler Trombones

I'd like to hear a greater range of tone colours as well, and not fff+ sounding like a louder version of mf.
by Pre59
Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Sound panels
Replies: 4
Views: 377

Re: Sound panels

They're made to control the sound reflected by the walls, not to stop it escaping. To contain the sound completely you need to make a room within the garage with a gap all around it, or line it with purpose made sound insulating materials. There's plenty of info on the web about this, since the rise...
by Pre59
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Different leadpipe material
Replies: 21
Views: 9457

Re: Different leadpipe material

I've have a brass and a sterling silver lead pipe for my K+H 480/88". What I do know is that when playing background music in restaurants and dinner music gigs, the s/s has softer articulations and attacks which better suits the required style, whereas the brass one feels more "all-round" being more...
by Pre59
Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:33 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Did we always get "the hand"?
Replies: 9
Views: 1138

Re: Did we always get "the hand"?

whitbey wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:51 pm


Just not as good of horns. I imagine most of the other instruments were not as good back then too.

Oh really? That's a comment and a half!
by Pre59
Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bolero on Veteran's Day program in France
Replies: 13
Views: 1258

Re: Bolero on Veteran's Day program in France

The tbn of 1928 is a very different from the gold belled .547 of today. I don't understand why people don't use a horn more in keeping with the style of the time. After all, many players will use an alto tbn without a second thought, so what's wrong with a .500 bore with a 6ish m/p? Pride?
by Pre59
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching Jazz Trombone to kids
Replies: 9
Views: 5541

Re: Teaching Jazz Trombone to kids

As much as universities are trying to codify otherwise, learning jazz is traditionally very strongly aural and imitative. Virtually all the 'greats' of the first century learned jazz by wearing out records or being lucky enough to be able to see live jazz every day. Those days are gone as far as I ...
by Pre59
Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: Sennheiser E 906 Mic Great Thomann Deal!
Replies: 0
Views: 15483

Sennheiser E 906 Mic Great Thomann Deal!

I've used these many times and there're great for tbn because of the 3-Position switch: bass cut, flat, high boost feature.

Promo deal, 100 Euros off!

https://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_e_ ... x_tsr_3813
by Pre59
Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Carbon Fiber slides? Yea or Nay?
Replies: 16
Views: 3081

Re: Carbon Fiber slides? Yea or Nay?

Seeing the YouTube video, I listened to it with my eyes closed and got the tone differences right away. Rather like carbon fibre guitars and basses, one of which I used for a long time, they fit in specific genres but aren't so universal.
by Pre59
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:12 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: flu shot that doesn't hurt (cough, cough)
Replies: 10
Views: 2605

Re: flu shot that doesn't hurt (cough, cough)

I can't speak for anyone else's experience here in the the UK, but the usual method is for the nurse to pinch the arm a few times during conversation, and while you're looking away the needle has been in and gone with almost no sensation.
by Pre59
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 7310

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

Most of the players I used in my film are available, with some travel. Milt Stevens is gone, he had a very unusual embouchure type and he was my only example of it. Doug, I've seen some high speed embouchure film with a credit given to Jim Fulkerson, was he one of your examples? I played with him i...
by Pre59
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:30 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 7310

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

Most of the players I used in my film are available, with some travel. Milt Stevens is gone, he had a very unusual embouchure type and he was my only example of it. Doug, I've seen some high speed embouchure film with a credit given to Jim Fulkerson, was he one of your examples? I played with him i...
by Pre59
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: clear upper register articulation
Replies: 7
Views: 1663

Re: clear upper register articulation

All my flexibilities and range ex's are all practiced without any tonguing whatsoever. I not suggesting that there could be a tonguing influence that I'm unaware of. But I'm not aware of it..
by Pre59
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: clear upper register articulation
Replies: 7
Views: 1663

Re: clear upper register articulation

It's all about light and fast up there. Speed up the air! I almost feel a (good) burning sensation at the chops because they are so focused in when I'm doing it right. The higher notes aren't like playing high on a Trumpet, where there's a mass of air resistance to contend with, there is resistance...
by Pre59
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Morning Chops
Replies: 9
Views: 1317

Re: Morning Chops

Burgerbob wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:56 pm

Take a walk. Stretch. Do something physical after you get up. Get the blood to your extremities.
+1
by Pre59
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:30 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2414

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

You can save a LOT of time if you learn what, how and why to practice those slurs directly as it relates to your own embouchure, EARLY in your playing life. I'm certainly glad I did exactly that. In my experience, almost everyone self-diagnoses incorrectly. Unfortunately I had a good high range fro...
by Pre59
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2414

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

A related question: does having one setting mean there is no perceptible motion in the embouchure? Speaking for my self, I have almost no visible motion, apart from very low intervals, but that's not anything that I've aimed at. It's a by-product of having practised close and wide slurs/flex's for ...
by Pre59
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2414

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

....but I think if there is something that can be said, its whatever reduces the motion to the smallest distance between notes accurately is whats best for anyone. How to get there on the other hand... My underscore to Matt' K's post, but I've found that lip flexibilities in myriad ways is key to a...
by Pre59
Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2414

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

What does an upper range setting comprise of? I use the same setting from the middle outwards, apart from notes below pedal Ab.
by Pre59
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Slide
Replies: 44
Views: 3539

Re: Slide

by Pre59
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:57 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Slide
Replies: 44
Views: 3539

Re: Slide

Brasso is really hard to wash out. Yes it is. That's why the Slide Dr. uses Wright's brass polish. Which, I believe, is water based versus Brasso, which is oil based. I'm not 100% sure on that, but maybe Bruce or one of the other chemists can confirm—or someone who has a bottle of both to compare. ...
by Pre59
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.
Replies: 34
Views: 2551

Re: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.

What I was taught as a kid, is that the Tbn is a mercurial instrument. That it sits between other instruments to complete them in a musical setting. That it has many facets, from dark and sombre through brilliant to romantic. That it lends itself to situations where a horn section needs the maximum ...

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