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by mrdeacon
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart
Replies: 7
Views: 287

Re: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart

Has anyone tried the standard 88H and 88HT back to back? I’ve read a few times that the ‘T’ thin bell versions are closer to the old Elkhart models? The regular bells aren't super duper heavy and the light bells aren't super duper light... but I have yet to play a T bell I don't like and I have yet...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: AR Resonance Mouthpieces
Replies: 1
Views: 128

Re: AR Resonance Mouthpieces

Alex Iles and some of the other studio cats and LA are big fans of them. I've only heard good things about them!
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.
Replies: 13
Views: 403

Re: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.

Neo Bri's impression is similar to the one I have. Having seen all the trombone threads and knowing a couple of cats encounters with them from the tromboneforums it raises some red flags for me. Combine that with the significant wait time and downpayment you have to pay to get on the wait list, I'd ...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: FS Get a Grip
Replies: 0
Views: 64

FS Get a Grip

I've got an old Get a Grip sitting around I'd like to sell. I'll let it go for $30 PayPal. Shipping is included. This one was bent quite a bit to fit a Shires Trubore set. Has some crimp marks on the leather but overall in good shape and has plenty of life in it if you're willing to bend it into sha...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lawler trombones
Replies: 6
Views: 208

Re: Lawler trombones

Thanks for the literal info!

I kind of implied that the bell distance on the Model 2 was the same as on a Williams but it's nice to have measurements! You should tell Lawler to add that info to his website!
by mrdeacon
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 2b Identify
Replies: 9
Views: 318

Re: King 2b Identify

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/show.php?se ... %22King%22

If you look at the engraving images on hornucopia you can see that your "King" logo matches that of the 70s "rope" era engraving. Sure looks similar to the engraving on the late 70s King 3B I had.
by mrdeacon
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Horn Porn for July 3rd.....
Replies: 16
Views: 503

Re: Horn Porn for July 3rd.....

One of my friends recently had John Sanhagen put a pair on a Conn 73H. Man they blow great! Random question but are the bass rotors oversized like Greenhoe or Shires rotors or are they standard size? I noticed the rotors look like they might be oversized like Greenhoes but they feel like really well...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Milashius Mouthpieces at ITF
Replies: 2
Views: 170

Re: Milashius Mouthpieces at ITF

Do you have any other info on the mouthpieces? Specs, ect.?

The website doesn't seem to have much info...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:18 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS Brass Ark Schatz TR185 leadpipe
Replies: 3
Views: 137

Re: FS Brass Ark Schatz TR185 leadpipe

Sorry I should have put more info!

The pipe has is press fit and in pulled yellow brass. If you would like I have some spare Edwards threads I can include for free and you can have a tech put that on.
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS Brass Ark Schatz TR185 leadpipe
Replies: 3
Views: 137

FS Brass Ark Schatz TR185 leadpipe

Hi! I have a Brass Ark Minick/Schatz TR185 leadpipe for sale! It's about a year and a half old and I used it daily for about about a year in my Shires before switching to a horn that the leadpipe just didn't work in. This one is the longer newer design (IMO better then the first batch or two of pipe...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Shires B62NLWC slide
Replies: 4
Views: 163

Re: FS: Shires B62NLWC slide

Holy crap that's a good deal! I wish you were selling this slide a year back when I was looking for a Shires slide!
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: (Cassifieds) Cases
Topic: WTB Small Bore SKB Case or Eastman case
Replies: 0
Views: 48

WTB Small Bore SKB Case or Eastman case

Hi! I'm looking for a Small Bore SKB or Eastman case!

Let me know what you have!
by mrdeacon
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton 158 how much?
Replies: 11
Views: 235

Re: Holton 158 how much?

I think the 37 is the number of the slide tenon. It doesn't mean anything, it's a production number to make sure they match up parts correctly.

On Holtons the only number that pertain to the model designation is the three digits right after the TR.
by mrdeacon
Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Holton TR 185 FS
Replies: 1
Views: 166

Re: Holton TR 185 FS

Possibly interested... PM sent...
by mrdeacon
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: BAC 6H, Yamaha 897Z, Bach 42,and Getzen 547 Capri
Replies: 4
Views: 343

Re: FS: BAC 6H, Yamaha 897Z, Bach 42,and Getzen 547 Capri

Just a heads up none of your picture links work.
by mrdeacon
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?
Replies: 10
Views: 278

Re: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?

Thanks for all the responses! Let's open this up to also include musicians who play Elkhart Conn 62H shaped objects and other TIS basses! Of course almost all the LA studio cats play 62H's or 62H shaped objects like Kanstul or Greenhoes. I've seen Rath TIS horns and played on one but I'm not sure I'...
by mrdeacon
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: How do you teach/describe your “breathing concept”?
Replies: 47
Views: 965

Re: How do you teach/describe your “breathing concept”?

Andy (afugate) I dig how you've adapted "blowing pipe" for the trombone! I haven't met many other people who do that technique. I spent a large portion of my undergrad with a teacher who adapted parts of the Bill Adams routine into his own pedagogy and another one who directly studied with Bill Adam...
by mrdeacon
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 90
Views: 2026

Re: Db bass trombone!

Sorry I'm having trouble doing the math in my head... Db+G=?
by mrdeacon
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Loud Mouthpieces
Replies: 13
Views: 555

Re: Loud Mouthpieces

timothy42b wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:37 am
That is the most well done spoof web site I have ever seen. Bravo!

I didn't find a single misspelling or grammatical error, either.
Did you read the entire document for the Dynamic Economics thing? It's 28 pages and quite the read. I'm not sure it's a spoof... :amazed:
by mrdeacon
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Beginner Euphonium
Replies: 13
Views: 601

Re: Beginner Euphonium

John L you're right. Sorry I sometimes forget how fortunate most school districts are out here in California. I'll still keep my point though that if the student has access to any sort of the horn (even if it isn't in the greatest shape) from the school they should take advantage of it. If the stude...
by mrdeacon
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?
Replies: 10
Views: 278

Re: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?

I didn’t know Jeff Reynolds played a 62H. He played on a Mt. V Bach modified by Larry Minick for ages, then played Getzen for a while, then played something else. Did he play the 62H in his earlier years? Ooops! I saw something that looking like a Minick and assumed that it was a 62H :pant: Well I ...
by mrdeacon
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:02 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?
Replies: 10
Views: 278

Re: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?

Do you remember when Don Harwood used one in the NY Phil? For some reason I thought he was a long time Bach player.

Thanks for the other names!
by mrdeacon
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?
Replies: 10
Views: 278

Who are your favorite bass trombone players who played on a Elkhart Conn 62H?

Hi! I'm interested in who your favorite bass trombone players are who played a Conn Elkhart 62H. I understand this is kind of a weird question but I'm in particular looking for recordings or names of players who played this model horn. I know most of the studio cats have been played them for eons bu...
by mrdeacon
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Beginner Euphonium
Replies: 13
Views: 601

Re: Beginner Euphonium

Tell them to not rent or buy a Euphonium!! Rent or borrow one directly from the school. Unless if they are in a really impoverished district the school will have horns. Renting a Euphonium from a music store or buying one is a huge investment and is a waste of money in the long run. Euphs aren't lik...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 90
Views: 2026

Re: Db bass trombone!

The valve for sure alleviates some of the problems some members had in this thread. I'm also curious to hear it!
by mrdeacon
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve
Replies: 8
Views: 338

Re: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve

I also don't like the positioning of the lower tube. I play with a thumb rest and it gets in the way of it. I love the way they play otherwise and if it weren't for those two things, I'd still probably be playing on one. I wish I had taken a picture when I had the set... but I had John Sandhagen mo...
by mrdeacon
Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve
Replies: 8
Views: 338

Re: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve

The throw is very nice. A tad longer then rotors but way shorter then axials. The blow is different... in a good and bad way... some people like then some people don't. I spent a lot of time in my undergrad on a dependent set for bass and decided they weren't for me. Just a heads up, for some people...
by mrdeacon
Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Artist select program
Replies: 4
Views: 237

Re: Artist select program

If you buy something new from any of custom makers (Shires, Rath, Edwards, M&W, ect.), Yamaha or Getzen anything you buy is going to play great out of the box.

Random question... I've seen the Artist Select thing on social media. Do they charge more for the artist select horns?
by mrdeacon
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?
Replies: 26
Views: 771

Re: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?

I'm a Conn guy for large bore tenors and a Conn and Holton guy for bass trombones. All my heroes played those horns and I'm just drawn to how they sound. That said out of the modern makers the best horns I've had the pleasure of blowing are a M&W Bach 50B style horn at ITF 2017 and original Greenhoe...
by mrdeacon
Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bell repair = deadening sound?
Replies: 5
Views: 231

Re: Bell repair = deadening sound?

Sometimes horns that have had rough past lives play like absolute garbage while other times they play better beat up then they did when they were brand new. Personally I don't like have creases or large dents in my instruments and I get them fixed but I know some players who swear by their beat to h...
by mrdeacon
Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Bach 42AF rings at B flat below middle C
Replies: 9
Views: 342

Re: New Bach 42AF rings at B flat below middle C

Well there are two kinds of possibly ringing with a horn... There is when something is ringing in your horn like you have a leak or a loose solder joint. Maybe one of your screws isn't tightened all the way down? And there is your horn being resonate whether as a whole or just the bell. Which is wha...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: 88H Trigger
Replies: 9
Views: 378

Re: 88H Trigger

Would not want thumb or hand pain if it can be avoided. Didn’t they make an adjuable paddle on 88Hs? The older style of trigger on Elkharts and Gen I horns is literally just a rod. Very comfortable though for a lot of people. That's the type that was originally designed to fit your horn and can be ...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Plz I really need help
Replies: 10
Views: 836

Re: Plz I really need help

I like the raw brass look on my bell though. That is the raw brass look. :good: Exactly! The uglier your bell the better :biggrin: My bass is completely unlacquered. It looks like I found my horn abandoned in a attic or in a dumpster. I personally dig the look! If you want a shiny horn having a unl...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: “Remington” or Morse Taper on 88H
Replies: 15
Views: 439

Re: “Remington” or Morse Taper on 88H

greenbean wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:30 pm
Modern Schilkes have a dual taper and should fit, too. I really like the Symphony series...
I don't think you're right... But I don't have a modern Schilke or a Remington taper horn to compare it with...

Can someone else confirm this?
by mrdeacon
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke M6.0
Replies: 9
Views: 598

Re: Schilke M6.0

Bigger then a 59 but smaller then a 60. I can dig. So like a Doug Elliott L type cup. I have a custom Schilke Dennis Bubert mouthpiece made in the 80's that's essentially a Schilke 60 rim on a 59 cup and shank. I dug it but I felt like the cup was a little small for the playing I do. A M6.0 sounds l...
by mrdeacon
Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke M6.0
Replies: 9
Views: 598

Re: Schilke M6.0

So is a M6.0 basically a Schilke 60 rim on a 59 cup and body?
by mrdeacon
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 702

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

greenbean wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:06 am
Guys, be realistic. Conn TIS and TIB slides are not compatible. Period.
Not really true... a TIS slide with the tuning mechanism all the way in is about the same length as a TIB slide. There are sometimes benefits to using a TIS slide on a TIB horn.
by mrdeacon
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards CR valves
Replies: 13
Views: 948

Re: Edwards CR valves

Anybody have experience with Edwards' CR valve option on bass trombone? Does it come in a dependent setup? Cost of either setup (just the valve set)? Are they lighter (weight) than Thayers? They do come in dependent. I inquired about this when they first introduced the CR valves and I was on the hu...
by mrdeacon
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 702

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

Should work with all Conns, including side tuning bell sections (so, the fabled "no tuning" option). Will not work with 'long slide' models... especially late 70H. Also 71H, 72H, 73H.. also poss 83H... otherwise.... Chris Are the connectors different? I swear I swapped some things around with a 70H...
by mrdeacon
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Minick Elky 62H on Ebay
Replies: 3
Views: 570

Re: Minick Elky 62H on Ebay

That's awesome! Great to see it go to a good home!
by mrdeacon
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Minick Elky 62H on Ebay
Replies: 3
Views: 570

Minick Elky 62H on Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-Elkhart-vintage-62h-dual-rotor-bass-trombone-with-case-excellent-shape/113055044012?hash=item1a529b11ac:g:qD0AAOSwL4lbHvau Open wrapped, D slide, brass levers and those white gray ball and socket connectors. Very clear picture of the lever saying Minick! Seems like a go...
by mrdeacon
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Early 9 1/2" Holton TR180 on Ebay!
Replies: 0
Views: 334

Early 9 1/2" Holton TR180 on Ebay!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bass-Trombone-TR-180-w-F-E-dual-independent-rotors-562-Bore/222995826053?hash=item33eb964585:g:0NEAAOSwruVbDA9c I'm not sure anyone bidding knows what the horn actually is. It looks like this is one of the original run of the TR180's. I can't remember the exact number but th...
by mrdeacon
Sat May 26, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.
Replies: 13
Views: 800

Re: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.

That's interesting to hear about the 62H. I think I've only ever played with one person who had one - and it was a Greenhoe 62H - and it was back around a decade ago in my undergraduate. Wonder if it's more of a west coast thing. Seems like it. But it only seems to show up in certain scenes. You se...
by mrdeacon
Sat May 26, 2018 12:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.
Replies: 13
Views: 800

Re: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.

I wonder why there is less shifting on small-bore tenor gear in general. Probably just less things on it to mess around with. Probably also a smaller market which leads to less R&D. Just think about it from a job perspective. When the studio cats need to break out small horns it's usually for more ...
by mrdeacon
Sat May 26, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.
Replies: 13
Views: 800

Re: I found this page from "Wind Player" magazine describing Hollywood studio players' gear.

Yup, pretty old article. Lots of new stuff out there now. The Greenhoe 62 reigns supreme (both Alex and Bill on those, as well as some others), and Alex is now playing a Greenhoe large tenor as well. Yep. Pretty much everyone now uses a Greenhoe style 62H or a Minickized Conn 62H. Phil Keen uses a ...
by mrdeacon
Fri May 25, 2018 1:59 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Compatible slides for a Bach 42
Replies: 10
Views: 661

Re: Compatible slides for a Bach 42

The Bach 42 uses a Bach 50B tenon. So anything that uses a Bach 50B tenon and threads will screw right on. Bach 42, 50 and Edwards .547 and .565 slides will all screw right on. You can friction fit a Shires slide but like Matt said the slide won't screw down though you can custom order a Shires slid...
by mrdeacon
Sun May 13, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightest weight Bass Trbs
Replies: 7
Views: 507

Re: Lightest weight Bass Trbs

For new horns the lightest horns would be Kanstul or Rath.

Vintage Conns and Holtons are also both very light though you might encounter some ergo issues with the double plug versions from both companies. That problem can easily be fixed by a tech splitting the triggers and making them fit your hand.
by mrdeacon
Sat May 12, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece plating wearing off?
Replies: 5
Views: 500

Re: Mouthpiece plating wearing off?

Assuming you haven't actually worn through the playing and this is just discoloration you can get rid of that with silver polish.

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