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by mrdeacon
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS ‘77 Holton 180 custom
Replies: 4
Views: 206

Re: FS ‘77 Holton 180 custom

Ah! I wondered whose idea it was to put that crazy f attachment tubing on that horn! The original designed trapped water like crazy. I asked John to open wrap it but he didn't have the parts to make a Minick style wrap. So John got the idea to make the German/Reynolds style wrap. The rest is histor...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS ‘77 Holton 180 custom
Replies: 4
Views: 206

Re: FS ‘77 Holton 180 custom

That horn has a 10" bell!

It used to be mine :pant:

I wish I had the funds to take it off your hands Sam!
by mrdeacon
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath small bore questions
Replies: 3
Views: 220

Re: Rath small bore questions

Rath small bores are essentially souped up Bachs. I absolutely love my R1 and I think it blows better than any Bach 16 or 16M I've ever tried! Getting the more exotic materials like a nickel bell or copper crooks and tubes can make the Rath it's own unique beast... but at the end of the day they are...
by mrdeacon
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Leadpipe Questions
Replies: 6
Views: 291

Re: Leadpipe Questions

The rep flipped it around. What you're hearing and feeling is how most players would perceive those pipes. I hesitate to give advice... but honestly, leadpipes are less about "sound" and more about finding what feels good. Helps dial in the blow of the horn. Some horns are picky about leadpipes and ...
by mrdeacon
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Modified lead pipe for Bach 16M
Replies: 13
Views: 502

Re: Modified lead pipe for Bach 16M

Is it just the later 16Ms with the funky short pipe or do the regular 16s also have the funky pipe too?
by mrdeacon
Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Search for bass mouthpiece ideas
Replies: 12
Views: 542

Re: Search for bass mouthpiece ideas

Check out Doug's pieces. What Doug recommended would work really well. I personally never got along with the XB series but I was a big fan of his LB series with the M or L cup. His 112 rim is fantastic and would work perfect for what you're looking to do! Doug seriously makes the comfiest rims in th...
by mrdeacon
Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTT/FS my Bach MV 2G for your MV 2G or 1 1/2G
Replies: 1
Views: 184

WTT/FS my Bach MV 2G for your MV 2G or 1 1/2G

Hi guys! So I've been spending time on this piece... and while I love this particular 2G the slightly different taper shank is not something that is going to work for me in the long run. I like my current morse taper pipes too much and don't want to rebuy all my pipes for this one mouthpiece. I'm lo...
by mrdeacon
Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case
Replies: 4
Views: 211

Re: WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case

Just picked up a Bonna Soft case. Holy cow it's great! I'll write a review at some point because there is next to no info on these cases floating around the internet.
by mrdeacon
Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case
Replies: 4
Views: 211

Re: WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case

Thanks for the heads up! I'm very tempted to pay full price... I might end up just driving down to Horn Guys if I can't find a used case sometime soon.
by mrdeacon
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case
Replies: 4
Views: 211

WTB Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case

Hey guys! I've got the Christmas gig money burning a hole in my pocket. Anyone have a spare Marcus Bonna Bass Trombone case lying around? I'm looking for the standard 9.5" bell bass case. I'm not interested in the larger 10"-10.5" bell case or the screw bell case. Any "branding" variation is fine to...
by mrdeacon
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Brass Ark Burt Herrick 62H pipe
Replies: 2
Views: 197

Re: WTB Brass Ark Burt Herrick 62H pipe

Found a Seamed Copper pipe for cheap! Thanks guys!
by mrdeacon
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 2717

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

I meant no offense! In my defense, you did mention a Jupiter instrument as a sign of quality :pant: (Just kidding!!) I know their quality is better now but for anyone who has had experience with old Jupiter horns, that statement is enough to trigger someone haha. Sorry, if I am rude: But obviously ...
by mrdeacon
Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Cleaning a very dirty and old instrument
Replies: 10
Views: 450

Re: Cleaning a very dirty and old instrument

I suggest doing what the above two already said. Give it a bath, use dish soap. If it still ends up being funky or is no longer funky but has build up you can't seem to clean out then that's the time to take it to a tech for a chem clean.
by mrdeacon
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Brass Ark Burt Herrick 62H pipe
Replies: 2
Views: 197

WTB Brass Ark Burt Herrick 62H pipe

Hi guys!

I'm on the lookout for a Brass Ark Burk Herrick 62H pipe. I'd prefer it to be press fit and in pulled yellow brass if possible.

Though I'm interested in any variation of the pipe!

Thanks!
by mrdeacon
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Elliott D2, D3 or C2 shanks!
Replies: 3
Views: 293

Re: WTB Elliott D2, D3 or C2 shanks!

So far I have a C+ cup, D2 Olds shank and a C3 shank!

As great as the Olds shank plays I think I'm going to try and pick up a standard taper shank.

Still looking for a standard D2, D3 or C2 shank!!!
by mrdeacon
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 2717

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

I meant no offense! In my defense, you did mention a Jupiter instrument as a sign of quality :pant: (Just kidding!!) I know their quality is better now but for anyone who has had experience with old Jupiter horns, that statement is enough to trigger someone haha. Like I said I could be wrong about p...
by mrdeacon
Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 2717

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

I know it's a puny point, but if Jupiter XOs (the newer ones) can come with invisible seams, why can't an instrument that costs at least twice as much. Not that the Shires is badly made. Not in the least, but it's not any better put together than my 80's King 4B or my Jupiter XOs. I like my Shires ...
by mrdeacon
Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Older Yamaha 321 and 322R basses
Replies: 12
Views: 1270

Re: Older Yamaha 321 and 322R basses

I have never seen a YBL 321 with a nickle slide are you sure it is original to the instrument?? All the ones I've seen had a brass outer slide with nickle sleeves at the top Could be someones put a YSL 641 tenor slide with the bell section?.... I would get it checked out if I were you. Just sayin' ...
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Giddings mouthpieces
Replies: 13
Views: 652

Re: Giddings mouthpieces

The biggest thing is the feedback is different. Some dig the "clearer" sound. I'm so used to playing brass or brass/plastic that I just can't stand stainless steel. They are super comfortable and Giddings does make a fine product, it's just not for me. Also, the super thin shank thing is hogwash. It...
by mrdeacon
Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?
Replies: 23
Views: 722

Re: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?

I haven't played a Shires 2G or 1 1/2G but I've heard nothing but good things about their tenor pieces and larger bass pieces. I should have added Shires to my initial list!
by mrdeacon
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?
Replies: 23
Views: 722

Re: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?

Some Getzen 1 1/2Gs aren't half bad... I have one that nearly outplays my early Bach Corp. 1 1/2G and my Mount Vernon 2G haha. I was floored when I spent some time are Burgerbobs swapping mouthpieces and my Getzen 1 1/2G was one of the best mouthpieces in the room. I'm personally not a fan of the St...
by mrdeacon
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?
Replies: 23
Views: 722

Re: Bass trombone mouthpiece in 1.5-2 range?

Question #1 and #2 is how much do you want to spend and are you willing to pick something up used? Your son just needs to find a mouthpiece that plays well all around. Something that can do everything. The player can darken or brighten the sound themselves if they equipment they are comfortable on. ...
by mrdeacon
Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Elliott D2, D3 or C2 shanks!
Replies: 3
Views: 293

Re: WTB Elliott XT or LT Small Shank parts

Found a XT C+ cup woot!!!

I'm still looking for a C2, C3 or D2 or D3 shank. Preferably looking for a D2 or D3 shank.

Thanks guys!
by mrdeacon
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Elliott D2, D3 or C2 shanks!
Replies: 3
Views: 293

WTB Elliott D2, D3 or C2 shanks!

Hi all! Still on the hunt! My XT D cup and D4 shank is just too big for my Rath. In particular, I'm looking for XT C or C+ cups with a corresponding 2 or 3 shank or... I'm looking for a D2 or D3 shank. If you happen to have an entire LT setup, preferably with a lexan rim, 100 sized rim or larger, wi...
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil
Replies: 12
Views: 550

Re: Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil

Original spec Besson New Standards have brass valve guides. A competent tech can retrofit the standards, like my euphonium, to nylon threads. Yamaha coated springs and synthetic oil works fine for me. Mine is a ‘75 w/ large shank. It's actually not a speed thing. The valves just feel leaky. There i...
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:13 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil
Replies: 12
Views: 550

Re: Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil

... What do you guys use for old and leaky valves?? 10W-30? :evil: You can find some heavier spindle oils that might work OK for the rotor. Problem with a piston valve is that heavier oils have higher viscosity and will get sluggish. You need a non-Newtonian material with a high standing viscosity ...
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Good to know! I wasn't sure if there was a devout following for either one.

The one I got sure seems to be a good one :pant:
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil
Replies: 12
Views: 550

Favorite Heavy Piston/Rotor oil

Hi! I'm looking for some recommendations for heavier rotor or piston oil. Both my New Standard Besson and Minick bass have valves that have looser tolerances than most horns and I need some thicker oil. Currently, I'm using Ultra Pure on the inside of the bass rotors and on the euph pistons. I was u...
by mrdeacon
Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

I guess I have a question...

For anyone that owns both the "later" and the "early" versions of Mount Vernon pieces which do you prefer to play?
by mrdeacon
Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton TR181 introduced when?
Replies: 6
Views: 445

Re: Holton TR181 introduced when?

ZacharyThornton wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:42 pm
The modern TR181s even use parts from Bach 50s. It is weird seeing them without the chrome slide braces!
I forgot about that! I remember that thread from the old trombone forums. It was a trip seeing Bach 50B parts on a stock TR181.
by mrdeacon
Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Adams trombones?
Replies: 3
Views: 387

Re: Adams trombones?

I have two friends who played them at NAMM 2018 and they both said they were some of the best big tenors on the floor. On an unrelated note... I finally got to play on one of their E1 Euphs, this one had a Sterling silver bell. It played great! But not that great... For the price, I wasn't impressed...
by mrdeacon
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Yes it will wobble in a Morse pipe.... it will also stick out more. Don't twist it in as you will damage the pipe. The mouthpieces I am using are copies of my Mt Vernon and have this longer shank and different taper .... I use pipes with the correct taper for them. Chris So what pipes do you have t...
by mrdeacon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton TR181 introduced when?
Replies: 6
Views: 445

Re: Holton TR181 introduced when?

Guessing here. I thought it was around 1968 or so. Nah that's the TR180. The TR181 came about at the end of the TR180 and TR185 production cycle so if memory serves me right production on the TR181 started around 1978 or 1979. I could be wrong on that though... but I'm pretty sure the TR180 and TR1...
by mrdeacon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Also with these Mount Vernons with the longer shank, is there supposed to be a slight wobble in regular morse taper leadpipes? I'm using the piece in an MK GR pipe and it sits with a small wobble if I don't give it a slight twist. In comparison my Elliott LB and MB pieces and my newer Bach bass pie...
by mrdeacon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Also with these Mount Vernons with the longer shank, is there supposed to be a slight wobble in regular morse taper leadpipes? I'm using the piece in an MK GR pipe and it sits with a small wobble if I don't give it a slight twist. In comparison my Elliott LB and MB pieces and my newer Bach bass piec...
by mrdeacon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

https://imgur.com/a/7l2wkdf Finally got around to taking some pictures! As noted this is versus an early 70s Corp. 1 1/2G. Shank is noticeably longer on the 2G and the rim is noticeably wider on the outside. It's hard to tell in the pictures but the shank on the outside at least is also a slightly d...
by mrdeacon
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: My new carbon fiber bass trombone by Butler Trombones
Replies: 56
Views: 3391

Re: My new carbon fiber bass trombone by Butler Trombones

When we're saying "ping" are we referring to the "Becker low brass camp" definition of ping in the players sound or are we referring to when you flick a bell with your finger? My experience, at least with Holtons, has been different than Gabe's experiences. Most vintage Holtons I have tried seem to ...
by mrdeacon
Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: How do you remove and replace an Edwards wooden trigger cover?
Replies: 5
Views: 368

Re: How do you remove and replace an Edwards wooden trigger cover?

Eeeeh. If it's got glue it's a real pain to remove.

Honestly, I just had my tech remove mine when I realized the one on my Getzen bass was glued on. I was too skittish to do it myself. I don't remember what they did though... I think they just used a pair of soft jaw pliers and yanked it off.
by mrdeacon
Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:06 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece Mayhem
Replies: 7
Views: 969

Re: Mouthpiece Mayhem

Let me know if that Greg Black 6 1/2AL sale falls through. I have a friend who'll take that off your hands in a heartbeat.
by mrdeacon
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: 5C-ish sized mouthpiece ideas
Replies: 13
Views: 725

Re: 5C-ish sized mouthpiece ideas

I know Doug makes different cup weights for his LB and XB bass sizes now. I'm sure he could whip you something some heavy LT cups.

You could always try XT stuff too but that might make things at bit too broad sounding.
by mrdeacon
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Tuning in slide opinions?
Replies: 19
Views: 1054

Re: Tuning in slide opinions?

Heavy slide + light bell = magic. The TIS Kanstul basses that I have tried have very light slide mechanisms in comparison to, say, a Greenhoe. As a result, I think it loses much of the magic of great TIS horns... This is entirely possible. I wouldn't call my Kanstul "magical". It works well in cham...
by mrdeacon
Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart
Replies: 33
Views: 2457

Re: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart

Thanks for the correction! That'd good to know!
by mrdeacon
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:15 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart
Replies: 33
Views: 2457

Re: New Conn 88H’s made in Elkhart

I gather HG is still fine tuning the horns they receive from Conn-Selmer before selling them. I think they did this with the Eastlake horns too. As far as I know they don't fine tune the horns... The will send back ones that are lemons. They will repair horns that arrive damaged but still play well...
by mrdeacon
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Tuning in slide opinions?
Replies: 19
Views: 1054

Re: Tuning in slide opinions?

I wish I could play with my tuning slide all the way in but my arm is literally too shoot to do that! If I push my tuning slide all the way in and my 7th position and flat 7th are not usable. Don't forget guys there is a 2nd type of TIS!!! You can have a Williams style J bend tuning slide. You get t...
by mrdeacon
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Custom 42A value
Replies: 11
Views: 480

Re: Custom 42A value

I'll add too. For me at least the MK crook and aftermarket valve section with a true E pull add value for me. Maybe the true market value is $100-$300 less then what I posted but like I said both of those things are a big plus for me.
by mrdeacon
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Custom 42A value
Replies: 11
Views: 480

Re: Custom 42A value

Bach5G wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:17 pm
I suggest you sell it to Mr. Deacon.
Haha I'm thinking about it!! :pant:
by mrdeacon
Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Custom 42A value
Replies: 11
Views: 480

Re: Custom 42A value

A Bach 42/frankenbone with the lacquer stripped. ~$1200 USD. IMHO of course. You kidding? That's way under priced. $1200 is an average price for a stock beater 42B. Quick sale would be around $2000. If you're willing to wait and find a buyer who will pay what it's worth you can get at least $2500-2...
by mrdeacon
Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:32 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Bach made Conn tapered shanks, not necessarily stamped with a C on the shank. I have a "taller" Mt. Vernon 1 1/2G and the area below the outside rim is thicker than a modern Bach mouthpiece. I consider the versions with the thicker rim area "older" and the versions that resemble current one "later"...
by mrdeacon
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length
Replies: 29
Views: 1387

Re: Bach Mount Vernon Bass Trombone shank length

Chris Stearn will confirm, as I am nowhere near the MV 1.5 he lent me, or the copies I made from it, but the shank is most definitely a little longer than Corporation 1.5s, and of a different taper - externally at least. Bill You're spot on! My shank is maybe 1/10? of an inch longer. Looked bigger ...

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