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by hornbuilder
Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Sauer Braces
Replies: 18
Views: 2582

Re: Sauer Braces

The problem with the F slide is there is nothing to stop the brace from opening the span too far. You would be much better off having an actual brace soldered on. If you think it needs it.
by hornbuilder
Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Rotor Bass Trombone
Replies: 34
Views: 2193

Re: Single Rotor Bass Trombone

In response to Finetales. I also conducted a similar experiment, however I used the same bell, tuning slide and handslide, so the only difference was the valve section. (There were also different valve types involved as well, but that is for another thread) In a blind play off (the audience had thei...
by hornbuilder
Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Rotor Bass Trombone
Replies: 34
Views: 2193

Re: Single Rotor Bass Trombone

To piggy back on Chris' comment... Just because an instrument only has one valve does not make it any "lighter". The Conn 71 and 72 (and most 70's) "are" lighter/smaller because the bell flare and tuning slide are considerably smaller in profile. A 72H tuning slide crook will actually fit INSIDE a B...
by hornbuilder
Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:10 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Sauer Braces
Replies: 18
Views: 2582

Re: Sauer Braces

It works like a turnbuckle.
by hornbuilder
Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Rotor Bass Trombone
Replies: 34
Views: 2193

Re: Single Rotor Bass Trombone

M&W. 929 single valve traditional wrap. Because it PLAYS!!
by hornbuilder
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Laskey mouthpieces
Replies: 3
Views: 660

Re: Laskey mouthpieces

Scott Laskey passed away. As noted above, the brand has been purchased, and production is supposed to be starting at some point.
by hornbuilder
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Converting F trigger type?
Replies: 4
Views: 743

Re: Converting F trigger type?

It would "really" surprise me if there was anything "off the shelf" available. You're going to need to find a texh who can do the work for you.
by hornbuilder
Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Advantages of wooden thumb rests
Replies: 8
Views: 992

Re: Advantages of wooden thumb rests


Some of the more insane among us might argue with that. I have a story for you, Matthew :twisted:
I think I know that story. 🙂
by hornbuilder
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach 36B Bell Section ID?
Replies: 7
Views: 806

Re: Bach 36B Bell Section ID?

My '69 50BG did NOT have USA.

fwiw....
by hornbuilder
Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Advantages of wooden thumb rests
Replies: 8
Views: 992

Re: Advantages of wooden thumb rests

If you want to put one on, go for it. It will change the point where your thumb comes into contact with the lever, and thus your hand position, but that could be adjusted if needed. It doesn't change the way the horn plays at all.
by hornbuilder
Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: General Questions
Replies: 11
Views: 1014

Re: General Questions


1. $1000

2. Sure. No, you don't need a degree.
Curious as to where you came up that number?
by hornbuilder
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Oily bubble leak
Replies: 12
Views: 1467

Re: Oily bubble leak

A bubble at a solder joint indicates a leak.
by hornbuilder
Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Conn bass leadpipes
Replies: 7
Views: 1425

Re: Conn bass leadpipes

The C pipe is OK. The B and D are not great. IMO.
by hornbuilder
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Superfine Cases
Replies: 0
Views: 1204

Superfine Cases

Very Happy Customer Report. Ordered a black leather travel bag from Tom Rice, or "Greenbean" on the TChat, for a customer of mine from Spain, to go along with the instrument I had made for him. Communication was quick, service was fantastic, and the product more than met my expectations. I can highl...
by hornbuilder
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: Superfine Handcrafted Cases - SALE!
Replies: 54
Views: 7615

Re: Superfine Handcrafted Cases - SALE!

Very Happy Customer report here. Ordered a black leather travel bag for a client of mine in Spain, to go with the instrument I had made him. Tom was great to deal with, and the product was every bit as impressive, if not better, than I expected it would be. I can, without any hesitation, recommend S...
by hornbuilder
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach Artisan lever specs.
Replies: 0
Views: 358

Bach Artisan lever specs.

Question for the techs.

Looking for the diameter of the rod stock used on the Bach Artisan valve levers?

3/16"?

Thanks in advance.
by hornbuilder
Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Restringing a rotor: for dummies
Replies: 12
Views: 2668

Re: Restringing a rotor: for dummies

The lever arm is too far from the valve spindle. It really shouldn't be any further away than the thickness of the string. Have a tech adjust the lever, and then restring it.
by hornbuilder
Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Double trigger 71H
Replies: 8
Views: 2056

Re: Double trigger 71H

Yes. The problem with these horns is the length of the gooseneck. There really isn't enough room for a set of axials, of any brand. It is a tight squeeze for standard rotors as well, if you want to do it properly. Dependant is a much more sensible option, IMO.
by hornbuilder
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Slide dents: How’s it done?
Replies: 4
Views: 1726

Re: Slide dents: How’s it done?

Who owns the instruments you're working on? What level of repair are they expecting? Are they fine with you "practicing" on those instruments? Are they aware that your practice could lead to having to spend more money on replacement parts? Who would pay for those replacement parts if you make them u...
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: O. E. Thayer double valves help.
Replies: 12
Views: 2459

Re: O. E. Thayer double valves help.

Looks like you almost have a standard bass trombone valve section "kit" from Thayer. There are a few parts missing from what should be there (obviously) and there are numerous parts needed to build a complete valve section. Specific parts would be determined by the brand of horn these may be mounted...
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Nickel and yellow brass outers
Replies: 13
Views: 2305

Re: Nickel and yellow brass outers

Bach LT slides are, as stated above, all nickel from the factory. Regular slides are all yellow, with nickel sleeves. Yellow tubes with nickel crook, or nickel tubes with yellow crook would be special order from Bach, or aftermarket Yellow tube/nickel crook is the most commonly requested slide spec....
by hornbuilder
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Fun With Trombone Leadpipes and Trim Rings! Video
Replies: 14
Views: 3580

Re: Fun With Trombone Leadpipes and Trim Rings! Video

I had a Yamaha bass come through the shop to have the pipe pulled. It was a 2 piece pipe,cylindrical outside and very snug fit. It took a solid 3 hours just to get it out.
by hornbuilder
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: M&W Custom Small Bore Trombone Thoughts?
Replies: 33
Views: 3459

Re: M&W Custom Small Bore Trombone Thoughts?

Pianoman04

Yes, nickel slides in all the relevant bores are offered. Will make that correction to the website. Thanks for the heads-up.

🙂
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Leningrad Phil section circa 1960
Replies: 13
Views: 1476

Re: Leningrad Phil section circa 1960

these photos pre-date Herr Glassl's production
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: M&W Custom Small Bore Trombone Thoughts?
Replies: 33
Views: 3459

Re: M&W Custom Small Bore Trombone Thoughts?

I think it should be noted that Timbone works for Courtois, mentioned to provide full disclosure.

And yes, I am the owner/technician of M&W.
by hornbuilder
Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Screw bell buzzing
Replies: 10
Views: 1290

Re: Screw bell buzzing

Do not lubricate the screw threads. Grease will attract and hold dirt, and will eventually make the ring stick. It sounds like the screw ring installation could be the problem. Have a tech look at it.
by hornbuilder
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: How to make a valve? and a bell?
Replies: 20
Views: 3392

Re: How to make a valve? and a bell?

Cerrobend is the brand name of a low melting temperature metal alloy that is very useful for bending thin wall tubing. There are others, but the word Cerrobend has become synonymous with these types of materials. They are sold as ingots, and can be melted in a pan on a hotplate.
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

Scherzer piccolo are also very popular in Australia. One of the first that came into the country was imported by one of the players with the Sydney Symphony. The customs officers had no idea what a "piccolo trumpet" was, so the player proceeded to take it out of the case and play it. Blown away by h...
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

I have 2 vintage German instruments in my possession at present. A Scherzer and a Schopper. Both of which are all gold brass with nickel trim. Glorious instruments.
by hornbuilder
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

Brian, That is not a trend that I have noticed on German instruments. Much more common in my experience is to have the valve section material match the bell. For example, the Glassl contra that I played with the Australian Opera had gold brass bell, bell branch, and valve section tubing, yet the han...
by hornbuilder
Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Chrome Plating from Planet Nebtar
Replies: 11
Views: 1592

Re: Chrome Plating from Planet Nebtar

Use muriatic acid to remove chrome plate with no damage to the underlying material.

Why did you need to cut the stockings?
by hornbuilder
Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

To answer Tombone21. It all ultimately depends on the player, and the bell, but I would suggest a gold tube/nickel crook slide on a 2 piece yellow bell. But a yellow/nickel would also be a good choice.
by hornbuilder
Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Snake oil instead of good teaching?
Replies: 86
Views: 10343

Re: Snake oil instead of good teaching?

Back in the day, before all the small custom makers that we have today, and the internet, we bought what our teachers told us to buy, and learned how to play it. If you had problems, it came down to spending time in the practice room and working the issue out. Today, we have companies claiming that ...
by hornbuilder
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

Bimmerman, I've been playing on a bass slide for some time now that consists of gold brass tubes, with sleeves, and a yellow brass crook. The crook on this slide was made using original Reynolds tooling. The really interesting thing about this tooling/crook is it is virtually identical in shape/ dim...
by hornbuilder
Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons
Replies: 29
Views: 3095

Re: Classic Bach Trombone Comparisons

I owned a 1963 Mt Vernon 50B that was an absolute dog. It's nickname was "socks", because it played and sounded like it had a pair of socks stuffed down the bell. There was another Mt Vernon 50B in Sydney, infact the next sequential serial number. It was a fantastic horn. Lively, quick response, fab...
by hornbuilder
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:36 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tuning Slide - Sterling Silver, Nickel Silver, Silver Plated
Replies: 4
Views: 1130

Re: Tuning Slide - Sterling Silver, Nickel Silver, Silver Plated

The various materials used in instrument manufacture all have their own inherent acoustic qualities. (These have been discussed. The same effects are experienced, regardless of where on the instrument the material is changed) Changing a component will change the overall acoustics of the instrument, ...
by hornbuilder
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Hi from Wisconsin
Replies: 8
Views: 2393

Re: Hi from Wisconsin

M&W is also in WI.

FYI.

🙂
by hornbuilder
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:57 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: WTB: Conn 72H Case
Replies: 26
Views: 4843

Re: WTB: Conn 72H Case

Any French Bach 50 cases DJ??
by hornbuilder
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: SOLD—Beautiful Classic Bass Trombone Case
Replies: 13
Views: 2543

Re: Beautiful Classic Bass Trombone Case

I also sent you a PM. What would shipping be to 53037?
by hornbuilder
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: SOLD—Beautiful Classic Bass Trombone Case
Replies: 13
Views: 2543

Re: Beautiful Classic Bass Trombone Case

Is this still available??
by hornbuilder
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Charlie Vernon’s Tenor and Bass Equipment
Replies: 14
Views: 1710

Re: Charlie Vernon’s Tenor and Bass Equipment

The most recent Chicago Symphony Brass concert, Charlie's slide was most definitely NOT an Edwards. There was no question that it was a Bach made slide. It was all yellow brass, and had no sleeves, but did have a soldered in pipe. My understanding is Bach made some dual bore slides for him a few yea...
by hornbuilder
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Satin finish using sandblasting
Replies: 12
Views: 1054

Re: Satin finish using sandblasting

The old silver plated Conns were media blasted, with the shiny parts being masked during the blasting. They were then plated. Either media blast or "scratch" finishes are governed by the aggressiveness of the media being used. It is possible to do very fine, "bright" finishes, as well as very heavy,...
by hornbuilder
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Satin finish using sandblasting
Replies: 12
Views: 1054

Re: Satin finish using sandblasting

Be aware that air pressure needs to be "much" lower than would be used on a car part. It is very easy to deform a bell with a high pressure media blast gun. Agree with he above, a finer "grit" will give a cleaner look. Having the horn relaquered or plated would help keep it looking good. Blasting gi...
by hornbuilder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: What does a ultrasonic machine do?
Replies: 32
Views: 4009

Re: What does a ultrasonic machine do?

The bubble size we're talking about here is microscopic. You can't see them with the naked eye (or with something like an optivisor) There is no possible harm to a brass instrument in using ultrasonic cleaners. (Unless there is already a bad case of dezincification. Then it is a toss up) Ultrasonics...
by hornbuilder
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: What does a ultrasonic machine do?
Replies: 32
Views: 4009

Re: What does a ultrasonic machine do?

As I mentioned above, you need to use the correct solution to get the best results. Detergent won't do much at all on limescale. Now, if he had an acidic solution in the tank, he would have had "some" more luck. Realizing there are several different compounds that need to be cleaned out from inside ...
by hornbuilder
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:12 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: What does a ultrasonic machine do?
Replies: 32
Views: 4009

Re: What does a ultrasonic machine do?

PS. The tingling you feel when you submerge your hand in the ultrasonic machine is that same cavitation happening in your tissues. FYI
by hornbuilder
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:09 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: What does a ultrasonic machine do?
Replies: 32
Views: 4009

Re: What does a ultrasonic machine do?

Timothy is correct. The ultrasonic sound waves create vacuum bubbles in the solution. The formation and collapse of those bubbles creates a scrubbing action, and anything in contact with the solution will be "scrubbed". It is important to realise that ulyrasonics by themselves (ie, if you just have ...
by hornbuilder
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Corp 36 trigger weird?
Replies: 31
Views: 2732

Re: Corp 36 trigger weird?

That is valve lever is normal for a very early Elkhart instrument. It isn't weird in any way. They were the same parts as used in NY and Mt Vernon.
by hornbuilder
Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:34 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Thread for 88h rotor
Replies: 5
Views: 2182

Re: Thread for 88h rotor

You said you had to tap the spindle hard. What did you use? If you don't have one, go to the hardware store and buy a small raw hide mallet. One with a head @1" diameter would be fine. Never use anything harder than that to remove the rotor. The raw hide will provide the force required to remove the...
by hornbuilder
Tue May 26, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olds fluted tubes
Replies: 16
Views: 1801

Re: Olds fluted tubes

Stripping and re plating is certainly do-able. It depends on how badly pitted the tube is, since plating doesn't actually "fill" pits, as to how successful it may be.

I know where the Olds tooling is, so making new flutes tubes is also possible.
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