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by brtnats
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:24 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece
Replies: 20
Views: 1346

Re: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece

When this is done we’re gonna need a video.
by brtnats
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:04 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece
Replies: 20
Views: 1346

Re: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece

The Chasons/Pickett Wycliffe model is only trumpet, but Chasons also makes their own model that has interchangeable shanks. I actually have a medium size with the trumpet and horn shanks in essentially new condition. I picked it up a bit before the quarantine hit and never had much of a chance to u...
by brtnats
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece
Replies: 20
Views: 1346

Re: WTB/WTT: Large HORN Mouthpiece

You may want to try Chasons. You can get a trombone rim with an appropriate shank, cup, and backbore for trumpet, cornet, or horn.
by brtnats
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Use of plug-in valve
Replies: 30
Views: 2276

Re: Use of plug-in valve

I take my D valve off if I’m not going to need it for a while. That usually means a set-repertoire tour. I think the horn responds faster as a single, it’s got a good low C, and it’s a lot of fun to play that way. There absolutely is a difference; you can feel it. I’m not convinced the audience can ...
by brtnats
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Air exiting bell
Replies: 55
Views: 3433

Re: Air exiting bell

..."(in addition to frequent hand hygiene, environmental cleaning, and optimizing indoor ventilation)."... Handwashing surely is good, but I wonder why gloves have not become popular. When I have my gloves on, I know for sure I have not gotten something on my hands, and I cannot inadvertently pick ...
by brtnats
Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What is your protip for buying a trombone.
Replies: 30
Views: 2389

Re: What is your protip for buying a trombone.

Just my opinion, but I’d spend more time developing sound concepts than trying equipment. If that concept is locked in, you’ll be able to judge pretty quickly whether or not a piece of equipment gets you closer or further from that goal.
by brtnats
Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:14 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Sauer and Alessi
Replies: 60
Views: 4111

Re: Sauer and Alessi

Well, can't we talk about attack from a musical point of view ??? As a reader, this thread gets way more interesting when we talk music. Your Sulek example Gabe... Ralph recorded that more than 40 years ago, so tonally it is a child of the recording technology of the time. Although I could not see ...
by brtnats
Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Max: The part you’re missing is that there is a totally legitimate argument to be had for reclaiming music with racist roots. It’s not my argument; it’s been elaborated on in scholarly and popular writing about minstrelsy for decades. Here is the briefest of examples if you care to read it: https://...
by brtnats
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

I feel like people get their feelings hurt if every single forum member doesn't proclaim them wonderful for being woke enough to recognize Lassus has a bad past. And those hurt feelings are the driver of most of the flame on this thread. Seriously, Tim? That's the driver of the flame on this thread...
by brtnats
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Redthunder wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:55 am
Lol, “kid”.

Tell me more about how rude Brad is.
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Profile says you’re 27. Public profiles agree. I have tools as old as you.
by brtnats
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

I was done arguing with you, kid. But while we’re at it...

A white guy from Philadelphia doesn’t get to be the arbiter of what’s racist either. He certainly doesn’t get a free pass to explain racism to a British POC. Check your privilege.
by brtnats
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:31 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

You know, I'm really sick to death of people who have done nothing, criticizing a person who has at least done something , for not doing enough. I can’t not respond to the unbound pretentiousness you’re displaying. Your Pelosi clapback was rude for this forum, but this is beyond that. You cannot po...
by brtnats
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Charlie Vernon’s Tenor and Bass Equipment
Replies: 14
Views: 1318

Re: Charlie Vernon’s Tenor and Bass Equipment

I don't know if Steve Shires had ever done that before, but the first one I ever saw was the one built for Charlie to try. It was certainly Steve's idea. I still want to try a TruBore section built that way. But $$$. I wonder how much of that was influenced by Friedman’s preferences for lighter equ...
by brtnats
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:15 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Sauer and Alessi
Replies: 60
Views: 4111

Re: Sauer and Alessi

Ralph Sauer on LP with *really good headphones* is one of they most amazing sounds in the world.
by brtnats
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Bruce, brtnats et al: Doug Yeo is suggesting this is offensive to play this piece of music to black folks. He is correct. If that makes you invoke Nazi Germany then I really, really think you need to question your knowledge of racial history in this country. There is a lot more I could say to expre...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Sigh. Ok man. I’ll bite. I don’t think I said any of that. If you want to put words in my mouth, please listen to the ones I’m saying first. The titles of the pieces are racist. They were changed. The marketing was racist. It was dropped. The actual content of the music? Crappy character pieces tha...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:55 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

The "marketing" was driven by Fillmore Music House. As in Henry Fillmore. You're gonna sit here and write about how it's the publisher's fault, and that Henry Fillmore had no role in it with a straight face. Bad argument. Maybe I wouldn't be throwing "whataboutism all over the place" if you weren't...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Not "unwoke," Bruce, very actively racist. What is the obsession with downplaying the actual racist content in this music? Paul, I have an immense amount of respect for you, but that’s the part you’re not hearing. The actual music doesn’t have any racist content. The titles used to. The marketing d...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

[*] And if the Weimar regime had cracked down on anti-semitism and fascism? Then the discussion of those traditions would be very different! I’m not at all against talking about racism in music, and I totally agree with Tim above, that there’s a lot of elitism built in. But I don’t understand, funct...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

It is NOT courageous to come down against “Lassus Trombone,” a novelty piece by a 3rd-tier composer.... Courage would be coming down against .... Courage would be a long hard look at academia that perpetuates this. What signal is the defence of this piece sending about the perpetuation of all the t...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Can we cut to the chase about this? Some of you think that the history of this song is not a good reason to stop performing it. Fine, that's your opinion, and clearly we all see this differently. But can some of you please stop cloaking your disagreement in other reasons? Trying to "well ack-shuall...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Yeah, it is ridiculous. It’s ridiculous that you are being so incredibly presumptuous. For starters, none of the Black artists I’ve spoken with would presume to speak for the entire Black community. Their opinions have been far more nuanced than the hammer you’re currently wielding. If you find your...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

I want to reiterate that I have no problem at all with a person saying they don’t want to perform this piece. I have real problems with telling someone else not to perform it, and that is what we are debating. Nah, that's what you are debating, and it's a sideshow. I'm tired of being compared to th...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Thank you those of you have spoken up against this piece. This is the type of courageous conversations that must occur if we are ever to overcome the grip institutional racism has on our country. I think this is a complex issue that has more than one possible viewpoint. I see some of you violently ...
by brtnats
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

I'm ok with tossing out Jingle Bells, too. No problems there. So why are you ok insisting that people who have looked at the same information and drawn different conclusions need to conform to your cancellation? I have no objection to someone refusing to perform a piece because they found it object...
by brtnats
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

Our understanding of it was clouded, the context lost (whether on purpose or not) to time. Now that we know it... I can't be comfortable performing it or listening to it. I'm sure others would feel the same. I don't think anyone will argue against many composers having darkness to their lives in on...
by brtnats
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 316
Views: 16329

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

@Gabe and Aidan, I don’t normally indulge in slippery slope, but I’m having a hard time with this one. I will concede the piece is not a masterwork of the Western canon. I will concede that Fillmore as a composer is not spoken of in the same breadth as Wagner. But I will not accept the esthetic opin...
by brtnats
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:32 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: If you slowly replace the parts of your Shires trombone...
Replies: 12
Views: 1016

Re: If you slowly replace the parts of your Shires trombone...

There was a guy who gradually kept switching the parts out on his trombone. In the end, he sounded just as bad as when he started, so clearly it was the same trombone no matter what he switched out. (If you haven't realized this tangent is completely tongue in cheek yet) Help! Moderators! I'm in th...
by brtnats
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Yikes
Replies: 301
Views: 13932

Re: Yikes

The point is you can be racist but not behave in a racist fashion. As long as you don't harm anybody then I see no problem. It really isn't that hard to do. In fact we do i all the time. No you can’t. Racism is defined as consistently committing racist ACTS. When you do/say/think something racist, ...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: Assorted tenor/bass pieces UPDATED
Replies: 7
Views: 1159

Re: FS: Assorted tenor/bass pieces

PM sent.
by brtnats
Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: Doug Elliott XB mouthpiece
Replies: 7
Views: 973

Re: FS: Doug Elliott XB mouthpiece

PM sent.
by brtnats
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Yikes
Replies: 301
Views: 13932

Re: Yikes

@Rob: Pretty much verbatim what my wife said last night. Great minds...
by brtnats
Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Yikes
Replies: 301
Views: 13932

Re: Yikes

I don't think second chances ever apply to racism or sexual harassment.... At least not so immediately after the infraction. BOOM. Another winner. Employers CANNOT TAKE THE CHANCE on employees who commit racial or sexual violations of their TOE. Just, full stop. You two guys arguing that she needs ...
by brtnats
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:53 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Yikes
Replies: 301
Views: 13932

Re: Yikes

I am a teacher, I tell my students all the time, "Just because you think it doesn't mean you have to say it." I also tell them, “you don't have to like everyone, but you do have to get along" Absolutely nailed it. Privilege protects racism. Having a racist thought does not mean you must engage in a...
by brtnats
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:47 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Yikes
Replies: 301
Views: 13932

Re: Yikes

TLDR....sorry if this popped up after page 3. Some of you guys are missing the forest for the trees. 1. There’s no “due process” for anything other than legal proceedings. If the union was on board with this, then everybody who matters got a voice. And yes, I’m saying the individual in question did ...
by brtnats
Wed May 27, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Suggestions of what to play during lockdown
Replies: 12
Views: 863

Re: Suggestions of what to play during lockdown

+1 on a Realbook. I’ve spent a lot of time the past 2 months just learning tunes.
by brtnats
Tue May 19, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha Indy Basses - YBL-613h or YBL-830
Replies: 11
Views: 849

Re: Yamaha Indy Basses - YBL-613h or YBL-830

I played a Chinese copy of a 613H for about 10 years that came with both tuning slides. I eventually switched to a dependent (822G—I’m with you on a Yamaha). If I was buying an independent, I’d be looking for a 613H with both slides. I wouldn’t worry about the heavy bell. My Xeno bell is marketed as...
by brtnats
Wed May 06, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Elkhart 79H
Replies: 8
Views: 866

Re: Elkhart 79H

You wouldn’t have found it if you weren’t at least looking...

Destiny is calling you Paul.
by brtnats
Wed May 06, 2020 5:59 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: V shape vs. Cup
Replies: 9
Views: 1184

Re: V shape vs. Cup


Someone has been watching too much TwoSet.
No such thing.

And trombonists have been terrorizing the violas much longer than TwoSet.
by brtnats
Mon May 04, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Nils Landgren
Replies: 10
Views: 1486

Re: Nils Landgren

I wish I had ears like you..... It’s not my ears, it’s my experience! I play a Landgren on a Yamaha .508 with an 8” bell, and I played it for a time on a .500/.525 Yamaha with an 8” bell. I never understood how Landgren himself could blow that setup with that much focus as quietly as he does. I fig...
by brtnats
Sun May 03, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Nils Landgren
Replies: 10
Views: 1486

Re: Nils Landgren

I’d heard it was an 8” bell. Very interesting to hear that it’s 7.5. That explains a lot about his sound to me.
by brtnats
Sat May 02, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: In a rut ???
Replies: 41
Views: 4492

Re: In a rut ???

Edward: You are a wonderful scholar of the trombone who has, on occasion, a tendency to miss the forest because of the trees. As noted above, the G bass was used from 1820-1970. How much of the standard repertoire does that cover? And what was the status of the bass trombone in the rest of Europe or...
by brtnats
Fri May 01, 2020 7:19 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: In a rut ???
Replies: 41
Views: 4492

Re: In a rut ???

With all the respect and love in the world, isn’t part of this just “being British?” Follow me before you throw tomatoes. The British, and before them the English, have an incredibly long musical history of being contrary. They way they experimented with harmony in the Middle Ages was contrary. Thei...
by brtnats
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Options for new manufacture single rotor bass
Replies: 28
Views: 1870

Re: Options for new manufacture single rotor bass

822G with both slides pulled gets very close. I think it’s the horn you want anyway. Good middle of the road, easy to find, plays great as a single with a removable dependent valve just in case.
by brtnats
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Big horn or Little horn?
Replies: 21
Views: 2851

Re: Big horn or Little horn?

Yes. I left the .547 at school and brought the .508 and bass home.
by brtnats
Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cutting down a tenor to make an alto
Replies: 16
Views: 1007

Re: Cutting down a tenor to make an alto

Not for nothing, but I *think* that some Conn Altos share the flare tooling with the 2H size tenor. But the bends are unique, IIRC. Cheers, Andy Andy, I think you’re right. One look at the current Conn altos will tell you their profile has a lot more in common with a 72H bass than an 88H tenor. The...
by brtnats
Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: John Packer JP138 Bb/C
Replies: 8
Views: 739

Re: John Packer JP138 Bb/C

I’ve never played one, but I’d LOVE to hear what you have to say. I’ve been eyeballing them for years.
by brtnats
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: 1939 Conn 32H Burkle
Replies: 8
Views: 1236

Re: 1939 Conn 32H Burkle

Travis,

I’m gonna need you to sell this horn so that I don’t have to buy it. Please hurry.
by brtnats
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily
Replies: 61
Views: 7456

Re: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily

I play trumpet, small tenor, large tenor, bass, and Eb tuba. I play different rims on each, although I do use compromise mouthpieces on trumpet and tuba. I don’t know that I “double.” I DO play whatever instrument I’m using as cleanly, efficiently, and musically as possible. And I accept the fact th...
by brtnats
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: In defense of Yamaha
Replies: 70
Views: 7783

Re: In defense of Yamaha

My 822G will make it to E with both slides pulled.

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