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by brtnats
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doubling on Tuba: Instrument Choice
Replies: 26
Views: 676

Re: Doubling on Tuba: Instrument Choice

I’ve never gotten along with a BBb, but 15 minutes into playing a Conn 14J Eb that I bought off the forum, I had access to the whole range from :bassclef: :line2: 16vb to :trebleclef: :line2: , including some VERY fine false tones connecting the first partial and pedal registers. I’m playing it with...
by brtnats
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB F tuba MP
Replies: 5
Views: 110

Re: WTB F tuba MP

Small or large shank? Kelly makes several plastics that would be good places to start, and are relatively inexpensive.
by brtnats
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Which trumpet mouthpiece to play
Replies: 12
Views: 292

Re: Which trumpet mouthpiece to play

My main tenor is a Yamaha .508 with roughly a 6 3/4. I play trumpet regularly on a silver plated Yamaha Japan 232S, which is a quality horn marketed as a student instrument in America. I use a Chasons hybrid mouthpiece, which I’ve written about elsewhere here. If you can figure out what you need to ...
by brtnats
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design
Replies: 15
Views: 721

Re: WTB: Good Alto with Flexible Trigger Design

The yamaha one was a prototype. Great idea, but I think Ian Bousfield still has it. Rath might also make one like this. What did you end up getting? I think the Bb slide on that Yamaha is just a longer tuning slide to plug into their existing trill-valve. Somebody else (Elliot Chasanov? Larry Zalki...
by brtnats
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Wycliffe Crossover MP
Replies: 18
Views: 834

Re: Wycliffe Crossover MP

Here’s what I would contend: If you can play trumpet AND trombone, at a gig, well on completely different mouthpieces, then by all means do so. If you can switch seamlessly between a 6.5 sized rim and a 3C trumpet rim, do it. The hybrid mouthpiece isn’t for you. It IS for people like me, who need to...
by brtnats
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Wycliffe Crossover MP
Replies: 18
Views: 834

Re: Wycliffe Crossover MP

I’ve got one and I love it. Your mileage may vary. It’s not a magic bullet; you’ll still have to work to build the muscles for a trumpet embouchure. But, it lets me switch seamlessly. Once I dialed in the air and the aperture, I can just pick up the trumpet and play. Current range stops at a high C,...
by brtnats
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R
Replies: 25
Views: 816

Re: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R

brtnats wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:41 pm
I’ve got a 448 in my classroom. I’ll check Monday, but I’m fairly sure it’s a 1-piece bell.
Looks like my 448 is a one piece, gold brass bell. If it’s 2 pieces, the seam lines are absolutely invisible.
by brtnats
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R
Replies: 25
Views: 816

Re: Yamaha YSL-448G vs YSL-648R

I’ve got a 448 in my classroom. I’ll check Monday, but I’m fairly sure it’s a 1-piece bell.
by brtnats
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Strangest gigs
Replies: 47
Views: 2063

Re: Strangest gigs

Ska band gig at a punk rock festival outside at midnight, the week of Halloween, with a giant Satan head printed on a sign behind me. Very very trippy.
by brtnats
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:47 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: iReal Pro
Replies: 18
Views: 1859

Re: iReal Pro

On my iPad Pro, I run iReal Pro as a small side window and a Realbook in Forescore in the main window. I play it all through a bluetooth speaker. That way I've got written tune for the head, and the changes playing on the side. iPad also lets iReal Pro run audio in the background. I can't overstate ...
by brtnats
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:43 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 95
Views: 4222

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

I do not. My bass (Yamaha 822G) responds better with a larger mouthpiece, so that’s what I use. I keep a 1.5G size in the case to use when the situation allows, but I’m often reaching for that larger mouthpiece. You are right... the modern Yamahas were developed with big mouthpieces and sound thin ...
by brtnats
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 95
Views: 4222

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

I do not. My bass (Yamaha 822G) responds better with a larger mouthpiece, so that’s what I use. I keep a 1.5G size in the case to use when the situation allows, but I’m often reaching for that larger mouthpiece.
by brtnats
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: WI, where can I find work?
Replies: 12
Views: 1456

Re: WI, where can I find work?

Find, join, and play for free with at least 2 community bands or orchestras in the area. Take any single part they hand you. Stay for a year, get to know the people around you and the director, and SHOW THOSE PEOPLE you can play at a high level. The calls will start to come in after that. You’ve got...
by brtnats
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:32 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone and Eb tuba
Replies: 13
Views: 1035

Re: Bass trombone and Eb tuba

Many years ago, I played on a Marcinkiewicz 105. Yes, it’s very much like a small tuba mouthpiece. I think the point of Kleinhammer’s story was that musicians sometimes have to go to extremes to achieve the desired effect. In the example he writes about, he used an Eb tuba mouthpiece for pedal tone...
by brtnats
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Upper range limit - how much patience do I need?
Replies: 23
Views: 1289

Re: Upper range limit - how much patience do I need?

Your range building is totally in line with the amount you’re practicing. If you want more/better/easier, you need to find a way to practice more. A practice mute might be very useful, as the added backpressure can help with high register development. But really, at 15-20 minutes a day, I wouldn’t e...
by brtnats
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Doubling: large tenor mpc and small bass mpc
Replies: 17
Views: 902

Re: Doubling: large tenor mpc and small bass mpc

I tried the similar rims concept, and it just did not suit me. I have much better luck with a larger bass mouthpiece and a medium sized-tenor mouthpiece. I’ve honestly come to believe that the most critical thing about doubling effectively is finding two instruments that “line up” similarly. I can’t...
by brtnats
Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:44 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3312

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

I can’t speak to the ENTIRETY of the horn repertoire, but I remember from horn lessons 15 years ago that horns still have a chromatic gap between their 2nd partial and their fundamentals if they’ve only got 3 valves. All brass instruments do that only have 3 valves. The double wrap on the horn is as...
by brtnats
Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3312

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Tangent: I’m playing in a reading band this summer. We read a piece last week that included BOTH parts for “Trombone in Bb” and “Trombone in C.” Same part, both in bass clef, one for a non-transporting instrument and one for a transporting instrument. Ditto “Euphonium in C” and “Euphonium in Bb” (bo...
by brtnats
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:12 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3312

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Yes a bass trombone can cover a big register and could play all those parts. What about the sound? To me the alto, tenor, bass and contra are different sounds and then the instrument to use matters a lot. A smooth ballad in the tenor/alto register needs a tenor and if you want it played like Bill W...
by brtnats
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3312

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Back to the original point, and not the early music digression, the modern bass trombone is special. I can think of no other instrument called to perform so many roles and functions as a bass trombone, and for that reason alone it deserves special attention as more than an enlarged tenor trombone. T...
by brtnats
Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:05 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Inner tube replacements Conn 30H and 32H
Replies: 7
Views: 546

Re: Inner tube replacements Conn 30H and 32H

I can’t speak to the 30H, but the 32H .522 leg is notoriously difficult to replace. My guess is that if you’ve gotten .508/.525 inners to fit, it says more about some slop in the outers than it does about viable replacement parts. I’m betting the outers have been down by .008 inches.
by brtnats
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 2B sound concept, but on bass
Replies: 18
Views: 1162

Re: 2B sound concept, but on bass

The only way to do that is either massive amounts of directed practice time to build physical strength or scale down the equipment somewhat. I just don't have that kind of time to devote to bass. It's really hard to play a bass even like a big tenor in the low range. It's a great sentiment, but rea...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 2B sound concept, but on bass
Replies: 18
Views: 1162

Re: 2B sound concept, but on bass

It seems like so much we do on bass is physicality, where on small tenor it’s finesse. While the size of the instrument definitely makes a difference, I really think approach is more of the key. How did George Roberts play, relatively, the same size instrument as Edward Kleinhammer, and got complete...
by brtnats
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 2B sound concept, but on bass
Replies: 18
Views: 1162

Re: 2B sound concept, but on bass

I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately. I recently switched my “warmup horn” to my .508 tenor instead of my bass, since I’m playing a lot more jazz gigs lately and I want to really hone in on the smaller aperature size. The net result is that I’m playing my bass (822G with a Yeo mp) with a lot m...
by brtnats
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: Flic button?
Replies: 6
Views: 542

Flic button?

Anybody use a Flic button in conjunction with a music app as a page turner? I saw someone recently on FB that had one mounted to their trombone to turn pages and i think it’s an interesting idea. Any experience out there?

~B
by brtnats
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Rolling Thunder March
Replies: 8
Views: 554

Re: Rolling Thunder March

I’ve played it a few times. There are 3 parts, but the hard licks are all in unison.

This is the piece of music I had to learn double tonguing to play as a teenager. It’s a great workout for a trombone section.
by brtnats
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:59 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone and Eb tuba
Replies: 13
Views: 1035

Bass trombone and Eb tuba

(This may need to be moved to History, but Mouthpieces seemed like a good place to start.) There’s a thread in the old form archives talking about Edward Kleinhammer and his Eb tuba mouthpiece that he described in The Art of Trombone Playing . Seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence flying around th...
by brtnats
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:56 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Who is Sousa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1746

Re: Who is Sousa?

I’m really glad you posted this. 600 kids at my school will know who Sousa is now, because you reminded me that sometimes we take our “common” knowledge for granted. I really mean it: Thank you.
by brtnats
Thu May 23, 2019 4:25 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Jazz vs Symphonic
Replies: 15
Views: 1456

Re: Bass Trombone - Jazz vs Symphonic

I think this is really interesting, because it cuts right to the heart of the problem (and opportunities) of the bass trombonist: This instrument is a utility position that fills multiple roles with a single player. A modern bass trombone has to reasonably be able to play parts written for: Bb tenor...
by brtnats
Wed May 22, 2019 4:42 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Yamaha 356R, 353OR, and 646
Replies: 8
Views: 655

Re: FS: Yamaha 356R, 353OR, and 646

I've always been curious about the 356R vs the 646. Is there that big of a difference between the two? Obviously one is rose brass with an 8" and the other is 8.5" yellow. And of course there's the dual bore vs .525 straight/single (?) bore. Both of these horns have intrigued me so much. And I've b...
by brtnats
Sat May 18, 2019 5:22 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Something 1.5Gish (for King Duo Gravis)
Replies: 9
Views: 571

Re: WTB: Something 1.5Gish (for King Duo Gravis)

I’ve got a Yamaha 59L (their 1 1/2) that I’ll give you for the cost of shipping.

(Edited to correct the Yamaha number)
by brtnats
Fri May 17, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Switching between bass and small tenor
Replies: 51
Views: 2582

Re: Switching between bass and small tenor

I do this switch all the time the hard way: I practice it. I play bass in a big concert band, sub in big bands, play with chamber groups. I play a .508 tenor in a ska band, Dixieland band, pit orchestras, church gigs. I tried the one-rim-for-all approach, and for me that didn’t do it. I can’t play a...
by brtnats
Thu May 16, 2019 5:04 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is .547 a catch-all?
Replies: 33
Views: 1860

Re: Is .547 a catch-all?

I still think having a good large tenor is pretty essential for a professional. Essential for sure. But apparently not a "catch-all" for the versatility required of most modern pro trombonists. I am NOT a professional, but I play a lot - and no longer very much on my beloved 88H! :( And this is wha...
by brtnats
Thu May 16, 2019 5:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone with boring and bell size of a tenor?
Replies: 16
Views: 1062

Re: Bass Trombone with boring and bell size of a tenor?

You don’t care for the sound because they’re “too open for you.” You’re not getting enough compression in your horn for the tone to develop properly. Rather than ripping apart tenors hoping for solutions, start with your own bass. If the horn is too open, try a mouthpiece that’s a little smaller wit...
by brtnats
Tue May 14, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Switching between bass and small tenor
Replies: 51
Views: 2582

Re: Switching between bass and small tenor

What is it about the L that you don't like? Do you consider it to be small? It's the largest thing I use. The L has a wide rim. Wide or narrow doesn't seem to bother me, although I've read that other people are sensitive to that difference. My 1.25G has a narrow rim. I like both, but the L has a be...
by brtnats
Mon May 13, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Switching between bass and small tenor
Replies: 51
Views: 2582

Re: Switching between bass and small tenor

It's not magic, not an illusion, and I didn't really believe it at first, but it works. I'm not a particularly gifted player, and not a remedial case either. I've seen other people do crazy switching that I know I couldn't do without Doug's approach. I'm able to put together DE mouthpieces that wor...
by brtnats
Mon May 13, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Switching between bass and small tenor
Replies: 51
Views: 2582

Re: Switching between bass and small tenor

Yo Red, whether or not it’s intentional, you’re coming off as extremely aggressive and contentious in this thread. Take a breather.
by brtnats
Sun May 12, 2019 4:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is .547 a catch-all?
Replies: 33
Views: 1860

Is .547 a catch-all?

There were a multitude of threads on the old TTF about .525 horns as chameleons in most situations. I remember there were basically 2 schools of thought: “Yes they are” and “Use the right tool for the job.” I attended a show last night where the reduced pit had 1 trombone and 1 trumpet, and the trom...
by brtnats
Sat May 04, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Current manufacture single valve bass bones
Replies: 29
Views: 1522

Re: Current manufacture single valve bass bones

Yamaha 822G. Dependent or single valve. Easily converts between the 2.
by brtnats
Fri May 03, 2019 4:24 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B vs 3BSS
Replies: 39
Views: 2602

Re: 3B vs 3BSS

Burgerbob wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 11:43 pm
That's the plan for the future! If I can get away with it, I won't buy anything else.*



*famous last words
(6 months, tops)

:pant:
by brtnats
Thu May 02, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Dropping Bombs
Replies: 43
Views: 2414

Re: Dropping Bombs

Sammy Nestico does this in a lot of his arrangements. It’s often a pedal tone, accented sfz, during an ensemble rest at the end of a phrase. I wouldn’t call it a bomb, but Denny Sefried from the old TTF called them “depth charges.” What’s all this talk about adolescence about? If Sammy Nestico wants...
by brtnats
Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:27 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Pit Recommendations?
Replies: 9
Views: 824

Re: Pit Recommendations?

Bass trombone + tuba will get you really really far, but you’ll need a bass sound that can get light or heavy depending on what’s in front of you. Often if you’re playing a reduction, you’ll be the only trombonist. Most times I see 1 trombone in a pit, it’s a bass covering the whole range of the ins...
by brtnats
Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B vs 3BSS
Replies: 39
Views: 2602

Re: 3B vs 3BSS

@jthomas: I would say that a SS 2B is a completely different beast than a 3B @Finetales: Exactly. I’m a nobody, but I gig a lot, and belting out choruses in Dixieland, ska, and Latin was a lot more difficult with a 3BSS. I attributed that to the front-heaviness, but you’re also totally right; the br...
by brtnats
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:25 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Finding the custom horn for me
Replies: 88
Views: 4594

Re: Finding the custom horn for me

I find it regrettable that you comprehend so little of what I am saying. I have the highest regard for young people who wish to study music in general, and the trombone in particular. Far from wishing to devalue them, I wish to offer them advice that will allow best use of the time they devote to s...
by brtnats
Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B vs 3BSS
Replies: 39
Views: 2602

Re: 3B vs 3BSS

It wasn’t the weight, actually. It was the distribution of weight. Bell heavy horns just don’t sit well with me. I got tired of keeping the bell up.
by brtnats
Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B vs 3BSS
Replies: 39
Views: 2602

Re: 3B vs 3BSS

Yes. That bell gets heavy on long gigs. All the sound in the world doesn’t help you if you’re too fatigued to play it.
by brtnats
Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Yamaha Al Kay
Replies: 0
Views: 151

WTB: Yamaha Al Kay

I’m looking for a Yamaha Al Kay MP, either replica or signature. PM or email and let’s work it out!
by brtnats
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Finding the custom horn for me
Replies: 88
Views: 4594

Re: Finding the custom horn for me

Wow This right here is why almost every professional player left TTF (Doug Yeo, Sam Burtis, Ralph Sauer, etc). The internet can give solid advice from Chris Stearn, one of the finest trombonists alive on the planet, and juxtapose it with some guy who calls a big Eb-alto trombone a bass, and make th...
by brtnats
Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Finding the custom horn for me
Replies: 88
Views: 4594

Re: Finding the custom horn for me

There’s no such thing as perfect. To see proof of that just look at the top tier pros in your desired field and look at how often they make either major or minor changes. To even remotely think you could pick a perfect horn for your future, as a college freshman, is so loaded with hubris that I don’...
by brtnats
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: LI Brass Co Baritone Trombone
Replies: 10
Views: 735

Re: LI Brass Co Baritone Trombone

hyperbolica wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:48 pm
Isn't it more correctly named a contralto?

And just to be clear, this is used, right?
Oh for God’s sake don’t get him started again. :weep:

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