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by Burgerbob
Thu May 13, 2021 6:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?
Replies: 41
Views: 2073

Re: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?

There's 3 modular makers (Bach Artisan, Shires, Edwards) and three boutique fixed makers (Schilke Greenhoe, M&W, BAC) plus a smattering of euro brands. Surely there's not enough market share to go around. This feels like a passion project for a Conn-selmer executive there is no way they are going t...
by Burgerbob
Wed May 12, 2021 1:19 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Slide/bell angles
Replies: 9
Views: 243

Re: Slide/bell angles

For no good reason other than aesthetics, I use a 90 degree angle on all trombones.
by Burgerbob
Tue May 11, 2021 11:07 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Brian Hecht switches to Dallas Symphony
Replies: 8
Views: 364

Re: Brian Hecht switches to Dallas Symphony

Similar to associate principal, bit different job description. You play all the weird stuff, fill in on any chair.
by Burgerbob
Tue May 11, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tyrell #4 Question
Replies: 2
Views: 102

Re: Tyrell #4 Question

I think it's just written half value of what it should be. Half note and quarter note under a triplet heading is what I play.
by Burgerbob
Sun May 09, 2021 7:13 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: M&W Horns?
Replies: 24
Views: 1530

Re: M&W Horns?

I played them at ITF 2017. They seemed very well made. My impressions at the time were the same as Harrison's... nothing bad, but nothing that inspired me. I'd love to play them again now.
by Burgerbob
Sun May 09, 2021 2:06 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Hagmann Valves on Edwards Bass
Replies: 6
Views: 316

Re: Hagmann Valves on Edwards Bass

Samdance wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 12:06 pm


I have never seen one either, but the edwards is very close to a Bach 50 so I cannot imagine it not working.
Edwards are much larger in the tuning slide and beginning of the bell than almost anything out there (including 50s). Hagmanns were developed with smaller horns in mind, I think.
by Burgerbob
Sat May 08, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Legato Tonguing always or nah?
Replies: 24
Views: 837

Re: Legato Tonguing always or nah?

I practice things both ways, but usually end up with a blend.
by Burgerbob
Fri May 07, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bonna hybrid vs. Bonna Bass vs. Superfine
Replies: 4
Views: 278

Re: Bonna hybrid vs. Bonna Bass vs. Superfine

If it's overall use, the MB bass case.

I personally use a Superfine Touring bag for everyday use and an MB screwbell case for traveling, but I have cut bells and it's possible for me. Before that, I used an MB bass case full time for a few years.
by Burgerbob
Thu May 06, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?
Replies: 41
Views: 2073

Re: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?

The 47 bell flare is a custom flare, modeled after a Mt Vernon 42 with a bit narrower bell throat, different thickness profile, and a French bead. It's not something they had lying around. The new 88 bell compatibility is just them trying to compete with the boutiques. You can mix and match the "Ba...
by Burgerbob
Wed May 05, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?
Replies: 41
Views: 2073

Re: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?

TheBoneRanger wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:23 pm
When are the 50’s going to get some love?

Andrew
I think they are so much lower volume than the 42s that it's pretty far down the order. I'd love to see a HUGE streamlining of that particular model range...
by Burgerbob
Wed May 05, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?
Replies: 41
Views: 2073

Re: Bach Steiner horn has arrived?

The 47 bell flare is a custom flare, modeled after a Mt Vernon 42 with a bit narrower bell throat, different thickness profile, and a French bead. It's not something they had lying around. The new 88 bell compatibility is just them trying to compete with the boutiques. You can mix and match the "Bac...
by Burgerbob
Sun May 02, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Independent Bass Trombone Tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 1071

Re: Independent Bass Trombone Tuning

I am curious, are there any opinions om the equivalent of the german contra bass trombone tuning F/D/Bb/Ab which on a bass bone would be Bb/G/Eb/Db ??? Thi system seem to work well for contra, at least for half of the players, so why not on bass? Contra is a different beast with long and missing sl...
by Burgerbob
Sat May 01, 2021 3:10 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: 1961 Conn 88H on eBay?
Replies: 7
Views: 355

Re: 1961 Conn 88H on eBay?

The horn pictured is a '90s horn. Not open wrap, not a '61.
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:50 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Bach 42BOF Valve Bumpers
Replies: 3
Views: 199

Re: Bach 42BOF Valve Bumpers

I don't think the stock Bach bumpers will be the same size, as in they won't fit at all.
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:27 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hey Bach, why the "C"?
Replies: 6
Views: 416

Re: Hey Bach, why the "C"?

I have a whole collection of no letter Bachs. I do like them, but the throats are a little small for the size of the rest of the mouthpiece. I eventually gave up on them because of this.
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Fanfare Trumpets....
Replies: 31
Views: 970

Re: Fanfare Trumpets....

I doubt any of the Kanstul stuff is being made yet. And herald trumpets are probably bottom of the list.
by Burgerbob
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn
Replies: 61
Views: 2149

Re: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn

Not to question your point about your 185 but I'm a bit confused. As the 185 was available as either a single valve instrument OR with the bird's nest plug in did someone before you make this into a dependent trigger setup? Any chance you have a pic of the horn? ALWAYS curious when someone has one ...
by Burgerbob
Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: mouthpiece buzzing...opinions
Replies: 105
Views: 2881

Re: mouthpiece buzzing...opinions

I mostly freebuzz these days. But when that's working, the mouthpiece buzz feels good too. I try to do 50/50 when I'm checking in on things.
by Burgerbob
Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn
Replies: 61
Views: 2149

Re: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn

harrisonreed wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:43 pm
Burgerbob wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:30 pm
Mine is being built as we speak!
Yeah but knowing you, who can play any horn, it won't last. You'll be looking for something better before you know it!
Never settle :good:
by Burgerbob
Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:38 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn
Replies: 61
Views: 2149

Re: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn

Well, Holton 185 is having levers split so I can actually use it... very excited for how that turns out. Also have Benn Hansson building me a bell section to end all bell sections, it'll be a monster instrument when done. Cool. So you have a 185 with side by side levers? That's unique. I have a 180...
by Burgerbob
Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn
Replies: 61
Views: 2149

Re: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn

WGWTR180 wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:24 am
Burgerbob wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:30 pm
Mine is being built as we speak!
Please do tell.
Well, Holton 185 is having levers split so I can actually use it... very excited for how that turns out. Also have Benn Hansson building me a bell section to end all bell sections, it'll be a monster instrument when done.
by Burgerbob
Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Dented slide crook. Is it worth fixing?
Replies: 40
Views: 1021

Re: Dented slide crook. Is it worth fixing?

Only worth it if you have a good slide tech around. The whole assembly will have to be aligned afterwards. Torching it off is the easy part!
by Burgerbob
Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:47 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: The Section Round in an Audition
Replies: 7
Views: 574

Re: The Section Round in an Audition

My teacher told me the decider in a large 2nd trombone audition recently was how they played in that section round. Both players had done very well up to that point, and then one just slotted perfectly into the section.
by Burgerbob
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn
Replies: 61
Views: 2149

Re: Bass Trombone - Dream Horn

Mine is being built as we speak!
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:37 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Contra Hagmann Valves
Replies: 12
Views: 1503

Re: Contra Hagmann Valves

Since Wessex sells a contra with rotors now, there isn't much reason to change one of the "hagmann" ones.
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:11 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 5B
Replies: 26
Views: 1026

Re: King 5B

whitbey wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:59 am
Burgerbob wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:43 am


That would be the predecessor 1480, .536/547. Not a 5B.

Maybe he had that slide on a 5B. The horn was rough.
Like John said above, the 1480 Symphony was also sold as (I think) the 5B Symphony for a little bit. So you were probably right the first time.
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:43 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 5B
Replies: 26
Views: 1026

Re: King 5B

whitbey wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:06 am
I have seen a 5B many years ago that was 525/547. Seems like it had a bass shank. Also the bore size on the small leg might have been a little bigger, but not 547. I would not buy it until you can check it.
That would be the predecessor 1480, .536/547. Not a 5B.
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach cup depth descriptions
Replies: 7
Views: 419

Re: Bach cup depth descriptions

The 3 and 6.5AL are definitely not the same depth.

As with all things Bach, you have to play them to really find the differences. The catalog is basically worse than useless.
by Burgerbob
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Surprise Horns
Replies: 26
Views: 1787

Re: Surprise Horns

I bought an ex-military silver plated 42B bell section a while back. It's not had the best life previous to me, as you may imagine. But man it makes a fat, warm sound with a nice middle to it... I used it a couple times on 4th part in a trombone quartet, and I think it would make an excellent 2nd tr...
by Burgerbob
Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: History of King bass trombones
Replies: 52
Views: 28325

Re: History of King bass trombones

Just for some documentation that you are both correct on this point - Benge trombones were a specific line of rebadged King models. Benge trombones were indeed NOT "rebadged" King models, any more than a Lexus is a "rebadged" Toyota. It's true that Benge branded trombones were built by King employe...
by Burgerbob
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

Re: What's your gigmobile?

EOlson9 wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:47 am
My daily driver is a 2018 Honda Fit LX. Can fit me, a couple trombones and a tuba, as well as music stand, folding chair, and my wife! :)
Someday I'll get a manual Fit to replace our Accord.
by Burgerbob
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 5B
Replies: 26
Views: 1026

Re: King 5B

In a word, no. It's not a bass. Not necessarily bad horns, but not basses.

The predecessor 1480 is actually a better bass, despite being smaller bore.

If you're looking for another single, I would look elsewhere.
by Burgerbob
Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Independent Bass Trombone Tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 1071

Re: Independent Bass Trombone Tuning

I must be a caveman. F/Gb/D seems to get everything done with the minimal fuss. Maybe everyone else is better at learning new valve tunings than me..
by Burgerbob
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What valve do you play?
Replies: 41
Views: 1584

Re: What valve do you play?

I have a King 2125f that at some point I'd like to replace the valve on but in no rush. Whenever I do that I'll probably use an Olsen valve. Otherwise got a 62H Gen 2 with stock rotors. Really like those rotors on the 62H. I'm not sure there's an Olsen that would be a good match. Right now the only...
by Burgerbob
Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6H or not?
Replies: 8
Views: 588

Re: Conn 6H or not?

Could be a replacement bell. The slide will also have the model number on the outer slide under the cork barrel.
by Burgerbob
Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:40 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What valve do you play?
Replies: 41
Views: 1584

Re: What valve do you play?

7 normal rotors (counting contra in there), 2 oversized, 3 axials, 1 K valve, 3 straight horns (two of which are convertible). Use what works! I like them all in different ways.
by Burgerbob
Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88HNV
Replies: 82
Views: 3651

Re: Conn 88HNV

I think it does fit some posts here. Funny how literally an hour after I learn the name of Ricky Gervais I see him pop up on TromboneChat of all places. There's got to be a name for that phenomenon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion#:~:text=Frequency%20illusion%2C%20also%20known%20...
by Burgerbob
Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:21 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Help! Has this happened to anyone else!
Replies: 39
Views: 2411

Re: Help! Has this happened to anyone else!

So you don't want to play again...?
by Burgerbob
Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:57 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: heavy duty/high quality alternatives to neotech grip?
Replies: 1
Views: 234

Re: heavy duty/high quality alternatives to neotech grip?

No help here, but I do also enjoy how I can leave my hand totally relaxed (usually as a kind of flat palm) when I play my 3B/F, which is what I use it on. Probably looks odd but really does help.
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88HNV
Replies: 82
Views: 3651

Re: Conn 88HNV

harrisonreed wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:19 pm
Is that the new model? Looks like it comes with red rot on the bell out of the box.

Look at the bell near the tuning slide

Actually, that thing looks well used. How is that the new model
It's the horn he had John Sandhagen put together for him. Not sure what it has to do with the HNV...
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

Re: What's your gigmobile?

Mamaposaune wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:21 pm
A 2017 VW Golf R with a 6-speed. (Slides and stick-shifts are just more fun!)
That's a sweet ride! Nice!
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

Re: What's your gigmobile?

stewbones43 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:40 pm


My present drives are a 2010 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 170bhp 6 speed manual or my wife's 2004 MINI hatchback John Cooper Works 211 bhp 6 speed manual, 1600cc supercharged.
:good:
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which Bell Material is your favorite?
Replies: 32
Views: 1398

Re: Which Bell Material is your favorite?

I like good bells. What material they are doesn't really bother me if it's a good bell. I have...

7x yellow bells

1x gold bell

2x red bell

Sterling is always calling my name, but I'm not sure I would say it's my favorite.
by Burgerbob
Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:30 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

Re: What's your gigmobile?

FOSSIL wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:22 am
special trips car....
:biggrin:
Kingfan wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:42 am



My Mustang is a 5 speed. My wife has the exact same car except for color and an automatic trans. Hers is not near the fun to drive as mine.
Exactly!
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:45 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

Re: What's your gigmobile?

MagnumH wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:29 pm


Gotta say the new all electric ID.4 looks wonderful too.
My plan is to drive fun manual cars right up until we transition to entirely electric. A Mach E looks like a pretty good option.
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's your gigmobile?
Replies: 53
Views: 1627

What's your gigmobile?

Ok, I know the gigs are scarce, but in normal times, I mean. I drive 22-23,000 miles a year in LA. Some people want a cruiser, or a hybrid, or something with lots of room. I don't want to be bored. So I bought this in 2018: https://i.imgur.com/lKrRK5B.jpg I get 27-28mpg, it's reliable, I can fit 5 h...
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn user ages.
Replies: 48
Views: 1842

Re: Vintage Conn user ages.

Vegasbound wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:57 pm


Guessing you have never gigged in the UK then
To be fair... most people haven't!
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:07 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach 12: Help me out!
Replies: 6
Views: 320

Re: Bach 12: Help me out!

Could be awful, could be great. Bach small horns are all over the map. That era and that model should be better than average... but then again, they're trading it away. It will be totally different than a 48H, that's for sure.
by Burgerbob
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:32 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Slide problems
Replies: 17
Views: 756

Re: Slide problems

If it's been to the big 3, then maybe just get a new slide.

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