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by doctortrombone
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Franklin Trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 204

Re: Franklin Trombone

Getzen and Blessing both made copper bells for small bore horns. The thread I linked to mentions a different thread on Chisham net. That one has pictures of the Franklin horn. His does not have a copper bell, but it has the same model designation as yours. Does it look similar to the one that you bo...
by doctortrombone
Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Franklin Trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 204

Re: Franklin Trombone

https://www.trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2304

Someone beat you to the punch. Apparently, the best current guess is that it's a Getzen stencil.

Can you post a link to the closed auction?
by doctortrombone
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Chrome Plated Brass Slide Tubes?
Replies: 5
Views: 379

Re: Chrome Plated Brass Slide Tubes?

.522 is the same as the lower slide of an Olds smallbore tenor. Ambassadors, Specials, Studios and a few others used them. Allied still lists them, but I don't know if they're still in stock. Then again, you can pick up a used Ambassador with good stockings for less than $100.
by doctortrombone
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Chrome Plated Brass Slide Tubes?
Replies: 5
Views: 379

Re: Chrome Plated Brass Slide Tubes?

So for a Williams 4, couldn't you retube with King 2B lowers, both inner and outer? Seems like the .491 wouldn't be much different from the .490, and is even within the margin of error for most calipers. Were the original outers nickel, or brass? Generally, for redoing inners, you need to know the o...
by doctortrombone
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:17 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bach LT16M Counterweight
Replies: 14
Views: 454

Re: Bach LT16M Counterweight

I went a similar route to Matt's with a Mt Vernon Mercury model. The Bach student horn counterweights fit the pro tenors, and look good on them.
by doctortrombone
Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: King 3B and 606 bells
Replies: 4
Views: 388

Re: King 3B and 606 bells

Allied lists a replacement bell which retails for over $200, but for some reason, they label it as a 607. Conn/Selmer notes the same thing. The 3B bell is cross-listed with the 607, (TM09016) while the 606 has its own designation (TM15016). The 3B bell is significantly more expensive than the 606, s...
by doctortrombone
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Slide
Replies: 44
Views: 1640

Re: Slide

The problem I've had with shotgun rods and bore mops is that they are usually made out of two or three threaded pieces. The threaded sections seem to be rather fragile. I've seen them snap off in the middle of a slide, leaving a rag and a chunk of aluminum inside of the slide with no easy way to get...
by doctortrombone
Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Custom Bell Flare
Replies: 22
Views: 689

Re: Custom Bell Flare

Doug Elliott wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:41 am
I remember from the Forum days somebody had a bell that had crumpled because it was extremely thin in the area where a screw collar would go, and one suggestion was to make it into a screw bell to strengthen that area. Maybe this the the same bell?
Pretty sure that was me. Conn 88h.
by doctortrombone
Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Custom Bell Flare
Replies: 22
Views: 689

Re: Custom Bell Flare

Who made the screw bell hardware? If it's aftermarket, there are many configuration for the screwbell parts. Or are you talking about transferring the collar over to a new flare?
by doctortrombone
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 187
Views: 7414

Re: Db bass trombone!

Sorry, but i don't think you know the actual ins and out of this horn. This is a very different beast than what you are referring to. The bell alone fits no conventional dimensions, and the point is this is something new and totally different. Not to poo poo on anyone's work, but Pete's horn just r...
by doctortrombone
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why Eb? Why F?
Replies: 31
Views: 1087

Re: Why Eb? Why F?

"Why F" seems pretty simple to me, and it has nothing to do with slide trombones. Think about valved brass instruments. The progression in valved instrument starts with a half-step (2nd valve). From that point, first valve is 2nd valve x2, third valve is first valve plus second valve, and fourth val...
by doctortrombone
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:25 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Main slide lock not locking properly
Replies: 11
Views: 639

Re: Main slide lock not locking properly

On most horns, you can see the ends of the tenon joints when the nut is not engaged. If there's no gap between the ends, and they're butted up against each other, you will never be able to maintain the connection between the two parts without some slipping.
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Yamaha Marching Bari. Cool Player with some Interesting Mods. $525 plus shipping.
Replies: 3
Views: 318

FS: Yamaha Marching Bari. Cool Player with some Interesting Mods. $525 plus shipping.

I call her "Rosie" because "She ain't exactly pretty... She ain't exactly small..." Another marching band refugee. The finish was too far gone to polish out, so I took out all the major dents, sealed up all the holes, and sandblasted the entire horn. I then clearcoated it with Nikolas Clear Bake lac...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Olds TIS Bell. Gold Plated. 6 3/8 bell. Nice Condition. $150 plus shipping
Replies: 0
Views: 101

FS: Olds TIS Bell. Gold Plated. 6 3/8 bell. Nice Condition. $150 plus shipping

This is an LM Old "Standard" TIS bell section from the 1910s. The J-tube is in good shape. There's some discoloration to the gold wash inside the bell, and two 1/2" square spots where bumpers in the case wore off the gold plate, but it's in good shape for its age. I tried it out with a '30s LM TIS s...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 661

Re: WTB: Olds 21

I have an Olds 21, and it's a standard large shank taper. It goes into the receiver on my Opera exactly the same amount that a Bach large shank does. I pulled the leadpipe, and it looks like that was intentional. The leadpipe has an expanded section, and then a sudden reduction in diameter, right at...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Selling on Reverb?
Replies: 4
Views: 465

Selling on Reverb?

Anyone have experience with selling trombones and such on Reverb? I'm getting tired of Ebay's gouging, but I'm concerned that Reverb doesn't offer seller protections in the way that Ebay.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...used to.

Any feedback on this?
by doctortrombone
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?
Replies: 4
Views: 312

Re: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?

The Tempo showed up yesterday. I was able to put together a tuning slide using the magic of Conn/King/Selmer. I had a tuning slide assembly from a later Conn 18H, and the larger leg was a perfect fit. The smaller leg on those horns is male, so I tried the female slide receiver from the same horn--ag...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: An Advised Persons Guide To The Science of Instrument Selection
Replies: 21
Views: 972

Re: An Advised Persons Guide To The Science of Instrument Selection

Finally, there’s something to be said for this (I’m sorry, but I can’t remember which law, theorem, or whatever its called): Even if we had an algorithm for selecting equipment, there is always the real possibility that some players will not like the resulting sound or response, and will choose equ...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?
Replies: 4
Views: 312

Re: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?

Hopefully, a tech or King afficiando will chime in. But, I found this previously on eBay: https://m.ebay.com/itm/King-Tempo-Trombone-Bell/183414586881?hash=item2ab45c7e01:g:~LkAAOSwq4dbjar-&_trkparms=gclientid%3D_EOUjMEo2li41pWRra5GZZcl8nTki4I73JLakrMb30FkNT6YUQj5zhuDRkeaUYZ6&_trksid=p2489528.m4335...
by doctortrombone
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?
Replies: 4
Views: 312

Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?

I purchased a nickel-plate, curved-brace Tempo with no tuning slide. I'm wondering if the TS from the straight-braced Tempos would work. Does anyone have both horns, and if so, could you check?

Thanks
by doctortrombone
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:26 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?
Replies: 16
Views: 983

Re: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?

This doesn't make sense to me -- but then so much business law doesn't make sense. :? Not sure why you want to be tax-exempt. That's a real pain since you have to continually ensure that you satisfy federal requirements (unless you're just talking about state taxes, but even then I'm confused). I t...
by doctortrombone
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?
Replies: 16
Views: 983

Re: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?

Since I'm working out of my home, I think getting insurance and taking in repairs might get me in trouble with the Home Owners' Association. One of those things we're not supposed to do---along with keeping decrepit VW Bugs in the driveway...
by doctortrombone
Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Flat G tuning Mod
Replies: 11
Views: 911

Re: Flat G tuning Mod

I avoid jeweler's saws because they leave uneven ends (no matter how careful you are) and they get filings into the work piece. My technique of choice is to mount the tube I'm cutting on a well-fitted mandrel (the back-side, not the part that you use on slides.) That way, you can cut with a tubing c...
by doctortrombone
Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:47 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?
Replies: 16
Views: 983

Re: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?

I think it will be fairly easy to keep track of the input and output. I do very little repair, since I don't want to carry insurance and I'm concerned that if I were to damage someone's horn, I'd end up being liable. I generally do refurbishment of used horns. If I document my own purchase prices, p...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Is it worth it to refurbish mouthpieces? + How do you buy mouthpieces if you are a school band director?
Replies: 14
Views: 830

Re: Is it worth it to refurbish mouthpieces? + How do you buy mouthpieces if you are a school band director?

There are quite a few Chinese 12c and 6 1/2AL mouthpieces on Ebay or Amazon for less than $10 shipped. I've bought a few out of curiosity and found them to work OK in general. A few were nickel plated and caused skin irritation. The others seemed to have a high quality silver plating on them. Plus, ...
by doctortrombone
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?
Replies: 16
Views: 983

Hobbyist to pro tech. Is it worth it?

I have a pretty good shop set-up, and I generally order my parts retail from Votaw or Ferree, or if they don't have it, I order from an established tech and have the parts re-shipped at my cost. I'm the only tech for 60 miles around--100 miles if you don't count other folks like me working unregiste...
by doctortrombone
Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h slide compatibility
Replies: 6
Views: 454

Re: Conn 6h slide compatibility

I've got two. One is a Director 23H slide. Nickel crook, gold brass outers, chromed nickel inners in great condition, and just aligned. Specs are remarkably close to the Elkhart 6H's original specs, with the differences being no oversleeves on the outers, and a different style of cork barrel. The ot...
by doctortrombone
Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:53 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Conn 90G valve trombone (trombonium)
Replies: 17
Views: 787

Re: FS: Conn 90G valve trombone (trombonium)

There's no such thing as a ridiculous selling price. You can have a ridiculous asking price, but if a product sells for a particular price, that price was clearly not ridiculous.
by doctortrombone
Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:39 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: King 5b -doesn't seem to be brass?
Replies: 9
Views: 437

Re: King 5b -doesn't seem to be brass?

I'm pretty sure that still yellow brass. It's just less yellow than the orange lacquer around it. It only looks silver by comparison.
by doctortrombone
Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: King 2B Liberty bell section ONLY
Replies: 5
Views: 309

Re: FS: King 2B Liberty bell section ONLY

Is that the one with the crack in it?

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by doctortrombone
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olda Marching trombone tuning?
Replies: 10
Views: 343

Re: Olda Marching trombone tuning?

Yeah, but that's not a trigger, doctortrombone. An idea, but not what I'm after. Thanks for the pics, though. But you get the idea, right? You need a slight dogleg on the activating arm, but really not much. Most trumpet triggers have their activating arm slightly to the right of the valve cluster....
by doctortrombone
Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Marching horn suggestion
Replies: 22
Views: 925

Re: Marching horn suggestion

Stay away from odd numbered Conn Directors -- they were sometimes made in China with poor QC. Maybe some odd-numbered Directors were bad, but the 23H Director is an American-made horn that will out-play any of the other Director models. They're hard to find, but worth looking for. I second the reco...
by doctortrombone
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olda Marching trombone tuning?
Replies: 10
Views: 343

Re: Olda Marching trombone tuning?

ut that, and he said it wouldn't work. It works. It just takes some serious modifications and a lot of time. Things to think about: You're basically building a tiny trombone slide. Tolerances have to be down to a few thousandths. That takes a lot of alignment work. Even when well aligned, the actio...
by doctortrombone
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 187
Views: 7414

Re: Db bass trombone!

And how did we end up with our current configurations? Evolution Not really. We ended up with our current configurations through intelligent design. :twisted: Perhaps early on it was a matter of Darwinesque random alterations and "mutation" of standard horns, with some designs meeting the demands o...
by doctortrombone
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olda Marching trombone tuning?
Replies: 10
Views: 343

Re: Olda Marching trombone tuning?

I just started the process on mine. I didn't want to do the main tuning slide, for two reasons. The main slide needs to have a set position for general tuning, and if you put a trigger on it, you lose that set position. Also, lapped-in slides leak air slightly. That's not too bad on a valve slide, b...
by doctortrombone
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Olda Marching trombone tuning?
Replies: 10
Views: 343

Re: Olda Marching trombone tuning?

It's possible, but you have to reverse the upper tubes on the first valve tuning slide. If you remove both top tubes on the first valve tuning slide and attach the top inner leg to the stub sticking out of the valve cluster, you will have a male tube on the horn side. Then take the female tube that ...
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Very Playable 1936 H.N. White King Double Bell Euphonium. (Now with pics) $650
Replies: 1
Views: 362

FS: Very Playable 1936 H.N. White King Double Bell Euphonium. (Now with pics) $650

Another one I'm considering putting on Ebay. Speak now, or enter the bidding war. This one is cosmetically challenged. It was a deluxe model in its day, with silver plating and gold wash as well as gold plating over the engraving. I knew I'd never get it back to stock condition, so I decided to upda...
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Late '60s King 2B with Coffin Case and M22 Mouthpiece. (Now with Pics) $750
Replies: 1
Views: 362

FS: Late '60s King 2B with Coffin Case and M22 Mouthpiece. (Now with Pics) $750

I'm thinking of putting this on Ebay, but I'd like to offer it up here first. This is a beautiful King 2B that was just buffed and lacquered. The slide was among the best I've ever played. I took the crook off to remove a small ding, and verified that both outer tubes were very straight, then I reas...
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Schagerl style superbone project
Replies: 7
Views: 305

Re: Schagerl style superbone project

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Mmmmm!! Clock Spring Valve Levers!.

I bought one of those awhile back for a cimbasso project. I thought "As soon as I get that valve cluster working correctly, I'll start assembling it." That was five years ago.
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Superbone
Replies: 38
Views: 1316

Re: Holton Superbone

I played a gig with a guy who had a superbone. I was surprised at how trombonish it sounded. It uses an odd combination of features--a narrow bore, and a large bell--which for some reason results in a really bright tone without much of that "valve bone" sound to it.
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:44 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Conn 90G valve trombone (trombonium)
Replies: 17
Views: 787

Re: FS: Conn 90G valve trombone (trombonium)

... For what he wants, I could fabricate my own! Forum Member Doctor Trombone did that when he was Euphanasia on TTF. Maybe he'd wast to do it again...g I've got another one in the works, but it's going to take some time. I have a full-compensating valve section and an Elkhart 88H bell. Waiting for...
by doctortrombone
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Parduba Double Cup mpc
Replies: 5
Views: 272

Re: Parduba Double Cup mpc

They came in a pretty broad range of sizes. I've owned three, all in the 12 to 9 range in comparison to Bach. Can't say they knocked me out or improved my range. I guess it depends on how much of your lip extends into the bowl. I have thin lips, so I don't think the double cup made any difference. T...
by doctortrombone
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:40 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 2b Identify
Replies: 9
Views: 539

Re: King 2b Identify

You can check the bore with a mouthpiece. If it goes further into the lower inner leg than the upper inner leg, it's dual bore. I'm not positive about this, but I'm pretty sure there were 606 student models made with nickel outers and curved bell braces. Could be one of those.
by doctortrombone
Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Budget Pro Small Bore
Replies: 4
Views: 485

Re: WTB: Budget Pro Small Bore

If you're till looking, I may have a few you might like. Some are still being reconditioned. Martin Handcraft Imperial. Great horn for Dixieland. .475/.510 bore and 7" bell. Conn 23H. Like a modern 6H. .500 bore with gold brass outers and a nickel crook. I have others as well, but those two are righ...
by doctortrombone
Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTS: Williams Model 4 Tenor Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 1012

Re: WTS: Williams Model 4 Tenor Trombone

I hate making offers...but if you're interested in a trade, I've got a few rare birds that you might consider. Conn 90G? Stenberg engraved Conn 22H? Other goodies? Let me know.
by doctortrombone
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bell repair = deadening sound?
Replies: 5
Views: 440

Re: Bell repair = deadening sound?

If the bell no longer has any lacquer on it, you may want to try annealing it. I've done this with several bells that have been overworked, especially ones that had deep dents from slides rattling around in the case for years. You need to maintain some sort of heat sink on the bell rim so the solder...
by doctortrombone
Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Curved hand grip for 3b
Replies: 9
Views: 856

Re: Curved hand grip for 3b

It used to be fairly common to solder curved pieces to the existing braces. Any capable tech should be able to do that.

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