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by Kingfan
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

Doug Elliott wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:14 pm
I'll give you a little free time... Contact me
Pm sent.
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:47 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

So far today I started to look up an old bandmate who did what I'm trying to do many years ago. I can't remember his name, but have feelers out. I checked with three local colleges, one has the New Horizon program with a jazz band and I'm waiting on them to get back to me. I've got an idea or two o...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:50 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Rude Awakening
Replies: 15
Views: 863

Re: Rude Awakening

I hope you didn't let your neighbor go without paying for the performance! Thanks for the hint. I'll remember to leave a tip jar at the front door! Make sure it's clear so you know what's in it before you open it. It might explode, be filled with the scoop-outs of your neighbor's litter box, an act...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:47 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

I know you think I don't get it, but I really do. I have some great simple ways to get started, if you're interested. So far today I started to look up an old bandmate who did what I'm trying to do many years ago. I can't remember his name, but have feelers out. I checked with three local colleges,...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

Doug Elliott wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:33 pm
I know you think I don't get it, but I really do. I have some great simple ways to get started, if you're interested.
I'm still looking at a variety of ways to take that first step. What are your ideas on great simple ways to get started?
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:50 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Rude Awakening
Replies: 15
Views: 863

Re: Rude Awakening

I hope you didn't let your neighbor go without paying for the performance!
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

That's why I mentioned earlier that I totally get it, because I started as a classical player and very much remember having no idea what to play. Yeah, Doug, but with all due respect, you said you struggled in high school. We're old enough to have been that kid's grandparents. When you have a histo...
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

Don't regret starting it - we absolutely need this kind of thread. As with advice on chops, I will say I'd need to see what you are doing now to give valid advice on where to go from here. I'm not set up to do jazz lessons but I can probably give you some advice over Skype if you want. Lots of peop...
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:11 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

Re: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

LOTS of great information here. Speaking of Frank Sinatra... LISTEN to what he does with melodies ... especially rhythmically. Listen, don't just hear. When you're learning improvising, don't try to be Watrous or Fontana, try to be Sinatra. Make melodies that fit, the simpler the better. I agree wi...
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?
Replies: 64
Views: 2009

How do I learn to improvise so I don't suck?

I didn't want to hijack the "Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?" thread, so I'm starting a new thread. I've had a mental block against learning to improvise for over 40 years. Background - I'm a chronologically gifted player, classical background early but played a lot of big band in the last 3...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:37 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Don't forget all the players who can't hit the high G in bar 4 of the first strain in tune....
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

Posaunus wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:12 pm
Kingfan wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:46 pm
I just did an A-B-C comparison with my 2B and 3B-F. I like the Getzen - a lot. Look for a new post about it.
Oh-oh. Will you be changing your Username? :idk:

KingGetzenfan? Sounds like a sneeze or a German word for a guy who can't make up his mind... :mrgreen:
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Compared a 2B, a 3B-F, and a Getzen student horn
Replies: 1
Views: 312

Compared a 2B, a 3B-F, and a Getzen student horn

I lucked into a nice Getzen 400 series (451?) student trombone for cheap. I sat down today and compared it to my 1960s King 2B and my 1970s King 3B-F. I am an oddball for who larger than normal mouthpieces fit me best even on small bores, so my results may be skewed. When I started playing my 3B-F a...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

I just did an A-B-C comparison with my 2B and 3B-F. I like the Getzen - a lot. Look for a new post about it.
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Thanks! Yep, that was it. It was a slower and quieter arrangement than I am used to. Not sure how many thousands of times I played that march when I was in the Navy. Slower at the trio to make sure the Marines could keep up. Quieter? Never heard it that way, especially at the trombone trio. Somebod...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

hyperbolica wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:05 am
I'm not watching it, but if it's a march that they're playing slow, it might be National Emblem, with a big trombone soli in the trio.
Thanks! Yep, that was it. It was a slower and quieter arrangement than I am used to.
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:58 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 66
Views: 2415

Re: Inauguration

Yes, very nice. Glad that Gaga didn't riff too far off the original song, same with Garth. Something is driving me nuts, though. The march segment they played slower than normal during the moving of the colors. It is the second or third stanza of something I know, but FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CAN'T REME...
by Kingfan
Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:01 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: What's Frustration To You?
Replies: 15
Views: 782

Re: What's Frustration To You?

Politics.
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:34 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: R.I.P Sammy Nestico
Replies: 15
Views: 884

Re: R.I.P Sammy Nestico

Every time the band leader called a Nestico arrangement, I smiled because I knew it was going to be a great chart to play. Every time!
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Who made this trombone? Mansfield American.
Replies: 2
Views: 416

Re: Who made this trombone? Mansfield American.

This is all hypothesis..... Many instruments have been named after geographical locations. I know of four Mansfield municipalities off the top of my head.......Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Texas. I am sure there are probably a few more. The Keefer Instrument Company was located in Williams...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:17 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?
Replies: 51
Views: 3409

Re: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?

Expensive! Well, at least the prices are still (barely) less than 4 digits: https://www.ebay.com/itm/difficult-to-obtain-Unused-Monette-Resonance-trombone-mouthpiece-/184404326342?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true Lot cheaper (relatively) at $340 directly from Monett...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:40 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: mouthpieces for sale
Replies: 3
Views: 956

Re: mouthpieces for sale

Didn't notice this post until now. I'll take the Kelly. Why, I don't know...
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

Just got it home. The seller is moving, has had it for sale for weeks with no nibbles. I knew going in there was no case, no MP, just the horn and a cleaning rod. When I got there he saw my trombone t-shirt and asked if I played. I said yes, a we talked a bit, and he said give me $20 and take it! Of...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Who made this trombone? Mansfield American.
Replies: 2
Views: 416

Who made this trombone? Mansfield American.

I can't find anything about a Mansfield American. I'm guessing it is a stencil, but whose? Owner has no clue.
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by Kingfan
Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

Picking up the Getzen Thursday evening. The seller says it has a smooth slide, but has been sitting for ten years. Will let you know what I have after I get it home and give it a good clean and lube.
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:53 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

Thanks to everybody who responded. I'll grab the Getzen if I can get my bandmate who bought my King 606 at the last band rehearsal before COVID hit to pay me for it!
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:08 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: hello qwerty i am from Germany
Replies: 7
Views: 619

Re: hello qwerty i am from Germany

The FAQs refer to a Language Pack. See below. "My language is not in the list! Either the administrator has not installed your language or nobody has translated this board into your language. Try asking a board administrator if they can install the language pack you need. If the language pack does n...
by Kingfan
Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:51 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: hello qwerty i am from Germany
Replies: 7
Views: 619

Re: hello qwerty i am from Germany

Welcome, qwerty! What trombones do you play?
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?
Replies: 51
Views: 3409

Re: POLL - Which Mouthpiece Brand do you primarily use?

BrianJohnston wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Burgerbob wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:28 pm
Oh boy.
And I have a feeling that's not even all of em!
Hoarding is a disease. Let me help you. Send as many as you can to me. :pant: No need to thank me. :D
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Re: Getzen student horns?

When was this fire that has been mentioned a few times?
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:37 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Edwards Bullet Brace SOLD
Replies: 3
Views: 264

Re: Edwards Bullet Brace USED

PM sent
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Trombone Discord Server (NEW and IMPROVED!)
Replies: 4
Views: 786

Re: Trombone Discord Server (NEW and IMPROVED!)

Signed up, looked around for a few days, suspended my account. Not for me.
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:43 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 1989

Getzen student horns?

When people talk about good student horns, I see Yamahas, Kings, Conns, and Olds a lot, but never the Getzens. Their site insinuates they are/were made in Elkhorn, so not a stencil. There is a 400 series for sale across town I can probably get for $100 or less, and I'm trying to decide if it is wort...
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)
Replies: 69
Views: 4182

Re: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)

A friend’s dad loved to play. When he passed away in 2019 I got to play his 1960-ish 2B Silversonic and was surprised by the wear/loss of chrome on the slide. I’ve never seen that in a King. He’d obviously played that horn a lot. ... or didn't keep it properly aligned/maintained. I picked up a 50s ...
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 80
Views: 26134

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

My neighbor was pounding on on my front door at 3 am. How rude! Lucky for me I was still up practicing Wagner excerpts on my trombone...
by Kingfan
Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: most overrated horns
Replies: 43
Views: 2676

Re: most overrated horns

euphobone wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:17 am
Kingfan wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:09 pm


Kings, eh? Meet me in the parking lot and we'll settle this like men! :P
I got your back, Kingfan. I would suggest out by the flagpole after school.
We'll tag team him!
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Sheet Metal Double-Notch Snips
Replies: 7
Views: 1100

Re: Sheet Metal Double-Notch Snips

Hey Kingfan, I really appreciate your help. The center tab that your tool creates is a little too wide. It turns out that Wiss makes a M4R tool that creates a tab that is more narrow, so I think I am going to get that tool. Thanks....your response definitely pointed me in the right direction. That'...
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: most overrated horns
Replies: 43
Views: 2676

Re: most overrated horns

Getzen Eternas, Jinbao altos/Euphs (even for the money), Bach Artisan 42s, Benge 165, King 4B, Getzen Bousfield, Shires TIS altos, Bach 50s with the 10.5 bell, Holton Superbone, Courtois 550, King 2B Jiggs, dual bore Bach 16s, the older Eastman by Shires tenors... All just opinion that I'm sure som...
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)
Replies: 69
Views: 4182

Re: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)

Maybe for some people, horns are like cars. You can have a well maintained high mileage ten year old car that still looks and functions great, but trade it in due to boredom with it and/or the call of the shiny new bauble in the showroom...
by Kingfan
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Hi there! New to the forums
Replies: 5
Views: 1015

Re: Hi there! New to the forums

Wow! Quite the arsenal you have there!
by Kingfan
Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Sheet Metal Double-Notch Snips
Replies: 7
Views: 1100

Re: Sheet Metal Double-Notch Snips

Maybe I can help. I remembered I had an oddball snip in my toolbox, a Wiss M-41R. Looks like the tab is about 3/16 wide. I cut a piece of galvanized ductwork to show what it does. I never use it, so make me a reasonable offer and it's yours!
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by Kingfan
Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Hi there! New to the forums
Replies: 5
Views: 1015

Re: Hi there! New to the forums

Welcome! What horns do you have?
by Kingfan
Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Greetings
Replies: 3
Views: 896

Re: Greetings

Same back atcha! Have a great holiday.
by Kingfan
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Non-trombone music that we like
Replies: 43
Views: 4377

Re: Non-trombone music that we like

Ok, we trombone players are way better than trumpet players in every way imaginable, but... Bill Chase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SW2Z3_d8I
by Kingfan
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?
Replies: 40
Views: 2972

Re: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?

OK, I got this back from Chuck.

"Hi Greg, the 6B has a 9 1/2” bell. Anything is possible. The large tenors had a .547” slide and F attachment with an 8 1/2” bell. Chuck Ward"

I followed up with pictures of the bell and the whole horn, and asked him to let me know if he had any other input.
by Kingfan
Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:11 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?
Replies: 40
Views: 2972

Re: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?

I just measured my 4B-F and and 7B using a cheap micrometer that only goes to .01 accuracy, similar to what Hanlon92 used. The 4B-F measured .55 bore for the slide and F attachment, which make sense for a .547 horn. The 7B is .56 all the way, so is .562, just like Hanlon92's horn. The valve section ...
by Kingfan
Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?
Replies: 40
Views: 2972

Re: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?

Looks like somebody removed the 6B valve section and replaced it with a 4B or 5B valve section. They also had to do some jockeying with the bell connection since the bell doesn't point directly ahead like it should. Perhaps the 4B tuning slide was used as well. I don't have my good micrometer handy...
by Kingfan
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?
Replies: 40
Views: 2972

Re: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?

The moment you all have been waiting for.... the bore size is .562. The calipers I bought measure .56 (doesn’t measure the last digits) on the interior at the bottom of the slide, and the tubing for the trigger. Does that help? Yes; it answered some questions, and raised more. How the heck did this...
by Kingfan
Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:13 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Package theifs
Replies: 27
Views: 2391

Re: Package theifs

That really stinks. Yeah, what is the typical thief gonna do with specialized trombone equipment?

I had a buddy who kept getting hit with porch pirates. He packaged up the dog doodoo from his yard in an Amazon box and put it on the porch. Yes, it was picked up!
by Kingfan
Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?
Replies: 40
Views: 2972

Re: Just getting back into playing.... keep my King 6b or?

Are you checking the inside diameter of the inner slide tube and the F attachment tubing?

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