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by Kingfan
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 5B
Replies: 30
Views: 622

Re: King 5B

The 1480 can be a really amazing horn, IMO. I think the 5B is not as good. [/quote] I'd say the 1480 is a better choice if you're going to use it primarily as a bass, while the later 5B is a better choice if you're looking to use it mainly as a tenor. [/quote] The King catalogs I have, both the one ...
by Kingfan
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 5B
Replies: 30
Views: 622

Re: King 5B

My 1971 King catalog shows the #1480 5B to be .536 bore, 9" bell, and my 1973 catalog shows it to be .547 bore. Another way you might tell if a trombone is dual bore: take the outer slide off, flip it upside down and put it back on the inner slides so the water key is on top. If it fits nicely, odd ...
by Kingfan
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Do/did you have a day job outside of music?
Replies: 20
Views: 457

Re: Do/did you have a day job outside of music?

I made it through two quarters as a performance major and realized I didn't have the right sum of talent and desire to make it as a pro musician. I got a liberal arts degree, but got no real job offers when I graduated so spent 2 years touring with a family big band. That was going nowhere and I end...
by Kingfan
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Music Stand Placement
Replies: 13
Views: 362

Re: Music Stand Placement

I used a coupon for a pair of single vision glasses optimized for reading music. Paid a bit over $50 for frames and lenses with scratch resistant coating. Great help to my old eyes!
by Kingfan
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!
Replies: 58
Views: 5802

Re: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!

Ok, things are looking up. The community band I joined is getting better all the time. The conductor does an adult music education class and asked me to be in a brass quintet, first time in over 40 years playing baroque music and boy does it feel good! I also joined the oldest big band in Cleveland,...
by Kingfan
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Playing After Shaving
Replies: 15
Views: 508

Re: Playing After Shaving

I have had a moustache since college and a beard or goatee with a soul patch most of the time. I shaved both off once and it took me a while to get my embouchure adjusted, and once I went back to a furry face another week or two to get used to it again. That includes small bore, large bore, and bass...
by Kingfan
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Small accidental discovery
Replies: 7
Views: 818

Re: Small accidental discovery

JohnL wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:15 pm
Doug, maybe that's a tchotchke you could offer - an official Doug Elliot branded spanner.
...made from billet unobtanium, complete with a unicorn hide storage pouch. :D
by Kingfan
Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bucket mutes
Replies: 13
Views: 418

Re: Bucket mutes

My experience: I was using the tried and true H&B bucket in a brass quintet playing transpositions of the French horn parts, using the mute to get a more horn-like sound. Putting it on and taking it off was a PITA so I tried the Jo-Ral. The positives: easier to put on and take off. Negatives: it was...
by Kingfan
Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3B Question
Replies: 5
Views: 492

Re: King 3B Question

I have a 3B-F for sale for $750 USD shipped in the US. https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8432&p=76384#p76384. I would sell it to you for $700 USD plus shipping, you would be responsible for any import taxes. Where in Canada are you? I might be open to driving to Detroit or Buffalo areas ...
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Any interest in a 120 year old trombone?
Replies: 0
Views: 190

Any interest in a 120 year old trombone?

I ended up with a floor lamp made of an old trombone with the lamp rod going up the bell, coming out where the tuning slide fits. The horn was not drilled or beat on in the transformation. I cleaned it off enough to find it is an HN White The King trombone SN #3242. According to the chart I found on...
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Used Professional Bass Trombone
Replies: 15
Views: 1234

Re: WTB: Used Professional Bass Trombone

Yam YBL-613H $2,500 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42757577_1154285278055774_8872296711385513984_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=add457ef3e3ffe4ef2b7c22a0b6d9a4e&oe=5CB88398 Bach 50BLG w/ lightweight slide $2,495 https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50596026_10...
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Stocking design
Replies: 3
Views: 223

Re: Stocking design

Years ago I had to get a new inner slide on my King 4B due to a botched overhaul. The new inner doesn't have near as visible a break from the stocking to the rest of the slide as the original.
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3B-F - what's it worth?
Replies: 5
Views: 300

Re: King 3B-F - what's it worth?

Ok, now listed for sale $750 shipped in the CONUS.
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3B-F - what's it worth?
Replies: 5
Views: 300

Re: King 3B-F - what's it worth?

Mike, was that with or without shipping?
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bifocals and Note Reading
Replies: 12
Views: 334

Re: Bifocals and Note Reading

I have the same problem with my progressive bifocals. I had my eye doc write out a prescription for single vision glasses, focused about music stand distance. Just got my new pair using a Groupon for $50 including frames and scratch resistant coating. Works great! That the music is sharp and the dir...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3B-F - what's it worth?
Replies: 5
Views: 300

Re: King 3B-F - what's it worth?

Thanks. New twist to the story, though. My own 3B-F is only a few years older. It has a lighter tone laquer so probably has had major work, and I sent the slide off to the Slide Dr. when I bought it ten years ago for a tweak. The one I am thinking of selling has the older dark King lacquer and the b...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3B-F - what's it worth?
Replies: 5
Views: 300

King 3B-F - what's it worth?

I aquired a second King 3B-F and I am trying to figure out best route to sell. 3B-F sn 526XXX, so about 1975 vintage. Bell laquer is pretty good, nickel outer slides not so much. Minor dents, needs new rotor stops. Slide stockings have no plating loss. Original coffin case, but as the horn has been ...
by Kingfan
Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Cruise ship gig questions
Replies: 13
Views: 1155

Re: Cruise ship gig questions

We were on a Norwegian Cruise Line ship and the trombone player (nice young Brit with a Rath) also had to help staff the jewelry sale tables sometimes. You might want to define what other duties you might be asked to do so you aren't blindsided once on board. Me, if I was young and single looking fo...
by Kingfan
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:38 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Intro - new to group
Replies: 2
Views: 127

Re: Intro - new to group

Welcome (or welcome back, whichever it is). Too bad I'm over two hours away or I'd be happy to do some playing with you.
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How long pBone?
Replies: 10
Views: 284

Re: How long pBone?

I sat in front of a trumpet player at a big band gig last week who had a new Tromba plastic trumpet. He had shoulder problems and being lighter he could play without pain. He even soloed with it and sounded good.
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Holton Tr180
Replies: 9
Views: 383

Re: WTB: Holton Tr180

No argument that the Glantz trigger is a bad design, but for players like me who don't need to use the second valve it is a moot point. The looks of my pawn shop TR180 are nothing to brag about, but it plays and sounds great.
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Holton Tr180
Replies: 9
Views: 383

Re: WTB: Holton Tr180

Mr. Deacon, if somebody wants a TR180 specifically, there might be good reasons. Why try and talk Chet out of it? What kind of playing does Chet do? At what level? Did Chet have one in the past and want another one? I have a stock TR180 and find it a LOT of fun. I never "needed" to get the triggers ...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bass players that don’t play tenor?
Replies: 32
Views: 1194

Re: Bass players that don’t play tenor?

I played my high school's Conn 72H bass one year in high school jazz band back in the 70s and liked it a lot. My primary horn in high school and a year at a conservatory of music was a .547 concert tenor which I still play. Since then I picked up a pair of small bores (2B and 3B) and a Holton TR-180...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: King 5B
Replies: 13
Views: 408

Re: WTB: King 5B

Thanks, yes, I’ve seen those. I’m trying to keep this around $1000. I like the one listed for $900 but wanted to see what else is out in the market (I see that I just missed a nice one at $750 back in December). Agreed. The one for $1,000 shipped looks to be a good deal. Look up Greenbean in the Tr...
by Kingfan
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: King 5B
Replies: 13
Views: 408

Re: WTB: King 5B

There are three on eBay starting at $1000 shipped.
by Kingfan
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

Perfect example of what I mean by a cheap imported TSO. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Muslady-Interm ... ition=1000
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

where can i get a slide extender? they seem to be discontinued or out of stock Trade the trombone in on one with an F-attachment. A used King 607F might do. Or if the medium bore is too much, then a Jupiter JTB710F. I see lots of playable straight student horns for sale in my area for $100 to $200,...
by Kingfan
Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bell section comes loose & falls over
Replies: 16
Views: 662

Re: Bell section comes loose & falls over

I think the OP when talking about the screw linkage he meant the threaded collar on the slide tenon and the thread on the bell receiver section. I will be watching this thread closely - my TR180 has the same problem sometimes and it is gradually getting worse.
by Kingfan
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

I like the zip tie idea. Big zip tie around the slide brace, use smaller zip ties to attach a piece of round wood like a cut-off broom handle to the tail of the big zip tie. It would to the job until the kid's arms grow or the horn shrinks in the wash!
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

I can say with some confidence, based on experience, that you've seriously underestimated the number of trips to the hardware store (assuming you can find one near you nowadays). It would be better take the horn and your tools to the hardware store and do this project on site. There would be a huge...
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

This is what is being discussed. https://www.wwbw.com/DEG-Trombone-Hand-Slide-Extension-465759.wwbw. I just called my local tech and he said he can't get them either. I remember back in the late 70s Alan Kofsky of the Cleveland Orchestra was teaching a kid with a prosthesis instead of a right hand u...
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: king serial numbers
Replies: 2
Views: 167

Re: king serial numbers

They were absorbed by Conn-Selmer. I checked their website and couldn't figure out serial numbers past 1986. Maybe contact them directly? https://www.conn-selmer.com/en-us/about
by Kingfan
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Introductions!
Replies: 19
Views: 1894

Re: Introductions!

Hi Tetra! I started trombone in 6th grade. I was a few years later I was lucky enough to get as a teacher a new trombone player in Cleveland who had just joined the Cleveland Orchestra, James DeSano. While in high school a local Jr. college that just opened needed musicians so I ended up playing in ...
by Kingfan
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Martin TR4501 Urbie Green Trombone
Replies: 14
Views: 2047

Re: Martin TR4501 Urbie Green Trombone

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 3527844385
There is one in Ohio going for $425 if anybody is interested
by Kingfan
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Ring Near Mouthpiece Receiver
Replies: 2
Views: 266

Re: Ring Near Mouthpiece Receiver

Larger bore horns have more distance between the upper and lower slides, at least on the King horns, so smaller hands can't alway fit the index finger comfortably around the leadpipe on large bores. The ring is so the index finger doesn't have to stretch so much. I have big hands. I just got my 4B (...
by Kingfan
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: How much for charts?
Replies: 18
Views: 2153

Re: How much for charts?

I think they provide charts in .pdf for their own reasons. Supposed I wrote 10 killer charts. If I sold paper copies I would have to print them off and mail them. New charts come on one piece, i.e. a four page chart is one piece of paper with three folds. If my arrangement had a four page drum part,...
by Kingfan
Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is Reverb a Trustworthy site?
Replies: 4
Views: 447

Re: Is Reverb a Trustworthy site?

https://reverb.com/es/page/reverb-protection. Looks pretty good to me. Never bought anything myself off Reverb, though. I would message the the seller to make sure the 70 Euro shipping charge includes shipping to the US.
by Kingfan
Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:10 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: King 4B-F For Sale
Replies: 7
Views: 1035

Re: King 4B-F For Sale

I've owned one since I picked it up at the King factory back in the 70s. Still my favorite horn of the five players in my arsenal.
by Kingfan
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Karl Bass Trombone for only 600 GBP? ($761 USD)
Replies: 9
Views: 503

Re: Karl Bass Trombone for only 600 GBP? ($761 USD)

I found a Karl Glaser on Reverb that is supposedly made in Germany. Looks like the same horn. https://reverb.com/item/11832708-karl-g ... ccessories
The engraving could be a lie, though - Germany company selling Chinese stencils.
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?
Replies: 9
Views: 514

Re: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?

Bach5G wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:03 pm
Actually I am in Canada so there is an exchange rate and a border involved.
Oops, sorry!
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Mirage Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 457

Re: Mirage Trombone

greenbean wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:23 am
I also have to question the intelligence of anyone who would market a product named Mirage...

:biggrin:
Like Mistubishi does on their penalty box of a car? https://www.mitsubishicars.com/mirage-g4/2018
by Kingfan
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?
Replies: 9
Views: 514

Re: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?

Bach5G is in the US, so exchange rates aren't relevant. That said, I played a 2B on lead in a big band so this might be a great horn for him.
by Kingfan
Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Best wishes everyone!
Replies: 7
Views: 307

Re: Best wishes everyone!

Whatever holiday you all are celebrating, may you have a peaceful and loving one.
by Kingfan
Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?
Replies: 9
Views: 514

Re: Value of a late 50s 2B Silversonic?

Variable from a few hundred to a few thousand, depending on condition. My opinion, anyway.
by Kingfan
Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Amanda & Amanda's Christmas greeting
Replies: 1
Views: 218

Re: Amanda & Amanda's Christmas greeting

Thanks! That was fun to watch and listen to.
by Kingfan
Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Cleaning a very dirty and old instrument
Replies: 10
Views: 637

Re: Cleaning a very dirty and old instrument

There are music stores that do a chemical clean on horns, and if one is available near you that might be a good way to clean it with out damaging it. If you do it yourself, I suggest the dish soap and warm (not hot) water method. Let it soak a while before snaking it out. It may take multiple baths....
by Kingfan
Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3b Valve Section
Replies: 10
Views: 597

Re: 3b Valve Section

I found a guy three hours away who had a 3B for $50. I just didn't want to make the drive...
by Kingfan
Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Morbid thought: who will play my horns after I'm gone?
Replies: 18
Views: 813

Re: Morbid thought: who will play my horns after I'm gone?

Hell, I'm 61 and have two toy cars and five pro quality trombones. It'll be along time before I start divesting! I'll keep my players for as long as I can play, but the collection? It's really more of a private museum at this point, so finding someone I can trust who is willing and able to take it ...
by Kingfan
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3b Valve Section
Replies: 10
Views: 597

Re: 3b Valve Section

Find me a playable 3B for $400, and I'll buy it.

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