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by Redthunder
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:32 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece for high notes?
Replies: 20
Views: 417

Re: Mouthpiece for high notes?

"I believe it was Doug Elliott who said you should play the smallest mouthpiece you have a good low register on." I don't think I actually said that but that's sort of a good rule I guess. I remember that quote being posted by Sam Burtis on the old forum, attributed to Jimmy Knepper, as: “Play the ...
by Redthunder
Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:20 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Yamaha YSL-645
Replies: 5
Views: 140

Re: WTB Yamaha YSL-645

Great horns! Had one some years ago. If I were in the market for a .525 this would be on the top of my list. Bit I have some old 36s lying around that are just... yummie I’ve been on an older Yamaha kick for some time now, and so far have acquired a YSL653 (.500), 647 (.551), 641 (also .551, but wi...
by Redthunder
Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Yamaha YSL-645
Replies: 5
Views: 140

Re: WTB Yamaha YSL-645

I don't know of anyone, but I believe someone on here might be selling a 646 - same horn with a trigger. Nice horns. I did see this, but I actively avoid trigger horns for two reasons - one is the angle at which the horn meets my face results in a sort of unusual grip for me and makes having a trig...
by Redthunder
Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB Yamaha YSL-645
Replies: 5
Views: 140

WTB Yamaha YSL-645

Hi TC,

Looking for a YSL-645, .525 Bore, 8.5" Bell, with the long torpedo style Yamaha counterweight. Like this one.

Let me know if you have one of these, or know of someone who may be selling one.

Thanks!
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Memorizing Techniques
Replies: 9
Views: 483

Re: Memorizing Techniques

I have two additional suggestions to the above. First, begin to look at music not as individual notes and rhythms, but melodic and harmonic patterns. Different genres of music will have different patterns, but common practice harmonic language and scales are used in most that you'll play. When you ...
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:51 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Jazz Trombone Ballads
Replies: 11
Views: 543

Re: Jazz Trombone Ballads

by Redthunder
Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Don't forget your tongue position!
Replies: 37
Views: 871

Re: Don't forget your tongue position!

These videos?



by Redthunder
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Chop Remedies?
Replies: 15
Views: 479

Re: Chop Remedies?

Oh, boy, lucky me. This is what Markey was talking about. Doug didn't give me advice. He told me to freebuzz, but only for 5 minutes max and only if I did it the way he considered to be correct, but he's pretty sure I don't know how to freebuzz anyway. What am I supposed to do with that information...
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Chop Remedies?
Replies: 15
Views: 479

Re: Chop Remedies?

James Markey gave a masterclass in March, where he mentioned how common this sort of thing in music. Around four minutes in, he talks about it. I think it's on YouTube. About an hour long video. Definitely check it out. How common what is? Music students coming to a forum and asking for free advice...
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Chop Remedies?
Replies: 15
Views: 479

Re: Chop Remedies?

Good to know, I'll take it easy. A special nod to Doug for reminding everyone yet again that he knows more than all of us. There are of course two kinds of replies on this forum, Doug. The helpful kind and the digging-in kind. You are much better at the digging-in kind. I had some great luck with t...
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1570

Re: High note technique

Interesting POV. You characterize the presenter as 'dangerous' because the mechanics of his (in your own words) success is opposite yours. No - it's "dangerous", because if someone presents incomplete or incorrect information it could do more harm than good, and in this video, there is plenty. He u...
by Redthunder
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1570

Re: High note technique

High range is breath support with the proper setting for your individual chops to make efficient use of the air. Everybody is different in their personal physiology, but the principle s are the same. Breath support first and chops second. Except for many players, all of the good breath support in t...
by Redthunder
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Favourite Jones-Lewis tune?
Replies: 7
Views: 275

Re: Favourite Jones-Lewis tune?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfphJdsl4v0 -Composed by Hank Jones, arranged by Thad Jones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngWlnJn3Tog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6mDxLXYECw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MSMgwknQlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M2ADUgffFE For the record, Groove Merchant...
by Redthunder
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1570

Re: High note technique

We'll be getting all of our power from Fusion, and living on distant planets long before arriving at a consensus on this issue. :) Consensus isn't required, as long as it's understood that different players require different ways of thinking about things depending on how they play. The problems ari...
by Redthunder
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:20 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High note technique
Replies: 37
Views: 1570

Re: High note technique

Waiting for someone to chime in with a video of everyone's favorite high note wizard, the TRUMPETSIZZLE extraordinaire, KT.
by Redthunder
Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doubling on trombone and cornet
Replies: 15
Views: 513

Re: Doubling on trombone and cornet

hyperbolica wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:03 pm

I don't think this is what he meant. I think he meant that strengthening your trumpet embouchure doesn't help you play high notes on the trombone. There is such a difference in size that one doesn't effect the other very much.
Ahh, that makes much more sense from that perspective.
by Redthunder
Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doubling on trombone and cornet
Replies: 15
Views: 513

Re: Doubling on trombone and cornet

The trumpet and bone embouchures don't have anything to do with one another, according to him. This idea comes up every time doubling is discussed on brass, and I just don't buy it. I mean if that idea helps someone conceptualize something, that's fine, but that doesn't mean we should disregard the...
by Redthunder
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: 5C-ish sized mouthpiece ideas
Replies: 13
Views: 646

Re: 5C-ish sized mouthpiece ideas

I had a lightweight Greg Black 5c small shank, although I never liked the rim and it never quite felt right for me on small bore. You could try to find a regular weight version? Doug’s 101 rim is much more comfy for me though, I’d recommend maybe seeing if he can do something Ditto for this. I also...
by Redthunder
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value Conn 6h
Replies: 10
Views: 1232

Re: Value Conn 6h

...and both these horns didn't need any realignment and were in good condition cosmetically? I think $1,000 is pretty reasonable for a horn that needs nothing. No realignment necessary, and yes, in good condition cosmetically. $1,000 is still high, comparatively for these horns. They just don't pul...
by Redthunder
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Value Conn 6h
Replies: 10
Views: 1232

Re: Value Conn 6h

$1500 is definitely not reasonable. I have two - one I paid around $700, and another was about $1000 from Dillons, but was in excellent condition and came with a valve and slide section. Both mid 50's Elkharts. I recently saw one Abilene era horn listed on eBay for around $1500 - with the justificat...
by Redthunder
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:35 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Chasons Praise
Replies: 2
Views: 275

Re: Chasons Praise

I think it's interesting how well these seem to work for some people and others... not so much. I bought one second hand because I play trumpet a lot to teach, and figured it's worth a try. I ended up finding it even more difficult to play than a regular trumpet mouthpiece. I kept feeling like it wa...
by Redthunder
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Yamaha YSL 653
Replies: 0
Views: 504

FS: Yamaha YSL 653

This is a .500 bore pro model that has since been discontinued. 8 inch bell, yellow brass. From the late 70's, early 80's. It's kind of like a nicer, souped up YSL354, or like a Yamaha 6H equivalent. Slide works nice, and comes in the original Yamaha case it came with. I bought this horn earlier thi...
by Redthunder
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:05 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Oren Marshall
Replies: 7
Views: 22701

Re: Oren Marshall

Dude, your tone is so combative. I’m just trying to give you my perspective. I don't think I was combative just because I disagreed with parts of your comment. I was just responding to your contribution, it doesn't automatically make it contentious. No, I do not agree with you. I believe whether yo...
by Redthunder
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Oren Marshall
Replies: 7
Views: 22701

Re: Oren Marshall

hmm... I don’t think it’s as uncommon as people make it out to be. Blair Bollinger and Justin Clark are both great, upstream bass trombonists. I studied with Mr. Bollinger for a semester in college, so I'm aware of him being an upstream player. There's also a great photo I believe Doug took of him ...
by Redthunder
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Music Performance Majors
Replies: 5
Views: 2570

Re: Music Performance Majors

harrisonreed wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:50 pm
Do the better schools have better instruction, or do you already have to be better to get in?
+1

How long will it be until we collectively start assessing the quality of methods and the effectiveness of instruction, instead of just looking at the end product alone.
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Oren Marshall
Replies: 7
Views: 22701

Re: Oren Marshall

ER..... WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYING ?????? Chris Yes. That's why I posted it, obviously. But it's also worth noting that upstream tubists are often hard to find because LOW RANGE is a struggle for low placement upstream players, and because the large mouthpiece gets in the way of your chin. It's not inc...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:45 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Oren Marshall
Replies: 7
Views: 22701

Oren Marshall

Just found this video of tubist Oren Marshall playing some Bach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2VG_sOfA4Q

He looks like an upstream player... hard to find them!
by Redthunder
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Difference between low pitch and high pitch?
Replies: 7
Views: 1663

Re: Difference between low pitch and high pitch?

If you haven't seen Rick Beato's YouTube videos with his son Dylan, check them out. His theory, which I totally agree with, is that perfect pitch is developed in infancy as sound recognition the same as speech and language. Kids who grow up hearing several different languages in their very early ye...
by Redthunder
Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTT DE ST Parts
Replies: 3
Views: 1409

WTT DE ST Parts

Hi all, Have some DE ST parts I don't use anymore, having moved to larger equipment. I'd love to trade for some XT or LT parts if you've got 'em. ST Rims: ST 97 ST 98 ST 100 ST 100 Lexan ST Cups ST C cup ST C+ cup I'm looking for the following rims/cups LT101N LT102 LT102N LT C Cup LT C+ Cup XT101 X...
by Redthunder
Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Two Cleveland Orchestra musicians fired for sexual misconduct
Replies: 52
Views: 10036

Re: Two Cleveland Orchestra musicians fired for sexual misconduct

But our own actions and speech can influence the culture of the groups we belong to - and in some cases character requires we move out of those groups. This is a great point. I feel, at least from my own experience, that many people I see and work with are hesitant to ever say or do anything to dis...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: What’s your favorite trombone case?
Replies: 43
Views: 6683

Re: What’s your favorite trombone case?

Looks like they have had a design change recently. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/817v373U30L._SL1500_.jpg This is a picture taken from Amazon, and it shows a different strap for the valve section, mine is just a thinner piece of velcro that wraps around the valve section to secur...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:40 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 6843

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl977yuqP-o At 2:10, he states that his students never hear the word embouchure. He also notes that he struggled with range for years, then got the knack through an exercise he demonstrates. Hmm. I suspect that students differ in learning styles, and that some of us ...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:32 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 6843

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

Interesting that there is a debate still going on about ideas that are more than 50 years old. Has there been such a lack of pedagogical progress in the last 50 years ? On the whole, it seems like it. But obviously the existence of individuals like Doug, Dave, and others have defied it. Is it not a...
by Redthunder
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: What’s your favorite trombone case?
Replies: 43
Views: 6683

Re: What’s your favorite trombone case?

How are you finding the velco straps for the handle and the slide internally? Mine are just about flogged out, and barely hold in place anymore. looking to take it to an upholsterer to get it replaced with a better quality velco. The handle straps are fine as of right now. However I don't seem to h...
by Redthunder
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:37 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 6843

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

Sorry, I think my post created a wrong impression. I was simply debating possible reasons for and against making such a film public. I do not know what is the real reason as mentioned in the second sentence of my posting. My goal is not to "alienate him" or anybody else but rather to encourage Mr. ...
by Redthunder
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:50 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 6843

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

One reason for not making it public is to keep the monopoly of knowledge like often done with research in the private sector and with "divine knowledge'' in religions/cults. In the present case, may be the monopoly of knowledge is important for your teaching or mouthpiece making. But monopolies alw...
by Redthunder
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: DE LT102N silver rim
Replies: 2
Views: 618

Re: FS: DE LT102N silver rim

RichEKelly wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:35 am
Very good shape, $30 shipped
Hi Rich,

Is this still available?
by Redthunder
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:54 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teaching Jazz Trombone to kids
Replies: 9
Views: 5445

Re: Teaching Jazz Trombone to kids

Is there any curriculum in the US, as the on for classical music, where is very clear which tunes should be played at each age? No, not that I know of. And I'm not sure there's a clear curriculum that's universally agreed upon for classical music either. Don't worry about teaching specific tunes. I...
by Redthunder
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: What’s your favorite trombone case?
Replies: 43
Views: 6683

Re: What’s your favorite trombone case?

I used a Reunion Blues Double case for a while, and I love it because even thought it's a soft case, it's very well padded and I never had any issues, even when it was dropped and on multiple occasions slipped on ice and fell right on top of it. Also has lots of room in case you only need one horn, ...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:24 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Airmen of Note 1989 concert
Replies: 10
Views: 2615

Re: Airmen of Note 1989 concert

Just ran into another album I'm on, from before I was in the Note. Bill Potts big band - I'm pretty sure this was recorded in 1985, and I think the entire album was done in single takes, live in the studio. The trombone solos are me first, then John Jensen, and then trading. Dave Steinmeyer was pla...
by Redthunder
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:10 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Airmen of Note 1989 concert
Replies: 10
Views: 2615

Re: Airmen of Note 1989 concert

Doug Elliott wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:48 am
Yes that's me.... and my Yamaha 354.
Not too long after I got in the band.
I was also wondering that too... it sounds great!

I'm going to show this to my student that you met over the summer the next time he complains that he doesn't like the sound of his 354 and thinks he needs a new horn...
by Redthunder
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Airmen of Note 1989 concert
Replies: 10
Views: 2615

Airmen of Note 1989 concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-pTNDjXBrY

Doug, are you in this video? At around 1:02:00 minute mark, there's a tune with a trombone soloist that looks like you!
by Redthunder
Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”
Replies: 51
Views: 6843

Re: Doug Elliott’s film “The Brass Player’s Embouchure”

I remember Dave talking to me about this video when I got a lesson from him in Asheville last year. If you want to see something similar - check out the Lloyd Leno film, Lip Vibrations of Trombone Embouchures, which Dave Wilken has shared on youtube. I think it was made sometime in the 1970's, and i...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2177

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

My underscore to Matt' K's post, but I've found that lip flexibilities in myriad ways is key to a strong embouchure, more so than long tones sometimes. Yes, yes, and yes. I would argue it is the key to a strong, correctly functioning embouchure, provided that you're playing with a placement that's ...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:37 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2177

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

I firmly believe in no to minimal shifting but I've never seen it approached from this angle. It's important to note that this approach is exactly what Doug teaches, and what MattK and myself are talking about. There's a difference however between "shifting" as defined as physically moving the mout...
by Redthunder
Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:26 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: John Coffey Mouthpiece
Replies: 6
Views: 1338

Re: John Coffey Mouthpiece

Mine is a #2 and the rim actually measures about .985 which is more of a 7C size. I think Wayne Andre played the same model but I'm not sure and I don't know what the #3 is. I also don't know who made them or when. Earlier in the 1900's there was a Vega Band Instrument Co. in Boston that made trump...
by Redthunder
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:57 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: John Coffey Mouthpiece
Replies: 6
Views: 1338

Re: John Coffey Mouthpiece

Doug Elliott wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:36 am
I have one in my collection. It's sort of 11C -ish. Wayne Andre played one.
Interesting... Do you know if there were other models of it, or the company that made it?
by Redthunder
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:09 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: John Coffey Mouthpiece
Replies: 6
Views: 1338

John Coffey Mouthpiece

https://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Coffey-Go ... SwVYtbs~tl

Just found this. Anybody know anything about these pieces? I remember reading somewhere on TTF about Brookmeyer playing on a Coffey model mouthpiece. It looks small.
by Redthunder
Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Using an upper register setting all the time
Replies: 23
Views: 2177

Re: Using an upper register setting all the time

Evidently it isn't uncommon for people like me to have no problem with high range on larger rims but with inaccuracies. If the set is too low (from nose to chin) then there is too much motion. The higher the range you are playing, the distance beween notes diminishes. Ergo, with that set of factors...
by Redthunder
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Hissy/fuzzy sound
Replies: 11
Views: 1566

Re: Hissy/fuzzy sound

I had one of these, and although I didn't play it much, I remember having the same problem with it.

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