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by timothy42b
Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Two G's. Same but different.
Replies: 18
Views: 505

Re: Two G's. Same but different.

Consider another possibility. As you move your slide out, it is easy to inadvertently move your hand to the right, altering the pressure on your chops.
by timothy42b
Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Long Tones for more even practice?
Replies: 25
Views: 614

Re: Long Tones for more even practice?

When I practice, I always start with the Remington long tones to warm up, but lately I've found that the long tones have only warmed up my middle register. Why start in the middle, anyway? I start in the center of my set, which I call middle register. But what most people call middle register - bas...
by timothy42b
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Aperture Collapse
Replies: 11
Views: 498

Re: Aperture Collapse

Perhaps I'm just directionally challenged... But when I play high, I tend to (and always was taught) to angle the horn downwards.. That is so the end of the slide is pointing closer to the floor. And vice-versa for low. Just trying now doing it the other way feels very unnatural. In that case, you ...
by timothy42b
Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Aperture Collapse
Replies: 11
Views: 498

Re: Aperture Collapse

All I need to do to remedy this is take the horn off my face for about 10 seconds, then I am reset and perfectly good to continue. I get a similar symptom when my mouthpiece slips lower than its optimum setting, which can happen easily especially with loud playing that dips into low or middle range...
by timothy42b
Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Ballroom Bells: advantages/disadvantages?
Replies: 15
Views: 891

Re: Ballroom Bells: advantages/disadvantages?

I don't like a nose heavy horn. It would seem a set back bell might balance better fore and aft. Side to side torque is still a problem.
by timothy42b
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:46 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Comment on Doug's lessons
Replies: 1
Views: 240

Comment on Doug's lessons

One of the community bands I play with has a small trumpet section, usually only three people show up. (I'm usually the only trombone, though we bring some ringers in for concerts.) Last night the director told me she thought Doug Elliott was improving her band. She said the two trumpet players who ...
by timothy42b
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:25 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Replace string rotary valve with different mechanism?
Replies: 20
Views: 3257

Re: Replace string rotary valve with different mechanism?

PaulT wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:35 am
I got fed up with both types of linkages so I just got rid of them. Now I just turn the valve by hand. I have to put the horn down and stop playing for a few notes, but the short breaks keep my lips fresh.
Bravo!!!!!!
by timothy42b
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:07 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: alto that plays like a tenor
Replies: 27
Views: 1087

Re: alto that plays like a tenor

Thanks all. I appreciate the feedback, particularly the consensus that an alto may not be the solution. I've been on a straight tenor a couple of weeks now, a silver .500 Getzen I bought from someone here at a great price years ago. (I no longer remember who.) It is definitely easier to hold than th...
by timothy42b
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:05 pm
Schlitz wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:57 pm
Y’all know that Snorsworthy is out there in the stix waiting for you......
Oh boy. I hope not... He's taken to Facebook as of late.
And Tubenet.
by timothy42b
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:28 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: alto that plays like a tenor
Replies: 27
Views: 1087

Re: alto that plays like a tenor

I have no doubt that in the sophisticated world of the symphony the alto vs tenor is obvious. Do you really think in an average community band audience there is anyone who can tell the difference? I'm not bein argumentative, I'm really asking an honest question. I've played a pBone alto in rehearsal...
by timothy42b
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:25 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Spit valve
Replies: 7
Views: 397

Re: Spit valve

Well, my maintenance did make a huge difference. Apparently there was enough crud in that groove (I used a toothbrush on it) to slow down emptying. Also, on my 42B pressing the valve drains the water without blowing, but the Amado requires a little breath. I didn't know that.
by timothy42b
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

Well, the proof is in the pudding. Different materials respond and sound different, and carbon fiber is far more different than yellow brass is from gold brass or even sterling silver. Whether we understand the mechanism behind that doesn't really matter. True, nobody has proposed a mechanism that ...
by timothy42b
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: alto that plays like a tenor
Replies: 27
Views: 1087

Re: alto that plays like a tenor

I remember a few years ago a Trombone Forum member posted a picture of a counter-balance device he made with a metal rod, some weights, and a hose clamp. Yes. Ken, went by Naja...........something. Interesting design. I built one, and it works. It balances my 42B nicely. The horn becomes weightless...
by timothy42b
Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: alto that plays like a tenor
Replies: 27
Views: 1087

alto that plays like a tenor

Yes, I know an alto is supposed to play distinctly differently from a tenor, and you are supposed to buy an alto because you need the alto sound. But that's not why I want one. As I age it gets harder and harder to hold a trombone. I've moved from my 42B to a lighter straight tenor in the past coupl...
by timothy42b
Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

Tapping the bell with your fingers is at least a million times the force of the sound wave, that's all I was saying. Mechanical structures vibrate at the frequencies that are driving them. They have no ability to generate any new ones. This is really basic engineering. They absorb some tiny amount o...
by timothy42b
Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Spit valve
Replies: 7
Views: 397

Re: Spit valve

That machining is beyond my skills.

I did take it apart. That circlip is tiny and fragile. Yeah, the channel was a little gunky, I used a mouthpiece brush on the big hole and pipe cleaner on the little. We'll see at rehearsal tomorrow if it helped.
by timothy42b
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy
Replies: 8
Views: 542

Re: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy

We had a few people here who made a strong argument that a G valve would serve most of us tenor players much better than the traditional F, for the same reasons you are using an Ab. Why did you choose yours?
by timothy42b
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tennis Racquet Grip Tape
Replies: 11
Views: 480

Re: Tennis Racquet Grip Tape

For some reason I no longer remember I put tennis racket tape on a golf club.

I haven't played in a decade or so but had to dig it out for a special event last month. Practicing with that taped golf club turned my hands black, even though the tape didn't look that bad.
by timothy42b
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

Any conclusion suggesting that the brass does not vibrate or contribute to the timbre is demonstrably false. At low dynamic levels this may be true, but anyone can do an experiment at home to disprove that conclusion broadly. Just play louder and louder until the instrument begins to vibrate in you...
by timothy42b
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

What I'd be really curious about is whether carbon fiber is as great a substitute for brass as it is for wood. Careful design of string instruments can very closely approximate the acoustic behavior of wood, despite being lighter... Unfortunately mass has quite a bit to do with how anything sounds ...
by timothy42b
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Spit valve
Replies: 7
Views: 397

Spit valve

I'm having enough left arm aches that I put the 42B away and dug out my small bore for last night's rehearsal. It's a .500 Getzen, came with slide and valves. I bought it here but don't remember from whom. And............it has an Amado spit valve. I went nuts last night trying to empty it during pi...
by timothy42b
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: half-rant half-cry-for-help ("Cold" (warmup lost) after long rests)
Replies: 16
Views: 536

Re: half-rant half-cry-for-help ("Cold" (warmup lost) after long rests)

I think your physical warmup lasts longer than your perceived warmup. You're probably really good for 3 hours rather than the 20 minutes or so you think.
by timothy42b
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

They really need a chair/stand like sousaphone players use.
by timothy42b
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?
Replies: 40
Views: 1418

Re: Why not a Carbon Fiber Contra?

It's new technology. Give it a few years, it will come down to the price of high end brass.
by timothy42b
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Slide cleaning
Replies: 7
Views: 764

Re: Slide cleaning

Well I personally don't have bigger issues. I purchased a horn that's been sitting for quite awhile. The slide was gross now just not as clean as I'd like. I used a combination of warm water/white vinegar/a drop of dawn and soaked it twice. Was just curious about the use of Oxyclean. If needed I'll...
by timothy42b
Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: New Butler, or Butler mod
Replies: 8
Views: 506

Re: New Butler, or Butler mod

Dave Butler made a comment to me about the C-12 in regards to the point from which the horn begins to project. He said that most instruments begin to project almost immediately at the end of the bell, but that the C-12 begins that point of projection about a foot beyond the bell. Evidently, the sti...
by timothy42b
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:58 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Hand support for a DuoGravis?
Replies: 16
Views: 641

Re: Hand support for a DuoGravis?

I played a Duo Gravis in the late 70s. It was a school horn I was borrowing, and I was not a bass player. I think I had carpal tunnel symptoms relatively quickly. So I don't remember exactly how the setup went or if this would work on a King. But FWIW, I'm now having joint problems in the left hand,...
by timothy42b
Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Rehearsal piano for choir
Replies: 2
Views: 195

Re: Rehearsal piano for choir

Is this for the choir to rehearse their parts, or the director to rehearse the choir? I've done both, but I do them a little differently. For the choir, I write the parts out in notation with each voice on a separate staff. Then I save it four times, each time with one voice set to loud and the othe...
by timothy42b
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:37 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Ergobone or other aid and slide technique
Replies: 0
Views: 198

Ergobone or other aid and slide technique

Random thoughts on a weekend, just returned from Seattle for work and trying to get my sleep schedule back to East Coast time zone. I've been having some left arm issues supporting the trombone, not unusual at my age!. I had to move to pBone. But I've just experimented with a Ken designed cantilever...
by timothy42b
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Sitting or Standing?
Replies: 10
Views: 533

Re: Sitting or Standing?

Oh. Occasionally I play a parade, though it's been a while now. I have one of those mini jogging tramps, and I dig it out and play scales while marching for about a week before.
by timothy42b
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Sitting or Standing?
Replies: 10
Views: 533

Re: Sitting or Standing?

You need to practice both, because you perform at both. I had an occasion where I thought I would sit, and the group ended up standing. The music stand I'd brought did not go high enough and I couldn't see. Depending on bifocals, etc., vision and stand height has to be worked out for all possibiliti...
by timothy42b
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pinched Nerve
Replies: 19
Views: 808

Re: Pinched Nerve

My elbow hurt so bad (on the outside - I never remember if that's golf elbow or tennis elbow) that I put the trigger horn away and have been playing the pBone, the only thing I can lift comfortably at the moment. I don't know if playing caused it but it absolutely aggravated it. If my plastic pBone ...
by timothy42b
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Strangest gigs
Replies: 48
Views: 2424

Re: Strangest gigs

Ah ! Herald Trumpets ! The concerts always began with the National Anthem augmented by the Herald Trumpets --- a dazzling display, indeed ! Huh. Years ago I was at an Army conference, opened with a recording of the National Anthem, and it was an arrangement I'd never heard. It had lots of high trum...
by timothy42b
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Electrical tape
Replies: 16
Views: 788

Re: Electrical tape

The bit about the rubber bumpers falling off the end of the slide and changing the sound started as a joke on the old trombone-L list that predated all of the web sites. This was in the middle 90's. I know this was a joke because I was in on starting it up with several other trombonists in the NYC ...
by timothy42b
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: My experience with orthodontics so far
Replies: 13
Views: 562

Re: My experience with orthodontics so far

I found my copy of Farkas. Nope, I remembered wrong, the V shaped teeth thing was not in there. Probably I got that out of Anatowind. I was a little surprised to re-read what he wrote way back then, and how strange some of it seemed. He insisted that horns should place the mouthpiece high, 2/3 upper...
by timothy42b
Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Strangest gigs
Replies: 48
Views: 2424

Re: Strangest gigs

Most money I ever made with a polka band, we were playing a wedding dance in some hall in northern Wisconsin. This old guy kept at us to play some rock and roll. Not really our thing, but he tipped us a couple of times, and then someone else whispered to us that he was from Chicago, he was "connecte...
by timothy42b
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:56 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Electrical tape
Replies: 16
Views: 788

Re: Electrical tape

Could a tight wrapping of electric tape on the gooseneck effect the natural vibration of the horn? I do not believe so. I do not think it can damp brass vibrations anywhere near as much as your hand gripping the horn can, and that isn't that much. Others disagree. I once wrapped the entire bell wit...
by timothy42b
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Strangest gigs
Replies: 48
Views: 2424

Re: Strangest gigs

There's a big horse show in Madison, WI every year and I got hired to play with a brass quintet to provide background music while the horses rode. There was also an organist there and we switched off playing tunes. The strange part was where we played - we were on a platform in the middle of the ri...
by timothy42b
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: My experience with orthodontics so far
Replies: 13
Views: 562

Re: My experience with orthodontics so far

Any comment on the V <=> high range connection? I think that was in Farkas's Art of Brass Playing. He thought people with flatter teeth had mellower tones and ended up doing better on tuba or euphonium, people with more v shaped teeth had more brilliance and played trumpet and trombone. I could be ...
by timothy42b
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Spit Valve woes...
Replies: 40
Views: 2189

Re: Spit Valve woes...

Other arguments aside, my thinking on this has evolved. Dumping our spit is kind of gross, and it is pretty easy to take care of it. It's not much different from having a bag to take our trash with, rather than littering. I use the plastic lid from a coffee canister. I have several and leave one in ...
by timothy42b
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pinched Nerve
Replies: 19
Views: 808

Re: Pinched Nerve

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I've started having finger numbness after some activities, especially playing recorder and sometimes driving. It feels like a glove anesthiea and takes quite a while to wear off. Obviously there's some kind of nerve impact here too, with the arms raised. Any id...
by timothy42b
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Tuning Valve Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 520

Re: Tuning Valve Trombone

No, he's right. If the horn is sharp, and the individual valves are not tuned well, then flattening the whole horn should exaggerate the out of tuneness of the valve notes. Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. In relation to the lowered tuning note, the valved notes would be out of tune. Yes. The lo...
by timothy42b
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:30 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Long notes....
Replies: 14
Views: 929

Re: Long notes....

If someone is sceptical about this I understand. No teacher has ever taught this and I had never heard about it until I saw the video Sam had put on his page. /Tom Fundamentals of Musical Acoustics, by Benade in 1976, describes a method of adjusting trumpet mouthpieces by playing a note and listeni...
by timothy42b
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Medieval military trombonist.
Replies: 24
Views: 1243

Re: Medieval military trombonist.

In reference to Bruce's observation about the "Garklein" of the recorder family : The sopranino recorder is actually larger than the "Garklein" and actually sounds sweet in comparison. The "Garklein" will even send D Flat piccolo players running with their hands tightly clasped over their ears ! Ne...
by timothy42b
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Tuning Valve Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 520

Re: Tuning Valve Trombone

I'm not understanding what you're saying. The trombone is 1/2 step sharp, but tuning the Bb made all the other notes go more out of tune? If the Bb is 1/2 step sharp, you should pull out the main tuning slide. That would make ALL the notes lower, so I don't see how it's possible that would make the...
by timothy42b
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Sarabande from 5th suite J.S. Bach
Replies: 31
Views: 1341

Re: Sarabande from 5th suite J.S. Bach

If it is a dance, that implies some limitation on rubato. It need not be metronomic, but it should be danceable or at least suggest it. I hear cello players (and trombone players) using extreme amounts of rubato, and it sounds wrong to my ears. It is as if they are free to do anything they want wit...
by timothy42b
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Sarabande from 5th suite J.S. Bach
Replies: 31
Views: 1341

Re: Sarabande from 5th suite J.S. Bach

If it is a dance, that implies some limitation on rubato. It need not be metronomic, but it should be danceable or at least suggest it. I hear cello players (and trombone players) using extreme amounts of rubato, and it sounds wrong to my ears. It is as if they are free to do anything they want with...
by timothy42b
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Terms: Bb3, C5, G4 ?
Replies: 11
Views: 636

Re: Terms: Bb3, C5, G4 ?

When I started with this employer I was required to take annual hearing tests. A few promotions later that requirement disappeared, and many years later I took that internet hearing test that showed how much high frequency I'd lost. So I asked if they still had my old files at work, and if I could c...
by timothy42b
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Terms: Bb3, C5, G4 ?
Replies: 11
Views: 636

Re: Terms: Bb3, C5, G4 ?

Scientific pitch notation is also associated with Scientific pitch , although I'm really not sure it was invented at the same time, I think the notation system is a much later invention. Scientific pitch is a tuning system that is based on assigning to each octave of C pitches that are exact powers...
by timothy42b
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Practice mute making trombone out of balance
Replies: 10
Views: 719

Re: Practice mute making trombone out of balance

All mutes make my horn nose heavy. The answer is a counterweight, or a cantilever.

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