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by timothy42b
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:24 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Rude Awakening
Replies: 18
Views: 990

Re: Rude Awakening

If it please your neighbor to break the sacred calm of night with the snorting of an unholy trombone, it is your duty to put up with his wretched music and your privilege to pity him for the unhappy instinct that moves him to delight in such discordant sounds. I did not always think thus: this consi...
by timothy42b
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Inauguration
Replies: 70
Views: 2631

Re: Inauguration

One thing that's often annoyed me is the treatment of "home.........of THE.........brave." The pitches and rhythm would put emphasis on the least important word in the whole phrase, and some singers make it worse. Some years back I was at a large military conference with a number of generals. It mig...
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Is it allowed to play like this?
Replies: 12
Views: 719

Re: Is it allowed to play like this?

Still, not sure why you'd use it as an opportunity to take a cheap rip at the Bach cello suites. Maybe they don't lie perfectly on the trombone, but it is very useful to aspire to greatness. Everybody plays the cello suites (which were written for practice, not performance, by the way). I've heard ...
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:21 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Where do you play B natural?
Replies: 28
Views: 1284

Re: Where do you play B natural?

An easy exercise to do would be to set up a long drone tone from either a tuning app that plays tones or score app like Musescore that lets you plunk any note down and repeat it First do a B drone and practice a unison. That will tell you where the equal tempered B is. Then make an E drone and prac...
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:18 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 39
Views: 1661

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

Chords. I asked my brother (clarinet player in trad jazz settings) how to play along with a simple tune. He said you can fake it, play sol la ti do into the next chord. Then he thought. "Uh, you always know what chord you're on, right?" Well, at the time, no, that had never occurred to me. Epiphany.
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:41 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Is it allowed to play like this?
Replies: 12
Views: 719

Re: Is it allowed to play like this?

Gorgeous tone. Wow. I always enjoy what you share. Trombone players sometimes perform the Bach Cello suites in public, and some of us trombone players appreciate them; I've yet to meet a nontrombone player who thinks they sound good on trombone. I have not heard any trombone version of the suites (a...
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Embochure fatigue
Replies: 27
Views: 1705

Re: Embochure fatigue

... I even invited him to join TC when it went online. But he didn't want to. Probably because people are lacking respect. Did the same. He told me people seemed more interested in learning and exploration on FB. Perhaps he tried everything, and that's what worked. There were some very accomplished...
by timothy42b
Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 39
Views: 1661

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

I think there are two aspects to this. One is that as others have pointed out the trombone is much harder to produce a stream of notes on than a sax. Certainly I can't come close, some of you have much more facility than I do. But the other is that a sax blowing a stream of notes can sound pretty go...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:26 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide
Replies: 21
Views: 1015

Re: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide

So the entire Butler inner is metal? didn't know that. pBone slides can be pretty slick right after waxing but for me it doesn't last. List member Phillip is very good at it though, his work well. They get sticky with moisture, it feels like suction. But the light weight makes them usable anyway.
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:18 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide
Replies: 21
Views: 1015

Re: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide

pBone slide crooks and braces are injection molded plastic. But inner and outer slides are fiber reinforced resin, same basic principle as the carbon fiber. Wax on the brass stocking is critical because otherwise it quickly corrodes and drags. You do have to occasionally polish. If you did that when...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:57 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB - PBONE
Replies: 2
Views: 269

Re: WTB - PBONE

They're $150 on Amazon and the mini is $99 at multiple places. You can't do much better than that.

We should all have one of each.

Your mouthpiece probably cost more.
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:47 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide
Replies: 21
Views: 1015

Re: maintaining a smooth working carbon fibre slide

My pBone mini slide does a similar thing. Dry it's not bad, but as soon as breath condenses or spit accumulates there is a suction feeling drag. I yank the slide off and dry the inner slide about every three minutes. Of course with the shorter alto slides that's not difficult, it would be hard on a ...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece material
Replies: 29
Views: 1762

Re: Mouthpiece material

The impedance mismatch between brass and air must be huge. I would think it is based on the different speeds of sound in the media. If so the energy transfer between air and brass must be small. I'm not sure how rigidly the mouthpiece couples to the rest of the brass structure. I just tapped a mouth...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:29 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece material
Replies: 29
Views: 1762

Re: Mouthpiece material

hyperbolica wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 am

The air column is where the sound comes from,
Yes.
but the air column induces the metal
Yes.
which reinforces air inside and outside the instrument's air column to vibrate.


Um..................not sure at all there's anything to that. Evidence?
by timothy42b
Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:41 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece material
Replies: 29
Views: 1762

Re: Mouthpiece material

t doesn't seem to affect my playing much, it has just become a habit of mine to empty spit and wipe the mouthpiece during rests and wash my piece every night when I brush my teeth Good habit. I don't have the lip gunk but I play near the basement sink and I rinse the mouthpiece every time i finish ...
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:25 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Headaches?
Replies: 33
Views: 1705

Re: Headaches?

BTW I have asked my sports medicine specialist and physical therapist for exercises to support playing this asymmetrical, un-ergonomic instrument. Neither of them plays trombone, but they’re still helpful. That's a good point. We hold a heavy awkward unergonomic instrument with one hand for hours a...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 2012

Re: Getzen student horns?

There is no hex stock on mine. The braces are round and the ferrules solid and nicely grooved. It's built like a tank. There is no model or serial number anywhere on the bell or slide. The valve section is marked KN1377 on the valve cluster. The seller (from the forum here, but I no longer recall wh...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Getzen student horns?
Replies: 28
Views: 2012

Re: Getzen student horns?

My Getzen is built very well. I have no idea what model it is, there are no markings. It came in a case with a slide section and a valve section so you can play it either way. Two things I don't like: it has an Amado water valve, and instead of a rubber bumper it has a thick metal brace added to the...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cheap Altos
Replies: 43
Views: 4190

Re: Cheap Altos

As I have said again and again, you don't play alto trombone from tenor like a saxophone player goes between instruments. The alto trombone is a separate and distinct instrument -- not just a "small tenor". Mine is played like a small tenor. :shuffle: Of course some of that is the Bach 4 I have stu...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cheap Altos
Replies: 43
Views: 4190

Re: Cheap Altos

Well, shoot, it won't preview on box, and nobody downloads.

Let's try this:

by timothy42b
Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:53 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cheap Altos
Replies: 43
Views: 4190

Re: Cheap Altos

Ah, well, I shouldn't do this but I will. I've been playing my mini pBone because it's light and my shoulder hurts. And I've been working on ear playing because I'm not good at it. Like here, where i forgot what note I was on and got lost. I take one of the church hymns and play by ear in different ...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cheap Altos
Replies: 43
Views: 4190

Re: Cheap Altos

Hickey's has a pBone mini for $99. They aren't great but they do work. Everybody should have one, more if they have kids.
by timothy42b
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)
Replies: 69
Views: 4195

Re: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)

• Carefully clean slides ( both inner and outer) after each use, and store dry . I think moisture is the enemy of brass. While we play it's going to stay wet but it can be dry more of the time. I keep mine dry on the stand, with the outer slide removed and hung over the hand brace upside down. That...
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:47 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Underplayed Classical Tenor Solo Rep
Replies: 43
Views: 2031

Re: Underplayed Classical Tenor Solo Rep

i just can't get behind the cynical thinking about modern music or trombone repertoire in general. audiences don't just want comfort food and classical music is not just a bunch of 'member berries, and if you believe in the music (truly believe it's good and worthwhile) and can give the audience so...
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: underrated, overrated, rated....
Replies: 36
Views: 2432

Re: underrated, overrated, rated....

I recently read a book that included a statistical method for finding your ideal spouse. Perhaps this would apply to trombones. I can't recall which book, but it was nonfiction and in other respects reading it was worthwhile. Here is the method: date 10 people. Whichever one was best of the ten, fix...
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:27 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: How to improve internal hearing
Replies: 3
Views: 662

Re: How to improve internal hearing

I think working on playing simple tunes by ear in various keys might help. It is helping me. But, it's a skill I don't have, so it forces me to both think the note and remember where I am. If I were better then muscle memory would take over, as it does if I get too familiar with a tune in a particul...
by timothy42b
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:27 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Underplayed Classical Tenor Solo Rep
Replies: 43
Views: 2031

Re: Underplayed Classical Tenor Solo Rep

**Controversial opinion below alert** I think nobody goes to trombone recitals because, in terms of broad appeal, the VAST majority of the rep doesn't even come close to comparing to Mozart, Brahms, Beethoven, etc. etc. I think there's some truth to that but I think there's another factor that gets...
by timothy42b
Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:10 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Whistling
Replies: 27
Views: 2691

Re: Whistling

Does anyone have any advice on learning to whistle? I've clearly been doing it totally wrong all this time. Or, not doing it totally wrong.

Just now I've been able to make some tiny squeaks that might be a whistle except a dog would need a hearing aid to pick them up. What is the secret?
by timothy42b
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)
Replies: 69
Views: 4195

Re: Trombones wear out in 10 years (says Paris Opera)

Pretty sure it depends on how loud you play.
by timothy42b
Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Whistling
Replies: 27
Views: 2691

Re: Whistling

When I first watched the Epstein video, I agreed with baileyman (and still do.) Much of what he says does not make sense from a physics standpoint, and metaphors mean different things to different people. But I did find his application useful anyway, even if I think it's for different reasons than h...
by timothy42b
Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Whistling
Replies: 27
Views: 2691

Re: Whistling

I suspect that if you can whistle, the tongue positions that you use to whistle well transfer to trombone.

But if you can't whistle to begin with, like me, those tongue shapes still matter on trombone.
by timothy42b
Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Whistling
Replies: 27
Views: 2691

Re: Whistling

If I gained 3 notes I would then have 4.

I've always been unable to whistle a tune and I've worked on it a good bit.
by timothy42b
Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:57 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: In praise of the humble analog metronome
Replies: 11
Views: 1385

Re: In praise of the humble analog metronome

Mine is a Seth Thomas. It gets a lot of use, not just for trombone but also as a timer. Set it to 60, and use it to time your planks, e.g.
by timothy42b
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: To the service techs
Replies: 14
Views: 2027

Re: To the service techs

FWIW, my pBone mini is playable only when I put the slide on upside down. Right side up it is too sticky.
by timothy42b
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:05 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Chewbacca Sound
Replies: 9
Views: 2397

Re: Chewbacca Sound

Another thought. I've played with someone who generally plays well but occasionally gets a tight strained sound that is kind of chewbaca like. He has quite a bit of motion and it is opposite to mine - while I as a high placement 3A move up when I ascend, he moves down to ascend. A lot. As I understa...
by timothy42b
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Chewbacca Sound
Replies: 9
Views: 2397

Re: Chewbacca Sound

I youtubed chewbacca and that doesn't sound like a double buzz to me but of course we haven't heard what you sound like. Chewbacca sounds like the tight strangled sound you get if you try to play loud with your teeth closed. You can close your teeth and play pianissimo like the trumpet players do wh...
by timothy42b
Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler
Replies: 28
Views: 3321

Re: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler

The timing of the discovery doesn't really match his description in the preface to the Encyclopedia, which I read this morning.

But it doesn't matter. I enjoyed that recording.
by timothy42b
Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler
Replies: 28
Views: 3321

Re: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler

Impressive for any age. Donald S Reinhardt Doug, do you know anything about whether this recording was made before or after Reinhardt's tuning slide accident that sparked his initial explorations of individualized brass technique? That was my first thought too. His book talks about struggles with r...
by timothy42b
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler
Replies: 28
Views: 3321

Re: Blue Bells from a hichgschooler

That playing would have been impressive from any age player. (Imagine, he didn't even have youtube to learn from!)

It also seemed you can go a lot faster if you don't try to play too loudly. Would that have been a small bore tenor at that time?
by timothy42b
Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Anybody crash a bellringer?
Replies: 9
Views: 1887

Re: Anybody crash a bellringer?

For the past few years there has been a request locally for people to play along with bell ringers. Apparently revenues almost double when there's another instrument.

However in times of covid that just won't work, at least where I see the bell ringers stand. No way.
by timothy42b
Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:08 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Time to buy a new computer mouse
Replies: 21
Views: 8470

Re: Time to buy a new computer mouse

I've been using a Kensington trackball Slim Blade in my home office where I work daily for at least 10 years. Clean lint occasionally. Doesn't require charging or a mouse pad, doesn't need space to move around, doesn't hurt my wrist. I'm a CAD user and writer, so it sees a lot of daily use. This. I...
by timothy42b
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Probably a dumb question but ...
Replies: 17
Views: 3046

Re: Probably a dumb question but ...

OOH! The multi-bore trombone! Draw the inners with an oval cross-section on the ID - .500" in one direction and .562" in the other direction. The best of both worlds! From smallish tenor to a bass in one horn! Make the rest of the horn the same way (including oval ports in the rotors and an oval be...
by timothy42b
Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:19 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Probably a dumb question but ...
Replies: 17
Views: 3046

Re: Probably a dumb question but ...

Not a dumb question - better to ask now than to make a mistake later. I Googled your horn model and found some sites say it is .562 bore at the slides, some say .571. Have your local instrument tech check for sure. If you don't have somebody nearby or they are not open right now, see if you can bor...
by timothy42b
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: School Experience
Replies: 28
Views: 2720

Re: School Experience

I'm going to speculate wildly and repeat some stereotypes that may have no validity. My angle here is personality fit. But it seems like the life of a classical performance major, besides being pretty hard to find employment in, demands a rather high level of conformity. The standards for tone, arti...
by timothy42b
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Innovations you'd like to see
Replies: 181
Views: 14484

Re: Innovations you'd like to see

I suspect fewer lefties on trombone. Requiring almost no dexterity, most lefties play the trombone right handed. That is probably true for some, but I suspect another reason applies also. We've had this discussion a number of times, and conventional wisdom is just force the lefties to play right ha...
by timothy42b
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Innovations you'd like to see
Replies: 181
Views: 14484

Re: Innovations you'd like to see

I suspect fewer lefties on trombone.
by timothy42b
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:53 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Slide grip/technique
Replies: 16
Views: 2915

Re: Slide grip/technique

Look on YouTube at good pros in all genres. Most hold the slide in a similar way....and not the way that often is recommended....It's a funny facet of trombone instruction that players seem coy about. Perhaps players find that they cannot find a good justification for their holding technique, so te...
by timothy42b
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Weird lip problem
Replies: 41
Views: 4412

Re: Weird lip problem

I've always wondered. If Sensodyne can numb parts of your teeth that are sensitive, does it do the same thing to your lips? that might not be a good thing.
by timothy42b
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Innovations you'd like to see
Replies: 181
Views: 14484

Re: Innovations you'd like to see

If the inner and outer slides included materials with opposite magnetic polarities, would the slide ride like maglev trains? Not that I want iron/steel slides nor slides that slick magnetically to music stands/trombone stands/chairs/etc..... :) I doubt this hair-brained idea would ever work. The po...

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