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by bbocaner
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath R9 Lead pipe issues
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Rath R9 Lead pipe issues

I'd suggest talking to Tim at Rath. Most of Rath's leadpipe options are in the form of different alloys. Beyond that they have one basic design in a few different variations of more or less open than standard. But I do know that they have some experiments with other tapers they've tried and if you d...
by bbocaner
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS Rath R9D
Replies: 6
Views: 320

Re: FS Rath R9D

the bronze slide and nickel silver bell is a magic combination!
by bbocaner
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

I like the way Shires instruments play, a lot, but I'm starting to move away from them for similar reasons. Just a lot of little quality issues which all add up. They used to be more willing to fix them for you then they are now.
by bbocaner
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

They are aware of the issue and say it's a Shires problem and Shires says it's normal wear and tear.
by bbocaner
Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Shires Bass Valve set
Replies: 3
Views: 276

Re: WTB: Shires Bass Valve set

I am selling my independent trubore valve set. I’ll have to do some research on what they are going for...
by bbocaner
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: 8" Shires Bell Flare (USED)
Replies: 2
Views: 138

Re: WTB: 8" Shires Bell Flare (USED)

I have a 7glw8 and a regular 8.5” 2RVET7 I’m interested in selling. Send me a message.
by bbocaner
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff
Replies: 4
Views: 393

Re: WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff

StevenHolloway wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:20 pm
How much are you asking for the TB47?
Hi Steven. $850 seems to be the going rate for used Shires slides in good shape, plus shipping. Thanks!
by bbocaner
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.
Replies: 27
Views: 4191

Re: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.

So I want to know if Artist line of BAC bones is made in USA or in China? From the FAQ on their web site: Artist Series Instruments are designed by B.A.C. Craftsmen in Kansas City, and produced to our specifications in the Beijing, and Tianjin Region of China. That's a lot of money for a Chinese in...
by bbocaner
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:19 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff
Replies: 4
Views: 393

Re: WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff

Also willing to sell Shires instruments and parts outright to fund Rath purchases...
by bbocaner
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:17 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff
Replies: 4
Views: 393

WTT: Shires stuff for Rath stuff

It's funny, I used to dislike the way Rath trombones played, but my tastes are evolving and I want to make some changes in my stable. Here's what I have available: small bore: S1YM8 bell section (area of patched lacquer approximately 2 inches square on both sides of bell flare where it was polished ...
by bbocaner
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Henry Distin, anyone?
Replies: 4
Views: 152

Re: Henry Distin, anyone?

And you might also be interested in this CD by my friends in the Prince Regent's band. They've done a recording recreating a program of the Distin family band, using many original Distin (London) instruments. It's spectacular playing!

http://www.princeregentsband.com/audio/
by bbocaner
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:22 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Henry Distin, anyone?
Replies: 4
Views: 152

Re: Henry Distin, anyone?

The Distin family started a brass quintet in the early 19th century. They started on natural horns and english slide trumpets but met with Adolphe Sax early on and switched to saxhorns. They toured A LOT, played concerts and resold instruments and their arrangements as a dealer for Sax and other mak...
by bbocaner
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Tuning Valve Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 356

Re: Tuning Valve Trombone

you're saying the open notes are almost a half step sharp? That's a lot. What kind of valve trombone is this? Is it possible it isn't meant to tune at A440? You need to start with the main tuning slide so those notes are in tune. Once that's done, Bruce's advice will point you in the right direction.
by bbocaner
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Rath R10
Replies: 2
Views: 267

Re: Rath R10

Where are you located?
by bbocaner
Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: trombone contrabbasso Verdi (AKA old italian "cimbasso")
Replies: 2
Views: 196

Re: WTB: trombone contrabbasso Verdi (AKA old italian "cimbasso")

Interested, Chris, do you have photos you could send over? Is it marked with a maker's name?
by bbocaner
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: trombone contrabbasso Verdi (AKA old italian "cimbasso")
Replies: 2
Views: 196

WTB: trombone contrabbasso Verdi (AKA old italian "cimbasso")

To use on a HIP gig I've got, I'm looking to purchase an old 19th or early 20th century italian valve contrabass trombone. This is similar to what we now call a "cimbasso" but smaller bore and possibly in BBb with three or four valves. Also could be an upright instrument like a very small bore tuba....
by bbocaner
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Cleaning rod and cloth wedged in inner slide!
Replies: 14
Views: 854

Re: Cleaning rod and cloth wedged in inner slide!

cleaning rod isn't for the inners. have you tried cutting the handle off the cleaning rod and pushing it all the way through?
by bbocaner
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Good Pro Alto
Replies: 25
Views: 982

Re: Good Pro Alto

I like my TIS shires a lot but someone I met who's a shires artist tells me that the new bell-tuning model is really special. I bought shires because all of my other trombones are shires and I thought it'd be nice to have a matching set, but there was a red-belled rath I tried at dillon music that s...
by bbocaner
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Learning fingerings in different keys?
Replies: 1
Views: 171

Re: Learning fingerings in different keys?

There isn't a quick fix, you have to build up the muscle memory and brain to hand relationship the same way you did with Bb fingerings: scales, arban book, practice. Go back to the beginning.
by bbocaner
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass Trumpet
Replies: 6
Views: 596

Re: Bass Trumpet

The piston bass trumpets seem to like something in the 12c neighborhood to sound trumpet-like. Some of the rotary instruments you can get away with a little bigger depending on exactly the design as there is a lot of variation there. There is practically zero solo literature specifically for the bas...
by bbocaner
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thayer french horn
Replies: 25
Views: 1194

Re: Thayer french horn

Oh, interesting. Thanks for that. Might be difficult to get the 2nd valve compensating loop short enough.
by bbocaner
Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thayer french horn
Replies: 25
Views: 1194

Re: Thayer french horn

I don't see how that would work, the whole idea of the valve is that the whole valve rotates around the axis of the input tubing - aka axial. That doesn't work with more than one tube coming in the center of the cone. I suppose you might be able to work out how to have a second valve off on the side...
by bbocaner
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex is letting down
Replies: 22
Views: 1740

Re: Wessex is letting down

Oh that makes me sad. I met Chip at the Wessex trade stand and he was a very friendly and cool guy. And the small-bore trombones he was making with Wessex played great!!
by bbocaner
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thayer french horn
Replies: 25
Views: 1194

Re: Thayer french horn

There was a period during the 1990s that the TVI ads in the ITA Journal had a little blurb at the bottom that said "coming soon - a 4-valve euphonium". Those aluminum core valves needed so much maintenance that I'm sure the whole instrument would have needed to come apart, I can't imagine what a mes...
by bbocaner
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

No, it's epoxy lacquer.
by bbocaner
Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Literature on Verdi's Cimbasso
Replies: 7
Views: 485

Re: Literature on Verdi's Cimbasso

Cimbasso often meant "whatever your guy has". Sometimes it was more of a contrabass trombone or valved contrabass trombone. Sometimes it was an ophicleide or some sort of upright serpent. It takes some score study to figure out which was intended for a particular work. To complicate matters, there w...
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

Yes, I follow you. It's hard to tell with the borescope. I suspect it's possible I misread the inside photos.
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

Well, it essentially is, but it’s starting from the outside in rather than the inside out. So if that’s true it’s currently just superficial.
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

So I had a discussion today with someone who I believe knows exactly what happened here. He mentioned that the same exact thing happened to his slide. It's the glue that marcus bonna uses to put the cases together. The fumes that off gas from the glue attacks the lacquer on certain brands of instrum...
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:44 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3097

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

But that really makes my point, doesn't it? A bassoon that is longer, but is still in the same "key"? Then "key" refers to the fingering system, not the actual physical length of the instrument. Have you ever heard a tuba player say, "I can't play this part because it's a BBb tuba part and I have a...
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: Media
Topic: I Fedeli YouTube channel (feat. sackbuts!)
Replies: 5
Views: 405

Re: I Fedeli YouTube channel (feat. sackbuts!)

love it! it's especially cool to see the slide trumpet
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3097

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

I think what's sticking in Hyperbolica's craw is the fact that we have a 9 foot instrument with a valve that we call "bass trombone" when most of us play a 9 foot instrument with an F-valve that we call a tenor trombone. I understand that but, as I pointed out in the saxhorn family example above, t...
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3097

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Key is irrelevant for non transposing instruments. What key is the violin in? What key is the harp in? What key is the bassoon in? What key is the piano in? Doesn't matter. What key is the trombone in? Doesn't matter. I believe bassoon is thought of as being in F, mostly as a historical curiosity b...
by bbocaner
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3097

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

saxhorn family had 9' bass, 9' baritone, and 9' tenor variants.

also how about soprano vs basset clarinet (not basset horn) which is essentially a soprano clarinet with extended range.
by bbocaner
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Sterling Silver Bells
Replies: 32
Views: 2117

Re: Sterling Silver Bells

To me, sterling silver feels and sounds a lot like gold brass, but it tends to require more energy to add some brightness to it. But there are a lot of other variables besides the material it's made out of, so it's hard to make this kind of generalization.
by bbocaner
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Traded
Replies: 5
Views: 293

Re: WTS Ben's Basics - Ben van Dijk Bass Trombone Book

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by bbocaner
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:51 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Traded
Replies: 5
Views: 293

Re: WTS Ben's Basics - Ben van Dijk Bass Trombone Book

Would you take a LB W114/ LBL / L9(2012) in good condition as an even trade?
by bbocaner
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Adams alto trombone
Replies: 10
Views: 822

Re: Adams alto trombone

Am I the only person that does not want an alto to blend with .547 tenors? If I'm using an alto, I feel like the whole point is for it to stick out. Even with baroque or classical trombones, the baroque alto doesn't fit right in above the timbre of the small bore & small bell tenors. The whole point...
by bbocaner
Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Alto Trombone Hard Case
Replies: 8
Views: 397

Re: Alto Trombone Hard Case

Oh I have the JP JPro case for my baritone and it's REALLY nice. It's a pretty literal feature-by-feature copy of the Marcus Bonna euphonium case, but scaled down to baritone size, which Bonna doesn't do. It's held up really well (I've had it 5 or six years, used it on many international flights, ou...
by bbocaner
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Who Should Play the Ophicleide Part?
Replies: 6
Views: 475

Re: Who Should Play the Ophicleide Part?

I actually think modern cimbasso does a pretty decent job of replicating the ophicleide sound assuming the player can keep a nice round sound and not go into blat-attack mode. Barring that, a very small F tuba or a euphonium isn't terrible, provided the player knows what an ophicleide sounds like an...
by bbocaner
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Alto Trombone Hard Case
Replies: 8
Views: 397

Re: Alto Trombone Hard Case

Rath sells one. The Rath alto is quite petite, though. I'm not sure it'd fit other marques.
by bbocaner
Wed May 29, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

Yeah, I'm dealing with a salesperson and not a tech here. I've got to go through the process. I can understand them not wanting to just replace it outright for me. The slide is only two years old, but it was a replacement for another slide that at that time was a few years old and that they swapped ...
by bbocaner
Wed May 29, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

So I've heard back from the manufacturer who confirms they believe my photos depict red rot. Their initial email blames it on a "damp environment" and doesn't suggest that they would "take care of it" -- they offered to refinish it for a price. But doesn't it need two new outer tubes? Even if they r...
by bbocaner
Mon May 20, 2019 7:11 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Marcus Magi Sealer in the US?
Replies: 2
Views: 237

Re: Marcus Magi Sealer in the US?

You can get it from Shires, you just have a big shires logo medallion on the side...
by bbocaner
Sat May 18, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Shires Straight Gooseneck Design?
Replies: 6
Views: 684

Re: New Shires Straight Gooseneck Design?

It comes with a fixed dummy trigger lever to rest your thumb on. I'm talking about the rest bar that goes across your hand inbetween the thumb and the pointer finger which helps actually support the instrument. Similar to the edwards bullet brace, but connecting to the tenon rather than to the bell ...
by bbocaner
Sat May 18, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Shires Straight Gooseneck Design?
Replies: 6
Views: 684

Re: New Shires Straight Gooseneck Design?

ohh, I like that. and you could put a rest bar on it, too, which you couldn't on the old one.
by bbocaner
Fri May 17, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

no word back from the manufacturer, although they did recently have a big event which may have been diverting their attention. I'm going to send a screen shot from the borescope.
by bbocaner
Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Kanstul
Replies: 121
Views: 14111

Re: Kanstul

From what I can surmise, most of those people in his fan club have never actually tried to do business with him.
by bbocaner
Fri May 17, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Kanstul
Replies: 121
Views: 14111

Re: Kanstul

Mr. Corrigan certainly is enthusiastic and he obviously loves what he does. And he seems to be able to do some nice work at times. My problem with him is that he's also a compulsive liar: things are always "on order" or they "went out last week" or "just waiting on one more part". I also had an unfo...
by bbocaner
Fri May 17, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Distilled water and red rot?
Replies: 36
Views: 2402

Re: Distilled water and red rot?

Yep, they were dark spots before polishing and now after having cleaned up the slide with wright's and a cleaning rod the inside is a bright yellow mirror finish except for down at the bottom corresponding with these spots where it's very pink.

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