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by MoominDave
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass bone - G-tuning
Replies: 11
Views: 398

Re: Bass bone - G-tuning

I have tubing for my bass that creates a G 2nd valve. It was very useful when I had an old brass band contest piece (Edward Gregson's 'Essay') with exposed glissandi G-Eb, written for the G bass trombone (probably? Gregson was writing in the time period (1970) where G was giving way rapidly to Bb/F)...
by MoominDave
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: We are completing the old "Read Da Book" thread by email
Replies: 0
Views: 117

We are completing the old "Read Da Book" thread by email

Just to let anyone who's interested know that, as it really doesn't seem likely now that TTF's coming back, and as this forum has asked for the avoidance of religion topics, those of us who had been contributing to this collaborative thread effort on TTF for several years at the time it went down ha...
by MoominDave
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:41 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Eastern European 4-valve bass trombone in F
Replies: 0
Views: 130

FS: Eastern European 4-valve bass trombone in F

Czech/German style valved bass trombone in F. This is a fun item to have in the arsenal, authentic to Czech orchestral repertoire such as Janáček or Dvořák. I have also on occasion pretended to be a cimbasso with it for Italian repertoire - it's substantially cheaper than an actual cimbasso! It take...
by MoominDave
Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Euphonium Doubler - How, how long and how well do you adapt?
Replies: 37
Views: 848

Re: Euphonium Doubler - How, how long and how well do you adapt?

Everybody has an opinion .... about what's best in euphonium mouthpieces. They're all right, and they're all wrong. It depends on who's playing it. Small mouthpieces like a Yamaha 48 can work well for some people, and very large bass trombone size mouthpieces can work well for some people. Of the m...
by MoominDave
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Sounds like we agreed on a fair price then. Thanks for the data point. The new price is nearly £6k, so it seemed about right. I feel a new thread coming on in a couple of years time: What's the most cost-effective way to get hold of a usable F contra? My suspicion is that buying something cheapish a...
by MoominDave
Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Sell him your BBb and buy yourself an F. Everyone's happy... and broke. :twisted: This isn't the silliest idea anyone's ever had, and it has crossed my mind... Given that we're having building work done at the moment though, I think that what would happen would be that I'd sell him my BBb, and then...
by MoominDave
Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:04 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Forum Stats
Replies: 8
Views: 309

Re: Forum Stats

There are also 64828 posts right now, with 55356 from the Trombone Forum and 9472 from this forum. The TTF Archive is a great facility here, but this shows quite how much is missing from it - I recall there being excitement about the millionth post there a few years ago. So ~95% of TTF posts were n...
by MoominDave
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:49 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece Valuation Help
Replies: 7
Views: 380

Re: Mouthpiece Valuation Help

I just put them in a directory on my Google Drive, and then post the sharable link to the directory here. Seemed to work well as a method of making lots of pictures accessible from one post with a single link.
by MoominDave
Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 156
Views: 7340

Re: What we're doing

It rather depends on the tastes of the MD. Some can never have too much bass trombone, resulting in some insane sounding balance issues in performance. Others prefer the sound to have a more natural part in the mix.
by MoominDave
Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:30 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 156
Views: 7340

Re: What we're doing

Late notice call last night to help out a local wind band on 1st trombone of 2. Smallish group, doesn't make a huge ff. Took my 24H and spent the evening happily parping away - small-bore noises worked pleasingly well in that context.
by MoominDave
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Convert string trigger linkage to direct linkage
Replies: 11
Views: 433

Re: Convert string trigger linkage to direct linkage

The string linkage has some significant advantages over a mechanical one - it's quieter and has fewer moving parts. In various ways it hasn't been bettered as a design.
by MoominDave
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton 158 how much?
Replies: 11
Views: 416

Re: Holton 158 how much?

I've played a TR159 with dual bore 547/562 and a valve - the TR156 is the straight version. The TR158 is a single bore 547 instrument, right? Or am I forgetting things?
by MoominDave
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 1166

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

I spent a while using a 72H slide on a 62HCL bell section. It's an amusing discipline to teach yourself never to use 1st position...
by MoominDave
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: SOLD: 1966 Holton TR150 (large bore tenor) in great condition
Replies: 1
Views: 427

SOLD: 1966 Holton TR150 (large bore tenor) in great condition

This is a fine and beautiful instrument with a long history, built back when Holton were doing notably good things; the serial number dates from early in 1966. The bell is stamped FRANK HOLTON & CO. TR150 ELKHORN, WIS U.S.A. as can be seen in pictures. This is a .547" bore tenor with a 9" bell, and ...
by MoominDave
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 156
Views: 7340

Re: What we're doing

Due to health reasons I've cut back to a large extent on the amount of playing I do during the last year - thank goodness I don't depend on it for income. Actually, it's been quite a welcome adjustment schedulewise - I was playing in a number of things simply because I had enjoyed them in the past, ...
by MoominDave
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:45 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Rite of Spring bass trumpet - what instrument originally?
Replies: 1
Views: 423

Rite of Spring bass trumpet - what instrument originally?

Somebody asked me a question I didn't know the answer to the other day. So I asked a professional specialist and he was also making an informed guess. I wonder if anyone knows for sure? Stravinsky's 'Rite of Spring' - iconic piece, wonderful to play or listen to. The 4th trumpet part doubles bass tr...
by MoominDave
Tue May 29, 2018 9:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: For Absolute Beginners: Bass or Contrabass?
Replies: 29
Views: 1602

Re: For Absolute Beginners: Bass or Contrabass?

One or two little hints in this make me think you might be in the UK. Which is the school that you refer to? Or if you aren't happy telling us which school, which county is it in?

Wondering if you might be local and whether I might know your teacher - there are lots of private schools around here.
by MoominDave
Tue May 29, 2018 1:19 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: For Absolute Beginners: Bass or Contrabass?
Replies: 29
Views: 1602

Re: For Absolute Beginners: Bass or Contrabass?

I wonder if the teacher actually said "bass" and it was misheard or misconstrued by Jon? That would make a whole lot more sense.
by MoominDave
Sun May 27, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: I’m thinking about a Courtois AC-440B. Any thoughts?
Replies: 6
Views: 877

Re: I’m thinking about a Courtois AC-440B. Any thoughts?

My impression from sitting next to one in a section a couple of times - as with various other 88H-alikes, it's smoother-sounding than the original. I would rather sit next to an 88H sound - more character in the sound, particularly at forte. The player said that it was easier to play than an 88H. No...
by MoominDave
Thu May 24, 2018 3:47 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

You know, now that I think about it another very likely option is just poor rehearsal management. Denis Wick talked about this in Trombone Technique . To paraphrase, he said that brass players rehearse dynamics exactly as they're going to be performed, because we're not dealing with the same endura...
by MoominDave
Wed May 23, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

Sounds entirely plausible. If the feedback you're given doesn't fit what you're doing, the feedbacker must be mistaken in some way or another. If she meant by "Trombones, quieter please" instead "Choir, sing better", it would make some sense out of it.
by MoominDave
Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Tuba questions
Replies: 8
Views: 849

Re: Tuba questions

I actually don't think that brass bands need to justify their clef choices with a reason. Nobody gives sax players a hard time for playing in transposed treble clef.

But it sounds like Trent's video was being quite confusing here...
by MoominDave
Fri May 18, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Horn: Monke F contra
Replies: 16
Views: 1661

Re: New Horn: Monke F contra

I have to be picky and correct your pronunciation. You must say the "e" on the end of the name, as "er" (with a very short "r" sound) Just like Porsche is not "Porsh", Monke is not Monk. And i don't see where there would be an "r"-sound (even very short). In german these words end with a vowel. I t...
by MoominDave
Thu May 17, 2018 4:10 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

What I think was going on is that directing the orchestra was stressing the conductor out (this was perceptible - the assignment was a little out of her comfort zone as a stick wagger); she had in advance decided on some hard-and-fast guidance that may or may not have fitted the playing situation, ...
by MoominDave
Wed May 16, 2018 2:26 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

2 stories: 1. Played the Requiem many times (on bass), one time we were called to play and a free-lance friend of mine, new in town, was excited to play alto on his newly acquired Minick alto. At the rehearsal the conductor (who we long time locals knew was a musical fool, even though he had the lo...
by MoominDave
Wed May 16, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

Exasperation mounting, after a while we mimed a movement - and got the hand again!! That's the breaking point. Wanting the trombones to play really soft is musical interpretation. But not noticing that the trombones are not actually playing ? But tempting as it is to deep-fat fry the conductor in f...
by MoominDave
Wed May 16, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

I think you were too diplomatic, Dave. I'd have got the section to down tools mid-section to show her the issue, but then again I'm not exactly subtle when MDs p!$$ me off! I think Dave got the right approach in many levels. Not actually HEARING what the ensemble (both instruments and voices) is do...
by MoominDave
Wed May 16, 2018 2:04 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

I think you were too diplomatic, Dave. I'd have got the section to down tools mid-section to show her the issue, but then again I'm not exactly subtle when MDs p!$$ me off! Oh, it was tempting on various occasions. But tact ruled the day. The alto player went for a furious walk after the rehearsal ...
by MoominDave
Wed May 16, 2018 1:59 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

I once got complimented by a conductor for my great bass trombone playing. In that particular piece wasnt any bass trombone. I wasnt even on stage... i dont play for that stick waver anymore :-) I know a brass band whose bass trombonist was once awarded the Best Instrumentalist prize at a contest -...
by MoominDave
Tue May 15, 2018 4:35 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 3088

Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

The Mozart Requiem is a wonderful piece, and the trombone parts to it are an absolute joy. If anyone here doesn't know it, they follow the choir parts for much of it - the alto-tenor-bass trombone trio weave fugally in and out of each other in gloriously written counterpoint, often at some velocity....
by MoominDave
Thu May 03, 2018 6:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Sell him your BBb and buy yourself an F. Everyone's happy... and broke. :twisted: This isn't the silliest idea anyone's ever had, and it has crossed my mind... Given that we're having building work done at the moment though, I think that what would happen would be that I'd sell him my BBb, and then...
by MoominDave
Tue May 01, 2018 9:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

His career is strikingly parallel to that of David Blaikley at Boosey - both were master brass instrument designers arguably not surpassed since within their contexts, and both had astonishingly long careers over a very similar time period - Burkle with Conn from 1876-(not sure, but he was still the...
by MoominDave
Tue May 01, 2018 6:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

BGuttman wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:30 pm
Also, in 1901 Jake Burkle was a beginner, so I don't think he's the brains.
Not the case at all. He started working for them in 1876, 25 years earlier.

Edit: Corrected date
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:48 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Jake Burkle had something to do with it, I'm guessing?
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

What were the Conn contra specs that made the difference, in your opinion?
by MoominDave
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

I've spoken to Wessex, and my friend's going down there shortly to have a look - they have a couple in stock. We'll take my Mirafone down and make some back-to-back comparisons.
by MoominDave
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:50 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rotary bass trumpets...
Replies: 10
Views: 807

Re: Rotary bass trumpets...

Note that of the repertoire you mention, the larger-sounding instruments don't tend to pass muster sound-wise for the Wagner, though they'll be fine for the lower, less demanding, and less exposed parts in the Stravinsky and the Janacek - or indeed in a brass group, or as a soloist. The Lidl does su...
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: list of unread topics
Replies: 21
Views: 1135

Re: list of unread topics

Yes, that’s it. Thanks!
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: list of unread topics
Replies: 21
Views: 1135

Re: list of unread topics

That finds you the first unread post in that thread, ta. What I'm looking for is a list of threads that I've previously posted to (I've seen this labelled as "subscribed threads" on other forums) that have new posts. Was it only me that used that on TTF (surely not...)?
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: list of unread topics
Replies: 21
Views: 1135

Re: list of unread topics

TTF had a list which I always started my site sessions with - new replies to threads already posted to - and the links were to the next unread comment in that thread.

Any chance? Or is it here already, and I haven't spotted it?
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Worried
Replies: 9
Views: 1026

Re: Worried

It's still picking up. Give it time. There will be people holding out on registering, giving TTF some time to get itself back together.
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:25 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: History of Holton tr150 & 158
Replies: 3
Views: 339

Re: History of Holton tr150 & 158

Having explored a little, it seems to me that the Wayback Machine only rarely has more than the first page of a TTF thread.
by MoominDave
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: TOS discussion
Replies: 13
Views: 961

Re: TOS discussion

All seems pretty sensible to me. Sad to lose the vigorous off-topic community from TTF, which could produce good and interesting things, but ultimately we are all here to talk about the trombone, and, while it seems pretty crazy to me that people were refraining from input to the forum as a whole du...
by MoominDave
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

johnnymack wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:10 pm
Brass Ark has a "One Of a Kind " BBbb made by Brad Close for Noah Gladstone. Go to Brass Ark's Facebook page and check it out.
It's a beautiful instrument - but not for sale, I don't think?
by MoominDave
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Sell him your BBb and buy yourself an F. Everyone's happy... and broke. :twisted: This isn't the silliest idea anyone's ever had, and it has crossed my mind... Given that we're having building work done at the moment though, I think that what would happen would be that I'd sell him my BBb, and then...
by MoominDave
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Short answer no... no decent ones out there. Long answer.... Rath might build one but as a one off I would guess you would need to wave about 20K at him. Other custom shops might bite but the result is unknowable. Chris I don't think that £20k is on the table, but I'll chat about it with my friend....
by MoominDave
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:11 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?
Replies: 28
Views: 1683

Re: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?

Cello, please.

But on trombone, bass. They sit better and more sonorously.
by MoominDave
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

I told him how much a new Thein F contra was last time I checked, and he did wince a bit :-) Said he'd have to save a bit longer when I guesstimated that one must be about £15k by now. It would be best to keep suggestions within the 4-digit GBP range, I think - say up to $15k equivalent at the bigge...
by MoominDave
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2190

Is there a good BBb contra?

I have a friend who wishes to purchase one. He's a BBb tuba player in our brass band, and an absolute horse of a man - doesn't train but can lift a 200 kg weight. Once went 40 days without sleep. A gentle giant - this is not someone who will experience any physical challenges with a BBb contra. He d...

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