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by Finetales
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone
Replies: 63
Views: 1957

Re: Cimbasso instead of bass trombone

A cimbassina is what you're looking for. It's made of an existing bass trombone bell section and a vertical valve section from an American baritone horn fabricated to attach to the bell section like a cimbasso. Getting one of these built (with an existing bass bell section) would probably be way che...
by Finetales
Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: The Bach 50 thread
Replies: 33
Views: 3205

Re: The Bach 50 thread

That 50AF3 at NAMM might be the best 50 I've played. The other contender is a stock 50A3 a college friend has that KILLED. The 2 different school-owned 50B3Os (one with the 10.5" bell) I learned bass on in high school were fine to my recollection, but I had nothing to compare them to. At this point ...
by Finetales
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy
Replies: 8
Views: 599

Re: A horn that plays fast. An equipment fantasy

I remember watching a live concert of a European big band on YouTube, and the trombonist had some sort of valve right after the mouthpiece that didn't change the pitch but still opened and closed which let him emulate the precise, notched slurs of a valve instrument. Not quite the same use as your A...
by Finetales
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium
Replies: 5
Views: 556

Re: FS: Kanstul 975-2 euphonium

This euph is still available!
by Finetales
Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Does it matter what horn you play?
Replies: 57
Views: 3125

Re: Does it matter what horn you play?

GabeLangfur wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:11 pm
Yes.
/thread
by Finetales
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 4599

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

My thought was the same for every converted horn I tried and that was the original character of the horns were lost. Thankfully that is not the case with mine. For a long time I had two 72H bell sections: a stock single valve section (also '60s Elkhart, that I used for a year before the indy sectio...
by Finetales
Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach bass madness
Replies: 102
Views: 3897

Re: Bach bass madness

Why search and spend so much coin when you can buy have a trombone fit to you by Edwards or Shires? Sometimes every possible combination from a boutique manufacturer still won't have what you're looking for. They're not a guaranteed solution, and sometimes only a specific vintage horn will do. Ever...
by Finetales
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach bass madness
Replies: 102
Views: 3897

Re: Bach bass madness

Burgerbob wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:27 am
Right now, if I do sell all this... a Lone Star bell section is my first choice.
But that wouldn't be nearly as cool!
by Finetales
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 4599

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

WGWTR180 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:04 am
Looks great. Any issues with sizing using the original Conn slide receiver on the valve set? Also looks like you added some tuning slide guards?
I actually bought the horn this way, so I didn't do any of the work. Not sure if the TS guards were added or not, but the receiver has no issues.
by Finetales
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 4599

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

Mind sharing a pic of the double valve 72H? Sorry for the delay, here's a few pics. https://i.imgur.com/1rYUWDQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HD9dLsj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bQxi1u2.jpg It really looks like a Xeno from a distance, and most people assume it is one. It still has some work to be done (adjus...
by Finetales
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 97
Views: 5461

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

Burgerbob wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:12 pm
Mine is definitely lighter in sound. It matches a Conn 7X very well, makes me feel very GR. Pretty darn hard to play and very uncomfortable rim, though.
Well now you just have me interested.
by Finetales
Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: [SOLD] 1924 Boosey & Co compensating Eb tuba
Replies: 2
Views: 402

Re: FS: B&H compensating Eb tuba, 1938 Conn 6D double horn

funkhoss wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:14 am
I sent you an email about this tuba last week--please let me know if you got it.
Sent you an E-mail.

Also, updated the OP with serial information.
by Finetales
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:34 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New B&S Sarastros in USA
Replies: 3
Views: 466

Re: New B&S Sarastros in USA

They are certainly excellent instruments. I've played a prototype and 2 production models and they were great. Love the long water key too.

Now, if only B&S would go ahead and put the Erde alto in production...
by Finetales
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)
Replies: 97
Views: 5461

Re: Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND plays a 1.5 sized Bass mouthpiece? (August 2019)

I had to look up what my mouthpieces are equivalent to in Bach-speak. When I bought them I was not searching for a specific diameter, I just tried everything and bought what I liked the best. That ended up being a 1G-sized piece for my daily driver, and a 2G-sized piece when I want something smaller...
by Finetales
Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New MJC Contrabass Cimbasso pics
Replies: 2
Views: 410

Re: New MJC Contrabass Cimbasso pics

Looks sweet. However, I'm most interested in the MJC compact cimbasso on the site...key options are Bb tenor, G, F, E, Eb, or D, with 4 compensating or 5 or 6 non-compensating rotors or pistons. Would love to hear what the G or D cimbassi sound like.
by Finetales
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Marching trombone stuffiness?
Replies: 8
Views: 565

Re: Marching trombone stuffiness?

They are definitely extremely mouthpiece-sensitive. Using my shallow Warburton is blat city, but with my Hammond 13M it plays great and has a great and unique sound. It also sounds great with my small shank Schilke 51D, almost like a mini-euphonium. Maybe I just got lucky but mine doesn't feel stuff...
by Finetales
Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium
Replies: 5
Views: 556

Re: FS: Kanstul 975-2 euphonium

The biggest difference is the 975-2? or 976-2? is actually the version with the detachable bell. The -2 denoted the revision to the horn. Ah, I assumed the -2 meant nickel plating. So would this be a 975 or 976? (no -2) I think the fingure buttons are also different between the early prototypes and...
by Finetales
Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium
Replies: 5
Views: 556

Re: FS: Kanstul 975-2 euphonium

Any idea what the bell size is on your horn? And is yours a fixed bell? Looks like it is from the pictures... 12" fixed bell. When I got the instrument I E-mailed Kanstul with the serial number and they told me it was made in April 2008, nothing about it being a prototype though. It has the Custom ...
by Finetales
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium
Replies: 5
Views: 556

FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium

https://imgur.com/a/Fh1g0yd For sale is my Kanstul 975 compensating euphonium. It was built in April 2008 and may be one of the last prototypes. It's in great shape and is a wonderful instrument - it sounds right in between the bright, colorful Besson sound and the dark, velvety Willson sound and is...
by Finetales
Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: 4th tenor part on Gurre-Lieder
Replies: 4
Views: 274

Re: 4th tenor part on Gurre-Lieder

Interestingly, I didn't remember that lick...I looked at the pdf of the part I've got, and it doesn't appear that way; everything below the E is up an octave. There are plenty of other low Bs, however. I looked at the parts on IMSLP after I made the post and noticed that too. It's changed in the pa...
by Finetales
Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: 4th tenor part on Gurre-Lieder
Replies: 4
Views: 274

4th tenor part on Gurre-Lieder

Just out of curiosity, what's the standard performance practice of the 4th tenor part in Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder for those that have played it or seen it played? I've read of it being played on bass, and with licks like this one all over the place it's easy to see why: https://i.imgur.com/X8E6NiM....
by Finetales
Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.
Replies: 27
Views: 4826

Re: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.

I've played quite a few BAC horns of all varieties and have yet to play one that I liked. But I have played with a good number of players that used them and loved them so it's probably just me. I rarely find a tenor from any brand that I like, so... :idk:
by Finetales
Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3958

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

^Agreed, this has been a good discussion. As I said, the slide not only has capability to lower the pitch a tritone, it ALSO can play any pitch BETWEEN the equal tempered chromatic notes. Therefore, it can play the notes on the F side in tune, with the lengthened tubing needed when you change the ke...
by Finetales
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3958

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

A trombone slide is NOT an exact technical equivalent to 3 valves. A trombone slide is infinitely adjustable. Valve tubing is of fixed length. Not even close to being equivalent. You can use longer positions on the F side of the trombone. This serves the exact same function as having a second, long...
by Finetales
Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3958

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Then a more accurate description of the what we call an "F attachment" trombone would be a "double trombone". The same way a F/Bb French horn is called a double horn vs. a single horn in F or single in Bb. Not really. If you assume that the slide performs the same role as the first 3 valves of a br...
by Finetales
Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex Sackbuts
Replies: 4
Views: 402

Re: Wessex Sackbuts

I was not a fan. They don't sound or feel even a little bit like a real replica. That said, if being authentic is not your goal and you just want a trombone that looks and plays a bit differently from a normal one you could certainly do a lot worse. They're not bad quality instruments...they just ar...
by Finetales
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: History of the Trombone
Topic: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments
Replies: 68
Views: 3958

Re: Trombone family compared to other families of instruments

Generally speaking, historically, instrument names have derived more from the role the instruments fill rather than a physical measure of length or nominal pitch. This thread has been a great read, but I think the case was closed with that quote from the very first comment. Brass instruments are la...
by Finetales
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 4599

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

I play an Elkhart 72H with Yamaha independent valves as my daily driver. Is the second valve added to the tuningslide of the first valve? This is one way to do it, or is it a complete rebuild? /Tom Complete rebuild. Looks like a Xeno from a distance! I'll try to get a good pic sometime today.
by Finetales
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 4599

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

I play an Elkhart 72H with Yamaha independent valves as my daily driver. I used to also have a stock single-valve 72H, which I played as my main axe for about a year on all kinds of modern rep until I got the double 72H. It seems like the 62H is the darling of the old Conn basses, while the 70-serie...
by Finetales
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: NY Bach 6 is shockingly warm
Replies: 2
Views: 453

Re: NY Bach 6 is shockingly warm

Old 6s are my favorite Bach instrument. I've played a couple that were absolutely magical, especially for lyrical playing. Blew me away in a way that no other Bach (and not many instruments from any brand) has done. My daily driver for tenor is a stellar loopy 3B, and there is no better horn out the...
by Finetales
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New axe for me
Replies: 18
Views: 1071

Re: New axe for me

bigbandbone wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:29 am
Finetales wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:19 am
Welcome to the 72H club, it's a nice place to be. Mine is also a '63.
What's your mouthpiece choice?
I use a Warburton 2-piece, about the size of a Schilke 58.
by Finetales
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New axe for me
Replies: 18
Views: 1071

Re: New axe for me

Welcome to the 72H club, it's a nice place to be. Mine is also a '63.
by Finetales
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thayer french horn
Replies: 25
Views: 1496

Re: Thayer french horn

I could definitely see a Thayer or Hagmann change valve working. Some change valves (Alexanders for example) are already gigantic so it doesn't seem too far-fetched. The Alex change valve is large, but that's to accommodate six ports in a single plane valve. Yep, I meant moreso that there's definit...
by Finetales
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thayer french horn
Replies: 25
Views: 1496

Re: Thayer french horn

I could definitely see a Thayer or Hagmann change valve working. Some change valves (Alexanders for example) are already gigantic so it doesn't seem too far-fetched. I'd be very interested in trying a horn set up like that, as uniformity between the F and Bb sides is something all horn players striv...
by Finetales
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Henri Selmer
Replies: 13
Views: 1261

Re: Henri Selmer

I just bought Finetales’ straight Largo with a 2nd bell section with a valve and 9” bell and I gotta say they’re SCORCHERS. I’m wondering what intonation issues mlshermancpa had - these are pretty spot on with intonation that is very familiar to me coming from a Shires tenor with a sharp D above th...
by Finetales
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex is letting down
Replies: 22
Views: 2081

Re: Wessex is letting down

I was really excited for some of the stuff they had coming down the pike. That large bore soprano trombone with a valve that they had on their site and then quickly pulled (allegedly because of quality issues that they would resolve) but never put back, as well as the alto with a valve they were all...
by Finetales
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dream Trombones?
Replies: 72
Views: 5364

Re: Dream Trombones?

A contra.

But you said "tenor or bass", so I'd probably go with a custom Shires bass or an Arkbone.
by Finetales
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: New Wayne Wallace album - "The Rhythm of Invention"
Replies: 1
Views: 291

New Wayne Wallace album - "The Rhythm of Invention"

Trombonist and composer Wayne Wallace recently released his latest album with his Latin Jazz Quintet, and it's available on all platforms. Wayne's playing and writing are both special and this album is one of his best IMO. Some of his previous albums have been nominated for Grammies, as recently as ...
by Finetales
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Henri Selmer
Replies: 13
Views: 1261

Re: Henri Selmer

The Largo with a valve and 9" bell (I guess that was their "bass" version?) makes a great barky commercial bass with a bass piece, or a great symphonic tenor a little more tame than the straight 8.5" version with a tenor piece. Both of them have crazy good low registers for a tenor.
by Finetales
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Best mid-size?
Replies: 46
Views: 3200

Re: Best mid-size?

My point is simple: SEShires is a mainstream, albeit high end, brand, not “exotic, boutique”, whatever that means. Eastman by Shires and Shires Q-series instruments are not boutique, but Shires Custom horns are the same level as they were in 2005, and are the same level of boutique (and as expensiv...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Adams alto trombone
Replies: 10
Views: 1000

Re: Adams alto trombone

Seems like a very large bore for an Alto... but I guess it will match well with a .547 tenor on the second part. There are a couple of .547-bore B&S prototype altos with Bb attachments that I've played and listened to extensively. They sound phenomenal on top of a modern section - extraordinarily c...
by Finetales
Tue May 28, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Denis (one “N”) Wick?
Replies: 15
Views: 1262

Re: Denis (one “N”) Wick?

I love my Wick 3 cornet mouthpiece, gets that British brass band sound I go for better than anything else. I have a few Wick mutes as well (euph travel, bass and tenor adjustable cups, tenor straight) and I love them all.
by Finetales
Tue May 28, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex - no more altos?
Replies: 4
Views: 655

Re: Wessex - no more altos?

I talked to a rep on the phone a few months ago about this, actually. They discontinued the large bore alto (which is a shame because those played awesome and I really wanted to buy one), but the rep told me they were working on a replacement model with a valve. I also asked about that large bore so...
by Finetales
Tue May 21, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Epic Low Brass - The Rains of Castamere
Replies: 8
Views: 1290

Re: Epic Low Brass - The Rains of Castamere

I'd be interested to hear the results of an established composer/arranger getting commissioned to write/arrange something for them. Hearing what different writers do with an ensemble of 9 tenor trombones, 21 bass trombones (7 doubling contra), 3 cimbassi, and 8 tubas is definitely something I'd be i...
by Finetales
Wed May 15, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is .547 a catch-all?
Replies: 33
Views: 2121

Re: Is .547 a catch-all?

.547 is the least versatile tenor size IMO. http://2.citynews-veneziatoday.stgy.ovh/~media/original-hi/16785071240880/fredbyheinrichbuttler-2.jpeg Hit me, Fred! https://youtu.be/-YRkTxTxXBE There are exceptions to everything...Barry Rogers is another one. Not to mention Slide Hampton with his strai...
by Finetales
Tue May 14, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is .547 a catch-all?
Replies: 33
Views: 2121

Re: Is .547 a catch-all?

.547 is the least versatile tenor size IMO.
by Finetales
Tue May 14, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Epic Low Brass - The Rains of Castamere
Replies: 8
Views: 1290

Re: Epic Low Brass - The Rains of Castamere

That visual of 7 people switching to contra at once was something to behold.
by Finetales
Fri May 03, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires Q Series Euphonium
Replies: 44
Views: 2987

Re: Shires Q Series Euphonium

bbocaner wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 7:57 am
Finetales - ugh... my experiences were that the York instruments were not well designed or well made.
I just remember trying one at ITEC years ago and liking it better than everything except the Willsons. Maybe it was a fluke!

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