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by Finetales
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Music for Horn, Trombone, and Bass Trombone
Replies: 6
Views: 379

Re: Music for Horn, Trombone, and Bass Trombone

Thanks for all the replies - lots of good information. I'm sure the horn player can read in C just fine, and either of us could also easily just whip up a part in F in Sibelius if need be so that's a non-issue. Ideally I'd like to stay away from just doing trombone trios with the top voice on horn. ...
by Finetales
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Music for Horn, Trombone, and Bass Trombone
Replies: 6
Views: 379

Music for Horn, Trombone, and Bass Trombone

Two friends of mine (a hornist and a tenor trombonist) and I have started talking about recording a trio album at some point down the line when it's safe to do so. The horn player wrote a trio for the three of us to play once back when we were all in undergrad together, and I could certainly write s...
by Finetales
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Selmer Bolero with engraved bell
Replies: 15
Views: 1113

Re: Selmer Bolero with engraved bell

One of my Largos had the French bead, the other didn't. Both were great players, but the one without the bead (and 9" diameter instead of 8.5") had better intonation. The one with the bead was all over the place...notes the opposite of where they are on any other trombone (for example, the 6th parti...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha F-Attachment Trombones: 448, 548, 620 ???
Replies: 28
Views: 3160

Re: Yamaha F-Attachment Trombones: 448, 548, 620 ???

Ha! OP here. A lot has happened in a year and a half. I bought a Yamaha 620 (.457). Wonderful horn. I love it. And, a little later, out of curiosity, I bought a Yamaha 640 (.525 bore F attachment). Wonderful horn. I love it. And I still have my Yamaha 891Z (.508), my Yamaha 630 (.525 straight), and...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: FS: Case (French horn) - Marcus Bonna (Osmun)
Replies: 6
Views: 582

Re: FS: Case (French horn) - Marcus Bonna (Osmun)

If only my horn was a screw bell... CUT IT! Also, thanks for your help finding that Contempora. I actually upgraded recently to a Paxman compensating triple. SCREW BELL ^_^. I would have done that by now if I were wed to this horn! I need a really good large throat Kruspe to be my forever horn (pai...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: FS: Case (French horn) - Marcus Bonna (Osmun)
Replies: 6
Views: 582

Re: FS: Case (French horn) - Marcus Bonna (Osmun)

If only my horn was a screw bell...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:41 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: What did you want to be when you were young? Are you doing that?
Replies: 13
Views: 705

Re: What did you want to be when you were young? Are you doing that?

I wanted to be an architect. It was only late in high school that I realized I could do music as a career, and once I found that out there was no other choice. I've had a questionable level of success, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.
by Finetales
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A fad we haven't seen yet...fortunately?
Replies: 23
Views: 1265

Re: A fad we haven't seen yet...fortunately?

I don't care for the relic guitar/bass thing, but that road-worn look is better on instruments like that than on brass instruments. Usually worn brass instruments just look ugly. An exception I can think of is a 1938 Conn 6D I used to have that had an unbelievable patina, especially on the bell flar...
by Finetales
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: seeking info on Holton basses and tenors
Replies: 19
Views: 1159

Re: seeking info on Holton basses and tenors

Related, but not quite on topic: It's interesting that the Benge 190F and 165F are usually left out from tweener discussions, I guess because the bells are 8.5" not 9"...but they have the larger 5B flare and a larger valve bore than the 5B. Yet nobody considers them tweeners. Is there a site that li...
by Finetales
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Online Retailers
Replies: 27
Views: 1542

Re: Online Retailers

I've had nothing but positive experiences with the BrassArk, Horn Guys, Hickey's, Woodwind & Brasswind, Mouthpiece Express, and Sweetwater (not often relevant to trombonists but the customer service is so extraordinary I think it's good to include it). I've READ nothing but positive experiences with...
by Finetales
Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: seeking info on Holton basses and tenors
Replies: 19
Views: 1159

Re: seeking info on Holton basses and tenors

The 158 is I think a 156 w/F, but again, the specs tend to bounce around on specific examples. The 159 is more niche. The TR156 was the straight version of the TR159, not the TR158 (which is a much more normal large tenor). They were the same other than the valve (.547/.559 slide, large throat). Th...
by Finetales
Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dream Trombones?
Replies: 106
Views: 9542

Re: Dream Trombones?

RoscoTrombone wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:29 pm
I've been wondering for a while now what I could get to enhance my meagre collection and now I know!! Now I just need to find a place that has them readily available....
If only such a place existed!
by Finetales
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha F-Attachment Trombones: 448, 548, 620 ???
Replies: 28
Views: 3160

Re: Yamaha F-Attachment Trombones: 448, 548, 620 ???

Aw man, I totally missed this thread earlier. You guys had a discussion about the 882 (no suffix) without me!!! It's my favorite Yamaha tenor. I never really enjoyed the 882O or OR but all the 882s I've tried have been a match made in heaven. Would love to own one. Anyway uh...back to your regularly...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:56 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Time to buy a new computer mouse
Replies: 19
Views: 1097

Re: Time to buy a new computer mouse

A mouse costs 20 bucks max. Just get a new one if it breaks. I used to just use cheap mice from Best Buy or whatever. My favorite one was a Logitech M185...$20 for a no-frills wireless mouse that did what it should. Never broke either. Lots of people would never need or want to upgrade. The reason ...
by Finetales
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB/T: Hammond and Warburton stuff
Replies: 5
Views: 670

Re: WTB/T: Hammond and Warburton stuff

Thanks for the replies. If I haven't got back to you yet I'll get to you soon! What are the specs on the Warburton 4B? I don't see that one on his website. Thanks. It's an older 2-piece. The top is 2G-sized with a bass trombone cup. You can actually order bass trombone tops as small as a 4G! The bac...
by Finetales
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pedal vs Petal tones
Replies: 22
Views: 1233

Re: Pedal vs Petal tones

I later talked with a horn player who said it was probably not intended that way, that horn notation was sometimes inconsistent enough to fool horn players, but he was pretty sure it should have been in the staff and not below it. Bass clef for horn used to be written an octave lower than played. H...
by Finetales
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pedal vs Petal tones
Replies: 22
Views: 1233

Re: Pedal vs Petal tones

A pedal C# for the entire section? C#0? sounding or written? I never ever heard anything like that, is it possible for you to tell me where I can find that? Written C#, sounding F#1. Here's a link to the exact spot! It sounds awesome. Actually, listening further, I forgot that there is a part later...
by Finetales
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Pedal vs Petal tones
Replies: 22
Views: 1233

Re: Pedal vs Petal tones

Trumpet pedals don't really exist (half-tube instrument and all that) and are stupid hard to force out of the instrument. Meanwhile, flugel pedals are stupid easy. Just how those instruments work. French horn players routinely call the note an octave above their real fundamental (on the F side) a "p...
by Finetales
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB Karl Hammond mouthpieces
Replies: 4
Views: 484

Re: Looking for Karl Hammond mouthpieces

I have a large shank 12XL, I'll send you a PM.
by Finetales
Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Time to buy a new computer mouse
Replies: 19
Views: 1097

Re: Time to buy a new computer mouse

I've had my HP mouse modded by one of the top Mouse technicians in the Northeast. Had a Razer body put on the HP guts, swapped out the left click for a Logitech switch (much more agile, especially at the top end of the page) and had my man custom build an ergonomically advanced right click, especia...
by Finetales
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1221

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

Out of curiosity, what is the advantage of a large bore alto? This alto in particular was designed to be a perfect sonic match to a modern orchestral section with a .547" tenor on 2nd and a .562" bass. And let me tell you, they succeeded in SPADES with that goal. My professor did a masterclass on t...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1221

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

Finetales....did you buy that B & S alto, or is this another "the one that got away" stories? It wasn't for sale, unfortunately...one of my professors in undergrad helped B&S design the instrument. He had (and still has) the prototype and then later a pre-production model. Both were amazing. Unfort...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1221

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

Before any of you out there say...."A .525 bore on an alto. Are you crazy?" You must keep in mind that there are a few German alto trombone makers that offer larger bore altos. Pfretzschner is one of them, and his horns are outstanding. I think one of his best models is a dual bore that is somethin...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:46 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Time to buy a new computer mouse
Replies: 19
Views: 1097

Re: Time to buy a new computer mouse

I had an ambidextrous Razer mouse for about 2 years or so before it broke. No abuse, just daily use. I replaced that with a Logitech MX Master that I've had for almost 3 years and still works like new. And I'm not a light user!
by Finetales
Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: French horn rotor for alto?
Replies: 27
Views: 1221

Re: French horn rotor for alto?

It would have to be a pretty small alto. Modern horns have a .468" bore...I could see a horn rotor working on a soprano trombone maybe.
by Finetales
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Round stamp boosey and hawkes euphonium
Replies: 3
Views: 418

Re: Round stamp boosey and hawkes euphonium

They have a singing, colorful sound. Compared to the broad, dark sound of a Willson or the in-between sound of a something like a Yamaha, B&H/Bessons have a traditional British euphonium sound that is more soloistic and less tuba-like. Plus they just play great, with a clear and easy high register. ...
by Finetales
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Wessex pb4501
Replies: 4
Views: 557

Re: Wessex pb4501

I tried one at ATW one year. It was certainly a solid instrument, not for me though. The PE523 large bore alto and BR140 3v compensating baritone are what blew me away from that booth...still sad they discontinued that alto. I thought the superbone played well, too. I'd imagine the Urbie model would...
by Finetales
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3BF/4BF G attachment
Replies: 14
Views: 1194

Re: King 3BF/4BF G attachment

That video is...something. It doesn't work on my loopy (as christened by DJ) 3BF, even with the main tuning slide removed. I think I remember reading that the wrap has to be the version where both tuning slides are the same width. On my 3BF you can put the narrower slide into one set of tubes perpen...
by Finetales
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: The only thing better than a new trombone...
Replies: 9
Views: 864

Re: The only thing better than a new trombone...

Looks like that might take an alto horn shank.
by Finetales
Sat May 30, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium
Replies: 11
Views: 1673

Re: FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium

This one is still for sale!
by Finetales
Sat May 30, 2020 1:24 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB/T: Hammond and Warburton stuff
Replies: 5
Views: 670

WTB/T: Hammond and Warburton stuff

Just putting out some feelers. Looking for some specific pieces/parts. 1. Hammond 12M, 11M, or 13M (in that order of preference); small shank, skeleton blank 2. Warburton 3* bass backbore in Remington shank 3. Warburton 3* large tenor (ST) backbore in Remington shank 4. Warburton 10S or 9S small sha...
by Finetales
Fri May 29, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?
Replies: 23
Views: 1542

Re: Which brand of horn or combination of materials produce the best slide vibrato?

Dave Steinmeyer has the wildest slide vibrato I've ever seen. It's like three full positions! But it sounds incredible, as does everything about his playing. The player's approach and right hand slide grip, as well as the slide's weight/lubricity as already mentioned, seem to be what matter for slid...
by Finetales
Fri May 29, 2020 1:39 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Any opinions on Hammond 20BLs?
Replies: 5
Views: 585

Re: Any opinions on Hammond 20BLs?

I had a group of Hammonds (19BL, 20BL, 20BXL, 21BL) that I switched between for years, and I always came back to the 20BL. It was the Goldilocks bass piece for me. I used it for everything and loved it. I eventually got fitted for a 2-piece Warburton that was even easier to play, or I would still be...
by Finetales
Mon May 25, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Potential “FrankenBone”
Replies: 18
Views: 1216

Re: Potential “FrankenBone”

Not much to improve on a good 6H. I'd just fix it up and play it into the ground, but if you really want to bling it out...delacquer, BrassArk pipe, carbon fiber outer slide, screw bell conversion, and add a valve or something.
by Finetales
Mon May 25, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What tenor and bass mouthpieces are you using?
Replies: 53
Views: 3097

Re: What tenor and bass mouthpieces are you using?

Small tenor (lead): Warburton 8S/4* 2-piece. Very shallow cup, Bach 4G-sized rim. Small tenor (all-around): Hammond 13M, or at least it will be again if I can ever find it. Large tenor: Hammond 12ML. I would use my Warburton 7ST/3* (3G-size) but my 88H doesn't play nice with it. Bass: Warburton 2B/3...
by Finetales
Fri May 22, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thomann TEB480 L Alto
Replies: 12
Views: 1130

Re: Thomann TEB480 L Alto

BGuttman wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 12:08 pm
If they eat the bad ones, there's your price difference.
That's gotta be hard to stomach!
by Finetales
Fri May 22, 2020 11:56 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thomann TEB480 L Alto
Replies: 12
Views: 1130

Re: Thomann TEB480 L Alto

It's interesting to me that they also sell the usual K&H clone as the SL-35. I've always wondered how they compare and if the TEB480 is worth the higher price.

The TEB480, TF-300, and SL-5 are all pretty tempting, if they're good that is.
by Finetales
Thu May 21, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha Indy Basses - YBL-613h or YBL-830
Replies: 11
Views: 739

Re: Yamaha Indy Basses - YBL-613h or YBL-830

Go for the dark horse option and find a YBL-813UG!
by Finetales
Thu May 21, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?
Replies: 54
Views: 2348

Re: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?

However, as I head off to college (assuming all this is over) I will not be doubling because the school of music is huge. There are 17 basses and something like 40 tenor, so I probably won't get much time on other instruments. Don't be so sure. I went to a music school that had up to 60 tenor playe...
by Finetales
Wed May 20, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?
Replies: 54
Views: 2348

Re: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?

Burgerbob wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:45 pm
Yes.
^
by Finetales
Mon May 18, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Show me your stable
Replies: 79
Views: 6531

Re: Show me your stable

NateR wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:47 pm
And maybe shouldn't feel so badly about looking at other horns on the internet... :shuffle:
It's a way of life.
by Finetales
Thu May 14, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How long do brass instruments last.
Replies: 25
Views: 1020

Re: How long do brass instruments last.

I play my pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn for all my flugel work. Sessions, live gigs, you name it. It's hard work (the valve compression left a long time ago) but the sound is worth it and it has no problem blending with modern instruments.
by Finetales
Thu May 14, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Eastman ETB848G
Replies: 7
Views: 482

Re: Eastman ETB848G

I've only played the 848G, but it blew me away. I legitimately thought it was a custom Shires until I was told otherwise. If I didn't have my Conn I would buy one without hesitation.
by Finetales
Tue May 12, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: pBone fire sale from Conn Selmer store on eBay
Replies: 11
Views: 885

Re: pBone fire sale from Conn Selmer store on eBay

It's not just pbones... check out the conn/selmer ebay page, lots of great pro horns being discounted. The pocket trumpet for $199 (normally about $450) is at least as tempting as the pBone. Also, if that Bach TB400B intermediate trombone is any good, it could be a great deal for someone ($849 with...
by Finetales
Sun May 10, 2020 9:54 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Show me your stable
Replies: 79
Views: 6531

Re: Show me your stable

https://i.imgur.com/5X2DUga.jpg Conn 14K Sousaphone Bach 50B3 Bach 50T3 w/ Shires BI-1GT7 Bell (Main axe) Amati G Bass Trombone Bach 42K (1975 Corp 42B w/ aftermarket conversion) Mirafone 183 Eb tuba Not pictured is my King 3B Silver Sonic, which is currently in quarantine with Benn Hansson. Never ...
by Finetales
Sat May 09, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Takao Nakagawa
Replies: 3
Views: 508

Re: Takao Nakagawa

Oh yes, I love his corni da caccia. They are continuations of the Syhre corni da caccia, which I've always thought were some of the most beautiful instruments ever made. They were supposed to be amazing players too, probably only maybe equaled by the Thein corno da caccia. Getting one from Takao is ...
by Finetales
Tue May 05, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Ergonomic Alternatives
Replies: 12
Views: 771

Re: Ergonomic Alternatives

I would think getting a bass trombonium Frankensteined together would make the most sense, as you could make it sound closer to a bass trombone than a cimbasso and have it made as light and ergonomic as possible specifically for you. Plus, it's by far the coolest option. JC Sherman made one in Eb th...
by Finetales
Mon May 04, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Show me your stable
Replies: 79
Views: 6531

Re: Show me your stable

This photo is a couple of years old but it will do. https://i.imgur.com/DdHzegP.jpg Top row L-R: - 1973 King 3B - probably the horn that leaves the house the most. - Selmer Largo (9" bell, with F) - I no longer own this one, but I now own a 1972 King 3BF that is a near-perfect match for my straight ...
by Finetales
Sat May 02, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Interesting DEG F alto on eBay
Replies: 7
Views: 959

Re: Interesting DEG F alto on eBay

I can't imagine how hard it must be to think F positions if you've spent any time on an Eb alto. An easy way to know is to take one of your Bb trombones and play just the slide (no bell). They're usually in F that way. I'm not interested in this DEG by any means, but I do actually want an F alto. A...
by Finetales
Sat May 02, 2020 1:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Interesting DEG F alto on eBay
Replies: 7
Views: 959

Re: Interesting DEG F alto on eBay

I dredged through the Wayback Machine and found some pages referring to the Shortbone. No mention of an F alto, but the specs page lists an Bb valve trombone, a C valve trombone, a Bb tenor tenor trombone, and an Eb alto trombone. https://web.archive.org/web/20030816065122/http://www.musicmarketpro...

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