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by BillO
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holy Moley, 13 valves
Replies: 3
Views: 241

Re: Holy Moley, 13 valves

Who said what about who now?

Some one should buy that and do a cutaway of it so that the world can see out how such a thing could possibly work.

I had a plastic version of this when I was a kid. But it only had 5 'valves' and played an out of tune pentatonic scale.
by BillO
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Unique, cheap, vintage
Replies: 14
Views: 395

Re: Unique, cheap, vintage

How about a Conn 2H? Pretty unique ... with a bore smaller than most trumpets and made with metal thicker than a '57 Chevy Bel Air. I have one, complete with a serviceable original case that can be yours for a reasonable offer. Actually plays pretty nicely even if the slide is showing it's age (but ...
by BillO
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: XO Bass Bone Lead Pipe
Replies: 5
Views: 394

Re: XO Bass Bone Lead Pipe

How do you adapt the other leadpipes to the rather unique XO system?
by BillO
Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: “Taming” a nickel slide
Replies: 23
Views: 2529

Re: “Taming” a nickel slide

I'd suggest trying a sterling or pure silver lead pipe.
by BillO
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How long pBone?
Replies: 10
Views: 284

Re: How long pBone?

Gary wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:45 pm
I will admit that holding the Trombone really feels awkward. Is this typical? Thanks.
You'll get used to it.
by BillO
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Ambassador opinions
Replies: 57
Views: 1477

Re: Olds Ambassador opinions

Can anyone tell me anything about Jupiter 332 model? I mean I know it's a basic student horn but how would it compare for instance to Yamaha 354? Are Jupiter student line durable enough? How do they sound? I mean again I don't expect miracles but I need to know the tendencies. While I've not played...
by BillO
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Blessing trombones
Replies: 11
Views: 541

Re: Blessing trombones

I'm guessing a lot of the comments, especially WRT older Blessings, are by people that have no real experience with them. To be honest I have not tried the particular horn you mention and really have no idea where it's made. However, I do own a B-88 that was made back in the late 70's in Elkhart. I ...
by BillO
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts
Replies: 24
Views: 1006

Re: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts

Ah, yes! Right you are Bruce. That is most probably where the assembly of the Shires Q instruments is handled.
by BillO
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: A bad Thayer or a bad me?
Replies: 28
Views: 1163

Re: A bad Thayer or a bad me?

Burgerbob wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:25 pm
the XO basses are very good, IMO.
I agree.

I have such an animal - maybe I will try to measure the bore through the valves - tomorrow(ish)...
by BillO
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Serafin Alschausky patent
Replies: 15
Views: 789

Re: Serafin Alschausky patent

That might be pretty difficult to get used to. Observe that because of the way that valve works, not only will the pitch change, but slide positions change with the pitch change. Yes, of course. Just like a tenor trombone with F-att, or a single/double valve bass trombone. My double independent bas...
by BillO
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts
Replies: 24
Views: 1006

Re: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts

They can even divide production between multiple suppliers. It's entirely possible that Sweaty's 7B copy and ghmerrill's 7B copy weren't built in the same factory. In fact, the Chinese government does this. They control who produces what and they enforce multiple sources for everything. They know h...
by BillO
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts
Replies: 24
Views: 1006

Re: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts

Basically... You get what you pay for. If you want problems, buy a cheap horn. YES!!! I tire of these threads that turn into China bashing threads. It's not that the cheap Chinese trombones are junk because they are Chinese, it's that they are junk because they are cheap. If you want to pay Jinbao ...
by BillO
Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: slide extender
Replies: 23
Views: 807

Re: slide extender

ennisdavis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:24 pm
where can i get a slide extender? they seem to be discontinued or out of stock
Trade the trombone in on one with an F-attachment. A used King 607F might do. Or if the medium bore is too much, then a Jupiter JTB710F.
by BillO
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:45 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Sturdy, hard-to-topple, or even DIY Trombone Stand?
Replies: 23
Views: 913

Re: Sturdy, hard-to-topple, or even DIY Trombone Stand?

I have several K&M 14990 stands. They are great. This one: https://www.hornguys.com/collections/trombone-stands/products/k-m-14990-heavy-duty-trombone-stand I'll offer another vote for the K&M 14990. Best stand I have ever used. Have 3 now and will soon have 5 in order to replace my other 2 stands.
by BillO
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: XO Bass Bone Lead Pipe
Replies: 5
Views: 394

Re: XO Bass Bone Lead Pipe

I tried the silver pipe today for a couple of hours and did some switching back and forth. I like it. It gives me a purer tone and is a bit more tolerant to sloppy articulations. It behaves well over the entire dynamic range and seems a bit more controlled in the FF+ range. I will note though, that ...
by BillO
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 2406

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

Seems a bit weird to talk abut purity of tone and false notes in the same argument. I would be willing to bet every trombonist on earth could play a low Db with more purity of tone using an F-att than by doing it with false notes. In any case, this thread seems to have gotten a bit silly. Play what ...
by BillO
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Thickest, stickiest tuning slide lube?
Replies: 40
Views: 1868

Re: Thickest, stickiest tuning slide lube?

Dillon sells a very thick tuning slide grease under their own name. Cheap and effective. Should not be used on tight slides though as it makes them very hard to move.
by BillO
Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What is a C Trigger??
Replies: 13
Views: 501

Re: What is a C Trigger??

It's an easy transition to a more standard F attachment since those notes are also in 1st and 2nd position. Except that on an F-att B is in quite a different place. This seems to confuse a lot of younger players making the transition. Well, I've only personally known 2 of them, but both seem to hav...
by BillO
Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Straight versus f-attachment
Replies: 62
Views: 2406

Re: Straight versus f-attachment

Playing a bass over the last two years or so has taught me many tricks with the F valve. It's not just for avoiding 6th and 7th. A few months back I had a piece where I needed to play a middle-C, Bb, Ab sequence repeatedly up and down at breakneck speed. Using the valve turned it into a simple thumb...
by BillO
Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore
Replies: 21
Views: 1119

Re: Upper range on medium/large bore vs small bore

My experience is that most 3B's have a high end that is challenging. I have had to put lots of time into developing it. I have an easier time up high on just about anything else. I have to concur with greenbean. I had a 3B that had a marked limited high range. Trading it in on my 4B fixed the range...
by BillO
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 3295

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

mrdeacon wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:08 pm
I meant no offense!
No offense taken. :good:
by BillO
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 3295

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

You do know that seams are good things, right? Who, me? Naw - I just started playing trombone a week ago. Pfft - what do I know from seams? :twisted: Means the bell was given a seam by hand. They cut the bell and basically stitch the seam and bell flare together. It adds some inconsistency to the b...
by BillO
Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe
Replies: 45
Views: 3295

Re: Build quality Shires, Rath and Greenhoe

... I've also seen what seems to be a lot of Shires with acid bleed at the bell rim that other makers seem to be able to avoid. Again, doesn't effect playability, it's just not something you expect from a top line horn ... I have to agree with the acid bleed problem on Shires. I have seen more of t...
by BillO
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha 352
Replies: 3
Views: 244

Re: Yamaha 352

I had a 354 a few years back. It also had "M1" stamped on the slide. That slide was very, very nice. Perhaps the slide has already been updated.
by BillO
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Alternative Slide Lubricants
Replies: 41
Views: 6402

Re: Alternative Slide Lubricants

harrisonreed wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:06 am
CLP sometimes is designed to become a dry film that still acts as a lube on a weapon.
That makes sense. You don't want a lube that attracts/holds water/dust in your firearm.
by BillO
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Japan-only Yamaha
Replies: 2
Views: 2044

Re: Japan-only Yamaha

I think the 882V is Japan only as well.

I'd love to try one out.
by BillO
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires Bravo
Replies: 4
Views: 2361

Re: Shires Bravo

matto wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:12 am
The Bravo I tried was a .547 bore with a traditional rotor, appeared to have a gold brass bell, slide with nickel oversleeves and crook. It's being marketed as an intermediate horn, and I thought it superior to the Yamaha YSL-448...
That's pretty good then. :good: Less expensive too.
by BillO
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:48 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: My son creates a video.
Replies: 3
Views: 1362

Re: My son creates a video.

Weather was overcast and cool. It was shot underexposed intentionally - black bike - black clad rider - the dark knight. One of the concepts was to highlight the "FOX" logo on the hoody after the big no-hander jump in the middle of the video. Actually, I too thought it was a bit on the dark side, bu...
by BillO
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: My son creates a video.
Replies: 3
Views: 1362

My son creates a video.

Pat, my son, has been riding off-road motorcycles for a few years. He used to race (at pro-level no less), but now just plays around and he's just created this video - ahh, the sound of a high performance 4-stroke - very musical... I helped a wee bit with cinematography and such. https://www.youtube...
by BillO
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: XO 1240
Replies: 11
Views: 1576

Re: XO 1240

Well, look at that, you're right! Now I've learned something new - thanks. :good: Mine came new with the Thayer. I guess they decided either it was too expensive to use brand name valves or theirs fixes some of the quirks of the Thayer - which it certainly has. I'm still of the opinion that their bu...
by BillO
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: XO 1240
Replies: 11
Views: 1576

Re: XO 1240

I'm almost certain they are NOT genuine Thayers. Not saying they are bad; the blow is actually quite respectable. Actually the sound is the best part of the XO horns, the overall build is where they are still lacking a little bit compared to other horns. Suit your self. My 1236RL-T has a genuine Th...
by BillO
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve
Replies: 13
Views: 1766

Re: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve

...I also feel that, for some reason (possibly the lateral pressure of the tight spring) the screw holding the lever onto the brace seems to like to back out... The ones I’ve tried out, on friend’s horns, have all had issues with the screw frequently backing out. Without fail the screw would back o...
by BillO
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: XO 1240
Replies: 11
Views: 1576

Re: XO 1240

I've been playing 1240RL now for about 2.5 years. I have absolutely no complaints with it. Plays real nice and has a nice big sound. No issues with range either. Blows pretty open through the vales so I imagine the 'T' version would be even better in that respect. Quality and build are strictly top ...
by BillO
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Thayer issues
Replies: 6
Views: 561

Re: Thayer issues

Thanks for the advise folks. I'm (kinda) glad to see I'm not the only one that has these issues.

I'll keep it in it's case and glue the bumper on.
by BillO
Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Thayer issues
Replies: 6
Views: 561

Thayer issues

I’ve got a couple of issues with my Thayer valve. It’s a genuine Thayer of the newer style. Most important issue is that if I leave the trombone on a stand overnight the valve seems to seize up. It’s not a cleanliness problem as the first thing I tried was to clean it. Once freed up, it works just f...
by BillO
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?
Replies: 26
Views: 1811

Re: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?

Kingfan wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 pm
Vegastokc wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:49 pm
Geritol with an Ensure back
Don't forget the Metamucil chaser!
Arrr - you guys are hardcore! - sign me up!
by BillO
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?
Replies: 26
Views: 1811

Re: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?

Vegastokc wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:43 pm

This is a topic I am sure we could all extinguish many adult beverages discussing.
Would that be Ensure or Geritol? :lol:
by BillO
Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?
Replies: 26
Views: 1811

Re: What`s your "GO TO" Brand ?

I have King, Blessing, Conn, Shires and Jupiter 'XO' horns. The XOs are my most played by a good margin.
by BillO
Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds 25 info?
Replies: 24
Views: 1541

Re: Olds 25 info?

I had some success in playing a King 4B in almost every imaginable circumstance. I never played it as 4th trombone in a Big Band, but I used it for every other chair in the band, as well as every chair in a concert band, as well as a Trad Jazz (Dixieland) band, and in rock bands and in several music...
by BillO
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Well, Here's a New One...
Replies: 18
Views: 1679

Re: Well, Here's a New One...

Holy guacamole! How did I miss that!!!
by BillO
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Well, Here's a New One...
Replies: 18
Views: 1679

Re: Well, Here's a New One...

Neo Bri wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:45 pm
I saw 10 spinny things that looked like valve caps, so I figure 10 valves.
Ahhh, well it sure is eye candy and looks very well built in those photos. Wheter it has only 4 valves or 10, it would be very cool to have 'n' hold.

Here's hoping you go for it and let us know what it plays like.
by BillO
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?
Replies: 10
Views: 2306

Re: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?

The Yamaha SLO2 (in the 'purple' label bottle) will clot over time if not shaken regularly. Then what comes out of the bottle when you try to apply is nothing, or very thin and pretty useless. It's great stuff when fresh, but I would not buy 5 bottles of it (again). Ultrapure seems more reasonable f...
by BillO
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Well, Here's a New One...
Replies: 18
Views: 1679

Re: Well, Here's a New One...

10?

I count 3 double layer valves and one single layer valve that changes between the layer of the other valves. Even if you count the double layer valves as 2 valves, that give 7. How do you get 10? Just curious.
by BillO
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Opinions of Jupiter/XO 1632
Replies: 17
Views: 2654

Re: Opinions of Jupiter/XO 1632

I think it would do well in a Dixieland Band - it can easily get loud enough to play over a clarinet, piano or banjo etc...

Where it might not work well is as lead trombone in a Stan Kenton type Big Band plying fffff until you fall off your chair from anoxia. Some folks like it like that. :idk:
by BillO
Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Opinions of Jupiter/XO 1632
Replies: 17
Views: 2654

Re: Opinions of Jupiter/XO 1632

1) It comes with a removable balance weight. with the weight it balances just fine. Without the weight it balances just fine. The thing is a feather. Sorry for the ambiguity, but I usually pay a BIG double rotor independent bass the slide of which is heavier than the entire 1632. Having said that, I...
by BillO
Thu May 31, 2018 7:24 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: Mics advice
Replies: 5
Views: 2127

Re: Mics advice

If you really want to do the right thing, 'they' say use condenser mics for wind instruments. 'They' being the professional recording pundits. I have heard good things about and from the Neumann TLM 193 and have seen them used for about $1300. Or if your budget it tighter, the Neumann TLM 102 can be...
by BillO
Thu May 24, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Blessing BT88
Replies: 8
Views: 1012

Re: Blessing BT88

It's a closed wrap design. Yes, I feel it is underrated. It has to be one of the best values for the money - especially used. I have Kings, Jupiter XO's and Shires custom horns, and considering the price of a good used B88, it holds it's own in that crowd. I've seen it new (open wrap) for as little ...
by BillO
Thu May 24, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Blessing BT88
Replies: 8
Views: 1012

Re: Blessing BT88

I have a B88. It's a nice horn. It looks a lot like a Conn 88H but the sound is a little brighter. The slide and valve on these are well built and can be a smooth and slick as anything on the market. They are built at little bit heavily though and weigh a just noticeable amount more than the Conn. T...
by BillO
Mon May 14, 2018 8:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bore size
Replies: 3
Views: 685

Re: Bore size

I find the biggest things that contribute to the amount of air you need are dynamics and mouthpiece parameters. In other words, going from mf to f will require more air than it will to go from a .500 to a .547 both at mf. You will also find that the different moth pieces have different bores. These ...
by BillO
Fri May 04, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Science - is it allowed?
Replies: 17
Views: 2804

Re: Science - is it allowed?

I belong to the physics forum and several electronics forums. However, they don't usually object to discussing trombones in their off-topic areas. Perhaps they, being scientists, are a little more open-mined? :idk: Over at the physics forum, a discussion regarding a musical instrument would get very...

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