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by whitbey
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Corp 36 trigger weird?
Replies: 31
Views: 1796

Re: Corp 36 trigger weird?

elmsandr wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:33 pm
Under thumb trigger WITHOUT spacer flange:

https://www.trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=15690

Cheers,
Andy
Thanks Andy!
Interesting that that horn does not have a serial number either.
by whitbey
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Corp 36 trigger weird?
Replies: 31
Views: 1796

Re: Corp 36 trigger weird?

My 50B sat around Giardinelli for a while then was sent back for a second valve. There was a solder mark on the receiver like your picture where the original lever was and a lever like that in the case. I bought it in the 70's but the horn was in stock for years they said.
I just loved the sound.
by whitbey
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Adapting a trigger trombone for handicapped players
Replies: 24
Views: 1313

Re: Adapting a trigger trombone for handicapped players

Maybe a cordless foot peddle connected to an servo or solenoid. Model airplane and piano parts might be useful.
by whitbey
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages/disadvantages of dual bore?
Replies: 32
Views: 1663

Re: Advantages/disadvantages of dual bore?

Except for bass I need dual bore. For me single bore makes me either blow the MP off my face or makes me use too much pressure. I have some neurological things going on that I do not feel my face that well. Dual bore lets me just blow. I use a 547/562 for big groups and 525/547 for small. 500/508 fo...
by whitbey
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Are silver sonics magical?
Replies: 25
Views: 1906

Re: Are silver sonics magical?

I have a sterling silver Edwards bell. It is all that and more. The only issue is in a concert band or orchestra you do not get an edge on the strong attacks that is needed. I use it in orchestra when gentle and soft are the need with great results. Quintet... it is the ace. For solo and practice, i...
by whitbey
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Is this America?
Replies: 45
Views: 2225

Re: Is this America?

I thought this was a board of and about trombones.

The politics and statements in these threads are not nice.

Please blow this thread out of here.
by whitbey
Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dream Trombones?
Replies: 110
Views: 9783

Re: Dream Trombones?

It is good to see sterling silver bells made. My Edwards with the sterling silver bell is a dream horn.
I hope to get an alto bone someday with a sterling bell.
by whitbey
Fri May 29, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: What is this?
Replies: 11
Views: 1174

Re: What is this?

I have always thought a nice rotary valve section with a tuning slide that can be kicked would be a nice thing to have.
It would be great for those gigs where the trombones are stuffed in a nontrombone shaped space.

I like it.
by whitbey
Wed May 27, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why are earlier horns better?
Replies: 75
Views: 4926

Re: Why are earlier horns better?

About age and molecule alignment. Impossible to judge age change as my playing has changed more. I have an Edwards brass bell that was cryogenicly frozen. That is supposed to mimic the same effect as age. Got a chance to play the same bell that was stock. I can tell you there is an improvement but i...
by whitbey
Wed May 27, 2020 7:28 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Why are earlier horns better?
Replies: 75
Views: 4926

Re: Why are earlier horns better?

Today has yesterday's knowledge, so most top line horns today are top line. Many of yesterday's horns seem to have a sweet spot of perfect assembly and the metal has had time for the molecules. Ultimately, a horn and a mouthpiece are tools that work well with much practice. Finding the match of the ...
by whitbey
Mon May 25, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Opinions on wessex horns
Replies: 14
Views: 990

Re: Opinions on wessex horns

I have played a couple Hirsbrunner's including Earl Lauder's. All were absolutely incredible.
I would rebuild a Hirsbrunner before I bought a Chinese.
by whitbey
Mon May 25, 2020 6:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Friends Conn 88H value
Replies: 7
Views: 679

Re: Friends Conn 88H value

Ebay would not be the place I would go. I would suggest he place it on the this forum.
by whitbey
Sat May 23, 2020 7:05 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

When I was young I told my Grandma that when I grow up I wanted to play trombone. She told me I couldn’t do both.
by whitbey
Sat May 23, 2020 7:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?
Replies: 54
Views: 2378

Re: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?

When I was young I told my Grandma that when I grow up I wanted to play trombone. She told me I couldn’t do both.
by whitbey
Fri May 22, 2020 11:47 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Tenor leadpipe in a bass?
Replies: 16
Views: 921

Re: Tenor leadpipe in a bass?

I have done that. Years ago when I had fewer toys my tenor slide got hurt and I needed to use my bass slide on my 547. It worked ok. Better then not playing. An oddity. My small bore has a valve on it that is the Edwards 547 size. So I can put my 500/508 slide on my 547 horn and my 562 bass. The bas...
by whitbey
Thu May 21, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

It does not matter whether you win or lose, it is how the band plays.
by whitbey
Thu May 21, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?
Replies: 54
Views: 2378

Re: Do you play bass or tenor? Double? And why?

I like my toys.
I play bass, large tenor, small tenor, alto and euph.
Large bore tenor is my favorite sound. Practicing bass improves my air. Toys are fun.
by whitbey
Thu May 21, 2020 11:26 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Friends Conn 88H value
Replies: 7
Views: 679

Friends Conn 88H value

I have a friend that wants to sell an 88H. Need to figure to out a value for him. Serial no. is 9241xx He was a good high school player that has not played for many years now. Value? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eYhQBL_sOJEvwdrXR2652yGlzS-SBShh https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WKmPV4WmkNjQBQWi...
by whitbey
Mon May 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

"This report, by its very length, defends itself against the risk of being read."
by whitbey
Mon May 18, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

I'm so happy I could just fart glitter!!!
by whitbey
Sat May 16, 2020 8:34 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: BACH 42 Slide
Replies: 8
Views: 505

Re: BACH 42 Slide

Burgerbob wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:06 pm
Interesting. I would chalk that up to Bach rather than Edwards, though.
Yep. The Bach's are the variable.
by whitbey
Fri May 15, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: BACH 42 Slide
Replies: 8
Views: 505

Re: BACH 42 Slide

I have an Bach slide that fits my Edwards horns close enough. The slide tenon does not go in all the way and as such the nut threads on just a few threads. Push the tuning slide in a half inch and go. So if all things are the same then a Edwards slide may be loose. I'd say this is uncommon. I've ne...
by whitbey
Fri May 15, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: BACH 42 Slide
Replies: 8
Views: 505

Re: BACH 42 Slide

I have an Bach slide that fits my Edwards horns close enough. The slide tenon does not go in all the way and as such the nut threads on just a few threads. Push the tuning slide in a half inch and go.
So if all things are the same then a Edwards slide may be loose.
by whitbey
Thu May 14, 2020 6:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8 position alto?
Replies: 16
Views: 829

Re: 8 position alto?

Trill valve in 7th?
by whitbey
Mon May 11, 2020 7:48 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Trouble holding Rath small bore
Replies: 13
Views: 1381

Re: Trouble holding Rath small bore

I have had a curved brace on my horns for years. Works great. Similar to the straight bar on the Rath above, mine is curved. I also put wire loom harness covers on the tube. Cushy and comfy. You can see two horns in the pic below. The bass does not have the cover. Pick of my horns. https://drive.goo...
by whitbey
Fri May 08, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: shires bravo series.
Replies: 6
Views: 856

Re: shires bravo series.

Burgerbob wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 7:36 pm
BillO wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 6:39 pm
I have to wonder, what is the point of this branding?
To squeeze all they can out of the Shires brand in the lower market.
So many things out of China have one plant with many brand names. Part of the illusion.
by whitbey
Mon May 04, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Mouthpiece Express?
Replies: 26
Views: 4320

Re: Mouthpiece Express?

See if you can find an old school jeweler with a gold plating unit.
I use to know one. He passed away.
He would do the best plating job ever with a 4 to 8 hour turn around time.
by whitbey
Mon May 04, 2020 7:06 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Shires Trombones Today ?
Replies: 14
Views: 3287

Re: Shires Trombones Today ?

Who is the design guy now?
Not a big fan of anything China anymore.
by whitbey
Sun May 03, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Show me your stable
Replies: 79
Views: 6589

Re: Show me your stable

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1izx ... 0loMVRWNm8


My profile has my horns with a description.
by whitbey
Fri May 01, 2020 7:11 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: In a rut ???
Replies: 41
Views: 4228

Re: In a rut ???

While classical music has not changed, the popular music has changed. Popular music has become louder and more electronic. I think Forte has been redefined. I also think that small horns cut and big horns do big sound. Both are capable of loud, but big horns give classical music a better sound at th...
by whitbey
Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves
Replies: 7
Views: 1176

Re: Edwards Thayer vs. CR-E valves

I have an 547 Edwards CR-E valve. I love it! I had a Thayer valve long ago that I traded someone for the regular valve. My neck is big and there is so much mass to the valve I felt the response was slow. I bought the CR-E valve about 7 years ago. It has been great for me. The horn is very responsive...
by whitbey
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.
Replies: 8
Views: 933

Re: Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.

I have a few photos of the horn in my profile.
The first pic of all the horns on the stand shows the full horn.


The balance of the horn is good. Traditional wrap for the F and the C is bent over in a shepherds crook.
by whitbey
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.
Replies: 8
Views: 933

Re: Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.

FWIW, Hagmann offers this as a stock option on their TSBF+TSBDc valves which they describe as : Newest “ TWO STEP” style bass tb valve set : F valve with 14.8mm Bb duct bore and D valve with 15.2mm Bb duct bore. F and D ports with 15.00 mm bore. I don't know if any models offer this as stock or eve...
by whitbey
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.
Replies: 8
Views: 933

Larger bore tubing for bass bone 2nd valve.

At home working the phones next to my horns thinking it is time for a different post just for fun. I am curious if anyone else has tried larger tubing in the 2nd valve of their bass bone? I have a Bass Bach 50 horn. I bought the horn in the 1970’s when most 2nd valves were dependent in E or Eb. D wa...
by whitbey
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

You had to stand in line to hate him.
by whitbey
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

Never teach a wolf to meditate because it will become an "aware" wolf.
by whitbey
Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: For those of you who DON'T hate valve trombone...
Replies: 18
Views: 1425

Re: For those of you who DON'T hate valve trombone...

I have a F valve converted to Ab on my jazz horn. Pics in profile. That is a first valve. With alternate positions and a little practice I can play some pretty fast lines.
by whitbey
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Do Certain Sounds Enrage You?
Replies: 21
Views: 1698

Re: Do Certain Sounds Enrage You?

Sounds that require repair. Dragging brakes, incorrect machine sounds and copiers not picking up paper correctly. (Years of running heavy printing equipment, I hear doubles and dropped sheets.)
Sounds do not bother me as much as they alert me.
by whitbey
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Disinfecting a used trombone. Advice?
Replies: 24
Views: 1148

Re: Disinfecting a used trombone. Advice?

Doug Elliott wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:24 pm
You did that to a Giardinelli? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It was a damaged beyond repair mouthpiece.

Besides, all my MP are yours now. Except the bass and the pbone.
by whitbey
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach instruments and their consistency.
Replies: 35
Views: 4280

Re: Bach instruments and their consistency.

My Bass Bach 50 was bought in the 70’s from Giardinelli in New York. The sales guy I worked with said the horn was originally a single valve Mount Vernon horn that Giardinelli sent to Bach to add a second valve. He said it had been in their store for years before they sent it back. There was a solde...
by whitbey
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:49 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bought a dirty case help
Replies: 12
Views: 603

Re: Bought a dirty case help

This is good for trombone cases, cars and smelly houses. A bowl of vinegar with a rag floating in it. leave it sit for a day or few and the vinegar will absorb the smell. This will remove pizza and chili dog odors from my truck. I am a real estate guy and put a couple dozen dishes out in a condo tha...
by whitbey
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Disinfecting a used trombone. Advice?
Replies: 24
Views: 1148

Re: Disinfecting a used trombone. Advice?

I use a Dawn dish soap and vinegar combo. Pour it in the horn, use your snake and cleaning rod. After a soak a good rinse is needed. I have a few old mouthpieces soldered to garden hose fittings. Makes it easy to flush out the horn and do so often often. Pics of the mouthpieces soldered to garden ho...
by whitbey
Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Old guy rant
Replies: 111
Views: 9257

Re: Old guy rant

Yup. I am a realtor and find the same issue with agents returning phone calls and emails. One of my selling points to potential clients is I can do something that most cannot, I can return a phone call. That has gotten me a lot of biz. Funny how the gaming techno crowd does not understand how to use...
by whitbey
Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thein Tenor Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 719

Re: Thein Tenor Trombone

I tried a Thein once. This one was not well cared for but it played and looked 50 years older then my 1960's Bach.
Think os a PBone sound with a sackput (sp?) feel.
by whitbey
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:25 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Submerging whole rotor section in water
Replies: 17
Views: 847

Re: Submerging whole rotor section in water

In between disassembled cleanings I put a rubber wine cork in the end, pull the tune slides and fill the horn up past the valve with a water white vinegar combo. The vinegar combo is great for slide too. After a soak a good rinse is needed. I have a few old mouthpieces soldered to garden hose fittin...
by whitbey
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: hard gear vs soft gear.
Replies: 18
Views: 926

Re: hard gear vs soft gear.

You want to fix something, you need the right tool. Sometimes you can get away with close to the right tool like using a claw hammer to pound metal instead of a ball peen. Then a better hammer will hold up better and give you a better feel for what you are doing. Things are never perfect, but tools ...
by whitbey
Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:58 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Jokes and one liners from the back row
Replies: 76
Views: 9599

Re: Jokes and one liners from the back row

When our phones auto correct to "duck" it's still fowl language.
by whitbey
Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:11 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Strangest gigs
Replies: 77
Views: 9353

Re: Strangest gigs

This was strange AND gross... I got called for a variety band gig for a private club out in the sticks... all was normal until about 11:00... they locked the doors and someone got on a mic and said “It is time...”. Then... they all went at it... it was a swingers club, and we were on until 1:00... ...
by whitbey
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:55 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Red Rot found on newer vs. old horns
Replies: 7
Views: 1495

Re: Red Rot found on newer vs. old horns

So what can you do to slow or stop red rot?
by whitbey
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Edwards Trombone pillars
Replies: 23
Views: 1971

Re: Edwards Trombone pillars

Brass would be easy to make as you can buy brass rod at a hobby shop and thread it. After I played with the pillars from Edwards I tried several bolts and screws of differing hardness and length. The results were wild and crazy, but it showed how much so little can change a horn. On my straight neck...

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