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by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is there a good BBb contra?
Replies: 32
Views: 2034

Re: Is there a good BBb contra?

Glad you resolved this. There was a used Mirafone BBb contra listed for sale, in the $4000+ USD range, on one (or more) of the trombone-related Facebook market places.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Doug Elliot LT 103 rim
Replies: 0
Views: 62

WTB: Doug Elliot LT 103 rim

As stated in the subject line, I wish to buy a Doug Elliot LT 103 rim. It needs to be in very good to excellent condition (i.e. no nicks, plating wear, etc). Feel free to contact me via email (address in profile) or PM me. The former will elicit the fastest response. Thanks!
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:28 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?
Replies: 4
Views: 249

Re: Tempo 605/606 vs Nickel Plate Tempo--Tuning Slide Swap?

Hopefully, a tech or King afficiando will chime in. But, I found this previously on eBay: https://m.ebay.com/itm/King-Tempo-Trombone-Bell/183414586881?hash=item2ab45c7e01:g:~LkAAOSwq4dbjar-&_trkparms=gclientid%3D_EOUjMEo2li41pWRra5GZZcl8nTki4I73JLakrMb30FkNT6YUQj5zhuDRkeaUYZ6&_trksid=p2489528.m4335....
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: An Advised Persons Guide To The Science of Instrument Selection
Replies: 21
Views: 870

Re: An Advised Persons Guide To The Science of Instrument Selection

mrpillow wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:56 pm
:weep: I'm having Snorsworthy flashbacks
:lol: I was recently wondering if he has heard about this forum and tried to join?
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bach 50AF—adding a 2nd valve
Replies: 3
Views: 255

Bach 50AF—adding a 2nd valve

I have an opportunity to acquire a Bach Stradivarius brand-new 5OAF for, what I believe to be, a decent price. For those who aren’t familiar with this model, it’s a 50 with a single Infinity axial valve (by Instruments Innovations/Mike Olsen). For the price, I might be able to afford to add a second...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Giardinelli Black Nickle
Replies: 5
Views: 344

Re: Giardinelli Black Nickle

I would hope there is some kind of lacquer over it. Nickel oxide will rub off and stain everything it comes in contact with (including black tuxedos). My guess is that it will not be much different from any other finish. But it will look different! If that is the case Bruce, do you think there woul...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 51- 4G.
Replies: 14
Views: 710

Re: Schilke 51- 4G.

...wonder if maybe one of the Schilke Symph models could work? The 51D small we rim doesn’t work for me so well, and it’s a bit too deep. I own and have played the Schilke 51 and it’s derivatives and the 51D was my main trombone mouthpiece for years—still is on euphonium. I also own the Symphony M5...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: sending PMs
Replies: 11
Views: 333

Re: sending PMs

Sidenote for users in general: I'd recommend e-mail for these types of communications though everyone is obviously welcome to using the PM system. E-mail is definitely my preferred method of communication. When you use the 'contact' button someone, there should be an e-mail icon next to the PM opti...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: sending PMs
Replies: 11
Views: 333

Re: sending PMs

Aha, upon further investigation, this is intended behavior of the phpBB software and not really feasible to change unless there's been a major development since this thread in 2015. Interesting 'feature'... Indeed You can sort of avoid this by checking your messages as you receive them (I'm really ...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How to recognize a corporation Bach
Replies: 8
Views: 370

Re: How to recognize a corporation Bach

I can attest that a Corporation era Bach 36/36B is something really special. There is a range of serial numbers (production years) where the bells were hammered by a certain artisan and seem thicker; maybe some magic involved. DJ Kennedy calls these "chocolate"—they're amazing. There was a thread on...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: sending PMs
Replies: 11
Views: 333

Re: sending PMs

So, you can delete a message you sent someone? I have a recent message in my inbox that says "This message was deleted by its author." While I suppose it is a good feature to have this option, it seems odd that I can still see that someone sent me a message and then deleted it. It would be nice to k...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombone Materials
Replies: 40
Views: 4334

Re: Trombone Materials

hyperbolica wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:50 pm
LarryPrestonRoberson wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:11 pm
What is the material used for the main tuning slide of an original Elkhart Conn 88H?
yellow brass.
Thanks!
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombone Materials
Replies: 40
Views: 4334

Re: Trombone Materials

What is the material used for the main tuning slide of an original Elkhart Conn 88H?
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Venus Trombone
Replies: 3
Views: 465

Re: Venus Trombone

BGuttman wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:26 pm
I got a Venus Trombone. Does anybody know where they are made?
Euphoniums (tenor tubas) are from Mars. Trombones are from Venus.

There are a couple of bad jokes in that.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:45 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach 42 Centennial
Replies: 7
Views: 396

Re: Bach 42 Centennial

Reviews ? Below, I have provided a partial one. I've played one. I thought it was very, very good. Why doesn’t it surprise me that you’ve tried one? :tongue: The LT42BOFG in particular is quite nice...Bottom line: if you like Bach then you’ll probably like them! I haven’t tried the LT42BOFG. But, I...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Valve Oil
Replies: 12
Views: 901

Re: Valve Oil

Regardless if it's a new acquisition or a horn that you've owned for years, it's a good idea to clean the instrument when changing valve oils. Or at the very least, clean the valves and casings. This is a particular consideration when going from traditional valve oils (e.g. petroleum distillates) to...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:30 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: FS: Reunion Blues Leather Bag - SOLD
Replies: 7
Views: 603

Re: FS: Reunion Blues Leather Bag - Price Drop to $175

Driswood wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:27 am
Okay, I really need to move this. Price drop to $175. Or make an offer.
Is this still available? I’ve sent couple of PMs. I have an opportunity to buy another case. So if possible, please let me know either way. Thanks!
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:53 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Cases
Topic: FS: Reunion Blues Leather Bag - SOLD
Replies: 7
Views: 603

Re: FS: Reunion Blues Leather Bag - Price Drop to $175

Is this still available? PM sent.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Experience with Paypal buyers protection
Replies: 10
Views: 579

Re: Experience with Paypal buyers protection

I had a similar situation, but through a sale at eBay. The monetary transaction was through PayPal. The seller never responded—damaged tuba. EBay would refund transaction, through PayPal, but only after return payment of said tuba.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Bach 36 (or 42) BO Attachment Tuning Slide
Replies: 3
Views: 195

Re: WTB: Bach 36 (or 42) BO Attachment Tuning Slide

Neo Bri wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:17 pm
...I'm not sure, but I think the 36BO and 42BO slides are identical.
Yes, they are. Besides the slide and the receiver, all the components are the same. The bell of the 36 the same taper as the 42, but cut with a 1/2” smaller diameter.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Slide
Replies: 20
Views: 818

Re: Slide

Doug Elliott wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:48 am
Brasso is really hard to wash out.
Yes it is. That's why the Slide Dr. uses Wright's brass polish. Which, I believe, is water based versus Brasso, which is oil based. I'm not 100% sure on that, but maybe Bruce or one of the other chemists can confirm—or someone who has a bottle of both to compare.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Georg Christoph Wagenseil: Concerto for Alto Trombone
Replies: 1
Views: 170

Georg Christoph Wagenseil: Concerto for Alto Trombone

Any recommendations for particular editions of Georg Christoph Wagenseil: Concerto for Alto trombone and Piano ? I've heard there is a PDF on IMSLP, manuscript perhaps, but I cannot locate it; This would be helpful as to develop my own interpretation (versus an edited one) and would likely be in the...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: old King trombone series
Replies: 15
Views: 823

Re: old King trombone series

pompatus wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:04 pm
LarryPrestonRoberson wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:46 pm
So, was there ever a 5B?
The 5B (2105F) was a .547 bore with 9” bell and F-attachment.
Okay, thanks. Is the main difference between the 4BF/Sonorous and 5B, the bell size—8.5” vs. 9”?
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: old King trombone series
Replies: 15
Views: 823

Re: old King trombone series

So, was there ever a 5B?
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:15 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Schilke 51 large shank
Replies: 2
Views: 181

Re: WTB: Schilke 51 large shank

If you're an Amazon user, Brook Mays Music has new ones for $68.55 with FREE Shipping. If I recall correctly, this is how I bought mine a few years ago. That's the best deal on new I've seen. As far as used, I did't find any in the usual places.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Leather Covers for valve sections
Replies: 5
Views: 526

Re: Leather Covers for valve sections

Zandit75 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:30 pm
Thanks for your input Larry. Calling them is not really workable for me, as I'm in Australia.
I'll make contact with them via email and discuss the material option like you suggested.
Thanks again.
Oops, sorry. Good luck!
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Expired Certification in Some Browsers
Replies: 12
Views: 718

Re: Expired Certification in Some Browsers

The verification is going to take longer than expected. This is not my choice, but it is the way it is, unfortunately. I promise that nothing nefarious is going on...mostly waiting. Or, nothing like this: http://www.tromboneforum.org/ :tongue: Seriously though, thanks to all you guys for making thi...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:31 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Leather Covers for valve sections
Replies: 5
Views: 526

Re: Leather Covers for valve sections

Hickey’s has a huge stock. The majority of what they sell is by Leather Specialties. Others include Griego, Protec (I think). You can also buy directly from Leather Specialties. The company was founded by Larry Black, retired trumpeter with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra. Anyway, you may want to con...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece
Replies: 8
Views: 505

Re: Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece

Thanks for chiming in guys. I'll comment further and try to post pics soon. I the very beginning I made just 2 or 3 for them, and I don't know what happened to them or how they were labeled. Your description sounds like it could be one of those. That's really cool Doug. Also, I've been trying to con...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: MEK
Replies: 5
Views: 335

Re: MEK

Mouthpieces are heavy and can be costly to ship more than a few of them at the same time. Maybe it would make sense to accumulate the pieces in a central, or semi central (e.g. we have someone in the US on the West Coast, East Coast, TX, etc.) that hold onto pieces. Then if you want to try somethin...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bach 1864 case fit?
Replies: 7
Views: 309

Re: Bach 1864 case fit?

pompatus wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:47 pm
Does anyone have experience with these old cases, or have one laying around that you could check with a 50B slide?
I have a 50 slide, but a student of mine is borrowing my 36B in the 1864 case. We have a lesson tomorrow; I'll try to remember to take the slide to check.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece
Replies: 8
Views: 505

Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece

Does anyone have experience with the Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece? I haven't been able to find any information on this particular mouthpiece. Most Web searches yield results for the Yamaha Eugene Watts signature model trombone mouthpiece, which this is clearly not. There isn't ...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:51 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: Expired Certification in Some Browsers
Replies: 12
Views: 718

Re: Expired Certification in Some Browsers

It is present in Google Chrome as well. It’s mostly just annoying. It’s worse in Firefox. Every time you change pages you have to allow it. I know you guys will solve the issue. Thanks to all the guys who keep this place up and running!
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: 7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.
Replies: 4
Views: 293

Re: 7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.

Take I-81 up the spine of the Appalachian Mountains. You can visit Luray Caverns in Virginia. As you approach New York City, stop in New Jersey at Dillon's. best selection of used instruments you will see anywhere. Nice suggestion Bruce. I love Appalachia. And I've always wanted to visit Dillon's; ...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:13 pm
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: 7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.
Replies: 4
Views: 293

7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.

Hi folks! As the title suggests, my family is taking a vacation (7/16-23) to New York City to visit my wife's extended family; We are driving from Atlanta, GA. I am soliciting suggestions for our time in the big city, but also along the road. We will probably stop for a night along the way, to and f...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Budget large trombones
Replies: 13
Views: 718

Re: Budget large trombones

The Yamaha YSL-448G is definitely the common fleet horn for many schools. In particular, larger universities and colleges outfit the marching band with these—uniformity of appearance and sound. In Georgia, UGA and Georgia State (GSU) come to mind. Also, many of the GSU trombonists, who don’t have th...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bill Watrous
Replies: 12
Views: 860

Re: Bill Watrous

Aw man, there goes another great I had hoped to meet! Sadly, I was just think about this the other day...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:27 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve
Replies: 8
Views: 503

S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve

I wasn’t sure which sub-forum in which to post this. Sorry, if it’s the wrong place. Anyway, I’m soliciting opinions about the S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve for tenor trombone. Specifically, how does the throw (actuation) compare to that of traditional and axial valves? I know the flow/blow is suppose...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Versions of the Bach 16
Replies: 16
Views: 848

Re: Versions of the Bach 16

The LT16M is .509" bore. Mine dates to the 80s and I believe it is the regular gooseneck. Or, at least it lacks the 'M' designation on the bell section. Although, I bought it secondhand; So, I suppose it might not be the original bell section.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece cleaning
Replies: 14
Views: 757

Re: Mouthpiece cleaning

Regular old isopropyl alcohol from the drug store. +++ I use the 91% stuff -- also when cleaning my slide and my black powder rifle (it's a versatile cleaner and solvent!!). I don't rinse it since it evaporates almost instantly. I use this myself—good old rubbing alcohol. But, I guess vodka would d...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which Bach model is this?
Replies: 25
Views: 1106

Re: Which Bach model is this?

Also, the tuning slide receivers appear to be yellow brass and not nickel. And they lack the edge rings—can't recall what you call them.
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha 643
Replies: 3
Views: 298

Re: Yamaha 643

There was a thread, or two, about the YSL-643 on TTF. Perhaps it's in the archives. The YSL-643 was one Renold Schilke's designs, when he was consulting for Yamaha. There were two versions. The original had a nickel slide and a .551" bore. The updated YSL-643 II had a yellow brass slide and, I belie...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:11 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88HLTOW?
Replies: 8
Views: 650

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Lightweight , thinned bell, open wrap, wide slide? (I'm guessing based on the most common uses of those suffixes with trombone specs.) My thoughts are generally the same. The ‘W’ is where I’m puzzled. I thought maybe grouped as ‘OW’ it might be open wrap. I think I’ve seen LTW for light weight with...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:53 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 88HLTOW?
Replies: 8
Views: 650

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Conn 88HLTOW? O = open wrap The other letters could mean different things depending on how they’re grouped. In the past (maybe currently) Conn offered an 88HT. Which, had a thin bell. I know other makers, such as Bach, use LT to designate light weight. Which, refers to a light weight slide (usually ...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Bach artisan tuning slide (for A47)
Replies: 3
Views: 314

Re: WTB: Bach artisan tuning slide (for A47)

Which alloy, yellow brass, gold brass, or nickel? Hickeys’s Music Center has them for $289—list price $400. Or if you have a Bach 42 (36) tuning slide, you can have it reversed—small tube (leg) switched traded with the receiver. Some players have this done on the 42/36. Of course you’d need the reci...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Student upgrade from Blessing B88-O
Replies: 35
Views: 1420

Re: Student upgrade from Blessing B88-O

I don’t have firsthand experience, but I’ve heard favorable opinions about the MACK Brass MACK-TB831L Double Valve Bass Bone. And it’s under a grand new. Supposedly, it’s a copy of the Yamaha YBL-830. The tuba models seem to be regarded rather highly as well. I’ve heard customer service is excellent...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO
Replies: 16
Views: 1062

Re: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO

What did Ray say about it? Usually he's pretty responsive about your slide after he's worked on it. I found that it took a week after Ray got his hands on it for it to get back into good shape when I had a procedure done on one of my Shires slides. But suddenly one application of trombotine later a...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Beginner Euphonium
Replies: 13
Views: 913

Re: Beginner Euphonium

For used stuff, you should probably be looking on Tubenet (http://forums.chisham.com/index.php?sid=df83be6475b5905e74298762b7cb3f6a) or, better for euphoniums, Dave Werden's forum ( http://www.dwerden.com/forum/forum.php#.Wxm-ykgvyUl). Posting something on one of these forums saying you're looking ...
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Sat May 12, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs
Replies: 6
Views: 729

Re: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs

Now, my unsolicited opinion. Your idea sounds like overkill, though if it makes you happy, have at it. Yep, that's me—obsessive personality type. The acid in question is normally carbonic acid, formed as carbon dioxide dissolves in water. It's the same acid that is in most fizzy soft drinks (Coca-C...

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