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by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.
Replies: 31
Views: 365

Re: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.

Part of public speaking is understanding your audience and selecting a topic that will engage them. Delivering a speech is not just about you, but about a connection between you and your audience. Yes, you need to speak on a topic that you know well, but you also need to find some common ground with...
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bach 5QB2O?
Replies: 6
Views: 199

Re: Bach 5QB2O?

I'd send it to the slide doctor, and if you can't live with the trigger mechanism, get it switched to a middle finger set up. Maybe a chem clean, valve alignment, lube, and then cruise. Or just send it to me, I'll try to enjoy it for you :cool:
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:33 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.
Replies: 31
Views: 365

Re: “Trombone” not suitable for informative speech.

maybe you could back up a little without caving in. Talk about free speech in contemporary music.
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

Yeah, there are a lot of great options as starting points. Interestingly, I own a 1662i, and it is what I'm running away from. I had a near drowning experience several years back, and my lungs just haven't been the same since. I'm scaling down in part due to air issues. I'm not adverse to a dependen...
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

If you ignore the bore and the bell, you're right back where you started. The tr-159 is a magnificent instrument. The Olds S-20 adds TIS to the mix. That Amati looks interesting. Options exist that play in the space between bass and tenor without paying for a full on custom rig.
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

@pre59, yeah, that was one of the options discussed. I'd put a plugin valve on it, but the OP wants indy valves.
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:28 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

@Bonearzt, doesn't the 181 have a huge 10" bell?
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

I can't speak for the OP, but I was looking not just for light, but also physically smaller for a more tromboney sound. Thus the 9" bell and 547/562 slide.
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

Amati. I hadn't considered looking under that particular rock. It looks interesting, and inexpensive.
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?
Replies: 35
Views: 707

Re: Lightweight bright indy bass trombone for big band ?

Yeah, this is the same quest that I've been on recently. The Olds P24G is a great horn for this type of playing. Unfortunately, those don't just grow on trees, and it does lack the dual bore slide. You've already mentioned the Holton TR159, and some of the dual bore 70h models. There are also some O...
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?
Replies: 28
Views: 1544

Re: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?

I think that oversimplifies it somewhat. There are inherent differences between a cello and a trombone, the most important of which is that sound on the trombone has to be interrupted now and then to breathe. The Bach cello suites are just more difficult to phrase on a trombone the way they were ori...
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3b vs New Proportion
Replies: 3
Views: 198

Re: 3b vs New Proportion

Thanks, guys, I guess that's why they're so cheap.
by hyperbolica
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: The progression of, erm, progression?
Replies: 0
Views: 98

The progression of, erm, progression?

I'm interested in reading about the evolution of the use of chords and tonality from Bach to Ellington or thereabouts. Anyone have a book or series of articles to recommend?
by hyperbolica
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3b vs New Proportion
Replies: 3
Views: 198

3b vs New Proportion

I've played 3bs before, but I've never played the New Proportion. These are supposed to be 508 w/ 7.5" bell, 1900s-30s, friction fit slide. Generally they sell pretty cheap. How do they compare to the 3b? Anyone own/play one?
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?
Replies: 28
Views: 1544

Re: Bach Cello suites - do you prefer tenor or bass trombone?

Wow. You know initially I thought yeah, the alto would be better because you can do more with phrasing. But hearing Lindberg play, that was really jarring. LaRosa's interpretation was so much better, and it didn't seem out of Bach or cello character. Lindberg is a great performer, but this interpret...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 606 value
Replies: 4
Views: 113

Re: King 606 value

606's in better condition are readily available, so one that's beat up shouldn't cost much. On eBay, they range from $75 to over a thousand for a new one. Used ones average around $300. I found 25 of them with a single eBay search. There's one for $150 that looks to be in good condition from a selle...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 161
Views: 5691

Re: Db bass trombone!

If you want to sell more than a handful of these instruments, you should consider Pete Edwards idea. His ideas were posted in the old TTF, and his horn is practical right out of the gate without relearning anything, or without stretching any instrument classifications. You're fighting the connection...
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Conn 78H for Sale
Replies: 4
Views: 281

Re: Conn 78H for Sale

PM sent
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?
Replies: 20
Views: 677

Re: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?

Back to the OP, that Wessex is a fine instrument. I haven't played it specifically but I've played so many so much like it that I feel I know what it's about. I would equate it a Holton tr-159. You have to be a really powerful player to get the most from this. It's really built on the Friedman model...
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

JohnL,
the first 3 of the serial are 740xxx.
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

I thought the horn was from 1979, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's not a historical relic, it's not in fantastic condition, and these horns don't seem that widely sought after, so I'm going to have the leadpipe/receiver replaced so I can use normal mouthpieces properly. Looks like I might have an ...
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?
Replies: 20
Views: 677

Re: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?

I had my TR156 in the late 80s. It was a 547/562 no trigger 9" bell Friedman tenor. I never explored the low range with it, but for orchestral tenor stuff - 1st parts - it was very powerful. I played a lot back then, and could drive that kind of hardware, even in the high range. These days, having d...
by hyperbolica
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?
Replies: 20
Views: 677

Re: Dual Bore Tenor Bone = Slide Euphonium?

I've also got a 547/562 Olds (S-20) and I've owned a 547/562 Conn 70h as well as a 547/562 Holton TR159 and a TR156. In each case, the dual bore slide gives the instrument more "heft" to the sound without requiring more air. In the case of the Olds, I'm using it to back off what I consider the "slid...
by hyperbolica
Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

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by hyperbolica
Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

I received the Olds G mouthpiece, and it fits into the receiver the same way that the other standard mouthpieces fit (which is about 3/8" too shallow). The horn is an Olds S-20 (9" bell, 547/562 dual bore, TIS). I have 5 mouthpieces that I might consider using on this horn, but so far none of them f...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: UK BrassBand pitch is confusing me, help!!
Replies: 8
Views: 185

Re: UK BrassBand pitch is confusing me, help!!

I 've also got a question about this type of transposition. If reading a brass band score and you see treble clef parts in 2 flats and 3 flats, do you read all the notes the same? I'm assuming these were Bb cornet and some Eb instrument. Would a top line F (concert) be the same for all instruments?
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

Right now I'm using standard large shank 1.25 and 2 g. They sit about 3/8" less into the receiver, and play very flat. Anything will be an improvement. My S-20 is much later, I think 1979, so the G may be a bit small.
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Holton TR180
Replies: 3
Views: 361

Re: FS: Holton TR180

Drool. Just out of curiosity, what did you keep over this? I mean aside from your cat, of course.
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

Ok, thanks! Item obtained!
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

I think that was what the 21 was called previous to its name being changed. What condition is it in and how much do you want for it? (I'm hoping to actually play it, not just collect.)
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

Posaunus wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:59 pm
Just curious - what size is an Olds 21? Must be pretty rare. Large (Olds) or small (Olds) shank? :idk:
Large bore. 1.5G size, special shank
by hyperbolica
Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

Re: WTB: Olds 21

Anyone have something like this getting dusty on a shelf?
by hyperbolica
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:29 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Arm soreness while playing
Replies: 14
Views: 310

Re: Arm soreness while playing

My experience with my bass was that once I got it balanced (forward/aft) to "neutral buoyancy", all my left arm/hand pain disappeared and it was a pleasure to play. But if I was having to exert any kind of pressure from hand or arm to keep it oriented correctly, it was a painful unpleasant mess. Wh...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Arm soreness while playing
Replies: 14
Views: 310

Re: Arm soreness while playing

I get the same pain with my bass bone. I think it's bursitis.you might try taking some Allee or Similar before playing. I took a couple of weeks off that horn, and it helped a little. The only other thing is there ergo bone. It's the only thing that takes the weight off that part of the arm. A grip ...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 161
Views: 5691

Re: Db bass trombone!

So if the Bb bass trombone is called the tenorbass then I guess this is the altobass? In theory, sure, although I've never heard a bass called a tenorbass before. Yamaha calls several models tenor basses, but they are bigger than tenors in some way. I like the idea, but Pete's idea is more practica...
by hyperbolica
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jazz trombone
Replies: 9
Views: 381

Re: Jazz trombone

I have a 24h in great playing condition from the 1930s I could be convinced to sell. Small bore, authentic sound.
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Bach lt16m
Replies: 2
Views: 719

Re: FS: Bach LT16M. SOLD

Horn is sold.

Thanks
by hyperbolica
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: 5b or equiv
Replies: 8
Views: 538

Found a horn

Found an Olds S-20 that will do the trick.
Thanks.
by hyperbolica
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Multi Bore slide receiver
Replies: 6
Views: 227

Re: Multi Bore slide receiver

The Conn 88h can accept a 525, 547 and 562 slide without any adapters. They've been doing this for a long time. I personally use both 525 and 547 on my Elkhart, I feel with great success. Is this Haggman idea somehow different?
by hyperbolica
Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:35 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: King 5b -doesn't seem to be brass?
Replies: 9
Views: 400

Re: King 5b -doesn't seem to be brass?

That's just the color of the underlying brass when the orange colored lacquer has been scratched off.
by hyperbolica
Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Double trigger C and b natural
Replies: 22
Views: 527

Re: Double trigger C and b natural

leak in the horn? Loose connection somewhere? Fill it up with water and see if you spring a leak somewhere.
by hyperbolica
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Double trigger C and b natural
Replies: 22
Views: 527

Re: Double trigger C and b natural

Maybe you should step back. The 93D is a pretty big mouthpiece to not be able to play pedals. Do you have access to smaller mouthpieces? It seems like you need to get the mechanics of how the pedals work, which even tenor players can play on small bore horns with small mouthpieces. Something you sho...
by hyperbolica
Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: WTB: Olds 21
Replies: 17
Views: 583

WTB: Olds 21

I'm looking for an Olds 21 mouthpiece in serviceable condition.
PM or email hyperbolica at outlook daht calm.
by hyperbolica
Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:28 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic
Replies: 19
Views: 698

Re: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic

Yeah. But if the bass bone produces a too "raucous" sound -- particularly in passages with low dynamics in the octave below the staff -- the musical effect resulting is not pleasant or what's desired. With "commercial" horns, it can be challenging to produce a sound in that range with the tubas tha...
by hyperbolica
Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:57 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic
Replies: 19
Views: 698

Re: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic

I find it difficult to "blend" with the tubas on my 7B clone. My guess is that it would be better on a Bach or such. However, when we do most things in the band, I'm really happy with the sound I get from the horn. When we did "Pirates of the Caribbean" this past season, this horn was GREAT. It dou...
by hyperbolica
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic
Replies: 19
Views: 698

Re: Bass Trombone Jazz/Symphonic

Jazz bass bone wants a bit of bark, but you need to be able to make a number of sounds. Its a separate instrument, but you've also got to play with the bari sax and the bass guitar. Sometimes you will play with each of those, and sometimes you'll be your own bass voice. And sometimes you'll just be ...
by hyperbolica
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Source for Levers
Replies: 10
Views: 339

Re: Source for Levers

I had my lever replaced on my old Bach bass bone after it was damaged. I wanted the lever closer to the horn for a shorter throw and to line up with my large hand. The lever was just brass bar stock brazed. Because it was brazed it was soft so a second bar was soldered on for strength. Been good fo...
by hyperbolica
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Source for Levers
Replies: 10
Views: 339

Re: Source for Levers

Good eye. Yes, it's an S-20. You don't think I can use some more standard levers? Other behind the brace levers?
by hyperbolica
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Source for Levers
Replies: 10
Views: 339

Source for Levers

I've recently bought a horn and some parts for a valve conversion project (converting a single valve horn to a double dependent). I'm just short some levers. The "new" rotors are string drive, but I suppose could be converted to something else. What kind of levers can I get that are going to be comp...
by hyperbolica
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:43 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Trigger happy
Replies: 16
Views: 481

Re: Trigger happy

I have not played a horn like that for an extended period of time, but I think when I did, I jogged my hand back so the bell brace hits my hand closer to the base of the forefinger, and my thumb had more room to move. Depending on the size of your hand, this might work well in conjunction with Bruce...

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