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by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Very rough ballpark estimates on converting bass bones to new valve setups?
Replies: 9
Views: 223

Re: Very rough ballpark estimates on converting bass bones to new valve setups?

I agree that you'd probably be better with buying a complete horn. I pieced together a bass from used components for about $1400, including horn, parts and labor, but I was using older, less expensive stuff (40 year old dependent rotors from a King 6b, and an Olds S-20 single valve starting point). ...
by hyperbolica
Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Accessory Pouch
Replies: 13
Views: 293

Re: Accessory Pouch

You can buy Crown Royal bags in various sizes. With or without the booze. https://www.amazon.com/Crown-Royal-Purple-Large-Dice/dp/B00TEUTGFC/ref=asc_df_B00TEUTGFC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167137470607&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10834962462758655307&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&h...
by hyperbolica
Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: LI Brass Co Baritone Trombone
Replies: 10
Views: 350

Re: LI Brass Co Baritone Trombone

Isn't it more correctly named a contralto?

And just to be clear, this is used, right?
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Best option for a 72h replacement slide
Replies: 4
Views: 267

Re: Best option for a 72h replacement slide

Just as a follow up, I contacted MK and they said for $390 I could get a set of inners and outers for the 72h. Along with a donor slide for the braces, barrels, tenon, leadpipe and crook, (plus shipping and labor), and you've resurrected a slide. Surely someone has a cheap, trashed 72h slide out the...
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schiller Instruments
Replies: 4
Views: 172

Re: Schiller Instruments

Some are ok and some aren't. Jim Laabs gets variable scores from customers as well. No real guarantees you're going to wind up with something you're happy with. If you're expecting something wonderful, you might look elsewhere. Go somewhere you can try some used instruments. Try-before-buy is really...
by hyperbolica
Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Finding the custom horn for me
Replies: 51
Views: 1235

Re: Finding the custom horn for me

Don't waste your time looking for the holy grail at this point in your life, primarily because the idea that a holy grail exists is just a figment of your desire for shiny stuff right now. You can't understand custom horn offerings until you understand what a standard 36b or 6h is all about. You don...
by hyperbolica
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:37 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: unmarked trombone
Replies: 7
Views: 289

Re: unmarked trombone

Wouldn't a B88 have a red brass bell?
by hyperbolica
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 44H Vocabell
Replies: 15
Views: 658

Re: Conn 44H Vocabell

It has a reserve. I bet it doesn't meet the reserve. I'd guess the reserve is outrageous (because it's a nice horn) but the bidders won't meet it. I think the bidding will go over $500 but it won't sell.
by hyperbolica
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: unmarked trombone
Replies: 7
Views: 289

Re: unmarked trombone

Might be a 72h with some image distortion and a bad slide tenon repair. Definitely a Conn bass slide and a conn trigger and wrap. Could be a lot of things if the bell was replaced. Like a 72h slide with an 88h bell section with a B&S yellow bell. But the bell brace reinforcement is not a diamond, so...
by hyperbolica
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:17 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h
Replies: 27
Views: 6298

Re: Conn 6h

I imagine the popularity came down to 2 things - price and the 48h being kind of a niche horn, while the 6h is more of an all purpose instrument. Plus the 6h was produced for more years than the 48h. Given the choice, I'd probably pick a 48h, although I think most people would pick the 6h. Both are ...
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Bb / F Thumb Lever
Replies: 4
Views: 193

Re: Bb / F Thumb Lever

I'm a little confused by what you are asking for. Are you selling the 421... used? Which is somehow undercutting your local dealer (you mentioned for the part so you can put it on the 421) but you also mentioned ordering a complete horn worth of parts which obviously wouldn't make sense if you are ...
by hyperbolica
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: OTJ Classifieds Closed
Replies: 1
Views: 275

OTJ Classifieds Closed

Chris ran a nice service for the tbone community. I'm sorry to see this go. I have yet to actually buy anything on facebook, I guess I prefer the old school stuff. I tend to buy/sell more here than anywhere. eBay gets worse and worse all the time. Anyway, sorry Chris had to close it up. I know scamm...
by hyperbolica
Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Best option for a 72h replacement slide
Replies: 4
Views: 267

Best option for a 72h replacement slide

I've read a previous thread about bad combinations and other ridiculous stuff like that. You could conceivably use a TIS slide, and lock it at a given lengrh. Or a slide that's not quite long enough like an SL6262, and just play it an inch off the bumpers and forget about 7th position. Is there a pr...
by hyperbolica
Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: My Yamaha trombone made me bleed!!
Replies: 20
Views: 625

Re: My Yamaha trombone made me bleed!!

Snake bite! Yes, I 've done this to my self many times. Interesting how you say your horn did this to you. Keep your hand away from the slide. If you've got big hands just make sure you're not lazy about your hand position. You can also use a grip like a Getagrip, or a Neotech. Also, some horns have...
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: 78h (or 79h)
Replies: 9
Views: 226

Re: WTB: 78h (or 79h)

Actually, I think it is closer to 7 7/8". I like the more compact, focused sound. If you're used to bells in the 8" range, this will feel right at home. If you're sensitive to the feedback you get from the horn, then yes, a little bit of difference will be noticeable. Whether that's a positive thing...
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 44H Vocabell
Replies: 15
Views: 658

Re: Conn 44H Vocabell

Some people like them, some don't. I personally have never played one, and I'm not really interested, but I have a friend who says he wants one. I see a lot of them for sale used, but I've never seen one at a gig. Depending on condition, of course, $500-750 ish.
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:40 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: 78h (or 79h)
Replies: 9
Views: 226

Re: WTB: 78h (or 79h)

I one time bought a 79h for $2000, but it was pristine and silver plated. Totally unique. I also sold that for what I paid for it. It played great, not greater than the one I have for sale at BB. $2100 would have to be pretty magical. I personally have never liked a 78 as much as a 79. 78s always se...
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: 78h (or 79h)
Replies: 9
Views: 226

Re: WTB: 78h (or 79h)

That 79h at Baltimore is mine. It's a great horn. Very versatile. I was very conflicted about selling it. It overlaps a lot with my 88h w/525 on one end and my Shires MD+ on the other. I'd be happy to answer questions about it. I don't think it's overpriced, as used horns go, especially a 79h.
by hyperbolica
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h
Replies: 27
Views: 6298

Re: Conn 6h

Could someone help me with the characteristics of each so that I can make a decision on what to buy as in the age of the internet you can't try before you buy. Many Thanks I'm not sure I'd use a 10h for lead. Solos yes. I owned one for a number of years, and loved it, but when it came down to it, I...
by hyperbolica
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Schilke 53
Replies: 8
Views: 364

Re: Schilke 53

Schilke 53 (according to Doug Elliott's XT comparison chart) is approximately a 104 rim F cup. I play a 104G on large tenor. Several other people on this forum play the same or something similar. But to your original question, according to Doug's chart, the Schilke 53 is shallower than current Bach ...
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: iReal Pro
Replies: 7
Views: 295

Re: iReal Pro

Ok, thx. I downloaded the play lists. That's a big help. Now I'm remembering why it sat idle. There's changes but no melody. Do I have to bring along a Real book? Or is there a setting somewhere to show the melody.?

I should be able to plug my phone into a boom box, which might be loud enough.
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: iReal Pro
Replies: 7
Views: 295

iReal Pro

I've had iReal Pro on my phone for 2 years now and haven't used it at all. How do you all use it? Where do you get tunes from? How do you amplify it? Any tips for getting started are welcome. Thx.
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombones bore size 0,525 and F/attachment
Replies: 26
Views: 1108

Re: Trombones bore size 0,525 and F/attachment

My main axe is an 88h with a 525 slide. Great horn. I used to play a 79h. Also a great horn. I think the 88h has a greater expressive range, which in this context means you have more control over the sound. I've played a Shires like Sterb mentioned, and it was very 88h-ish with the 547 slide. I also...
by hyperbolica
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schagerl James Morrison Bb/F 525
Replies: 2
Views: 238

Re: Schagerl James Morrison Bb/F 525

Looks like a student horn with some finish options. King 607 with a wire buffing wheel?
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: SOLD!!!!! CONN 78H (79h) ROTOR SECTION
Replies: 8
Views: 402

Re: FS/FT CONN 78H (79h) ROTOR SECTION

Posaunus, Some wrong info here. 78h were very popular as symphonic instruments up through the 1950s. In fact the 78h was called the Symphony model for a while. They were made at least as far back as the 1920s. The 79h came into being in mid 1960s, I think. Also, I've owned a 79h from the UMI period,...
by hyperbolica
Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Valve Bass Trombones
Replies: 22
Views: 901

Re: Single Valve Bass Trombones

Yeah, the 159 isn't a real bass bone, but it's a lot more than just a tenor. The one I had played great down low, but you could also play it as a tenor. If I had one again, I'd put a plug in valve in it, and wouldn't care about what people say. It's a great instrument for down on and under the staff...
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Personal problem
Replies: 12
Views: 581

Re: Personal problem

Talk to Doug.
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Personal problem
Replies: 12
Views: 581

Re: Personal problem

Heavy marks on your upper lip is probably the cause of too much pressure. It can happen when playing loud, or playing for a long time. You might want to look for a mouthpiece with a wider rim, to distribute the pressure over more area. Back off on the pressure if you can. I don't think the size of m...
by hyperbolica
Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Altieri gig bags being redesigned
Replies: 4
Views: 206

Re: Altieri gig bags being redesigned

I've got an Altieri, and think they are a good design, but in general the materials they use could be a step up. The pack nylon they use is very thin, and the straps are fairly narrow. The rigid foam around the slide is great, maybe a little overkill.
by hyperbolica
Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Are bass bone players doing it all wrong?
Replies: 25
Views: 879

Re: Are bass bone players doing it all wrong?

I believe there is always to some degree, positive or negative, some sort of synergy between each player and a horn. If you and your horn work together to make a great sound, that's great. If you and a particular horn are working at cross-purposes, then you're going to feel like it's fighting you (b...
by hyperbolica
Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Looking for a new mouthpiece.
Replies: 19
Views: 500

Re: Looking for a new mouthpiece.

Try to find something used. Or go to a shop (or a local pro) who has a bunch. The 51 plays like a 5 g but bigger, is all I remember about it. A lot of people tend to complain about the 51d, so you might avoid that one. Dillons sells used mouthpieces (they have a couple of used 4G mouthpieces for und...
by hyperbolica
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Looking for a new mouthpiece.
Replies: 19
Views: 500

Re: Looking for a new mouthpiece.

When I was in high school, I played first a Remington, but I certainly wouldn't recommend that, then a 5g, which is good, and eventually a Schilke 51 or 52. Then in college, I experimented with a 4g and wound up on the 52e2. To start playing those sizes, you have to be doing a lot of playing, and ha...
by hyperbolica
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bass Trombone Sound?
Replies: 24
Views: 1218

Re: Bass Trombone Sound?

Yeah, for a jazz context I'd choose lighter equipment with more Bark, brighter articulation. For orchestra a little more weighty. For chamber groups more nimble with some personality.
by hyperbolica
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bass Trombone Sound?
Replies: 24
Views: 1218

Re: Bass Trombone Sound?

jazz: Max Seigel, George Roberts, Dave Taylor, Bill Reichenbach, Jeff Cortazzo

classical: Ben vanDijk, Brian Hecht, Gerry Pagano, Charlie Vernon
by hyperbolica
Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: 38h Connstellation - SOLD
Replies: 1
Views: 178

Re: FS: 38h Connstellation - SOLD

38h is SOLD
by hyperbolica
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Pull to E
Replies: 23
Views: 831

Re: Pull to E

You've got a smart phone? A tuner maybe? It's the distance between trigger 1st position and trigger 2nd position.
by hyperbolica
Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Improvised bass bone solos
Replies: 9
Views: 454

Re: Improvised bass bone solos

The Eliezer Aharoni bass bone method book has a lot of bass licks in different styles. If you've only got a few bars, then string a couple of those together for a starter, and branch out from there. Or listen to some great bari sax solos for inspiration. They are often in the same boat.
by hyperbolica
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: 38h Connstellation - SOLD
Replies: 1
Views: 178

FS: 38h Connstellation - SOLD

This is a very nice, but kinda rare Conn 500 bore from ~1954. I've seen only a couple of these on the web. This is the predecessor/cousin of the famed 48h. There was a 38h from the 20's or 30's, but this is a different horn altogether. This has built in counterweights, and a yellow brass 7.5" bell (...
by hyperbolica
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Lip Swelling?
Replies: 10
Views: 446

Re: Lip Swelling?

Be careful of salt intake, and make sure to drink lots of water. Also, don't fight the urge to pick up the instrument again and play. Sometimes when you are right on the cusp of a big improvement in chops, you might feel swollen or stiff. If you can play past that, you might find improvements in sou...
by hyperbolica
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Small Bass
Replies: 38
Views: 2659

Re: Small Bass

The experiment continues. It didn't seem to go over very well in the quartet, where they need more control, and a weighty underpinning of sound. But in a small orchestra, it's just the thing. I'm subbing in an orchestra with a good tubist, and a relatively strong brass section in general. The tuba d...
by hyperbolica
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: The Bach 50 thread
Replies: 24
Views: 1264

Re: The Bach 50 thread

My first 50 was issued to me by the Navy in the late 80s. It was probably a B2. I was a tenor player with mainly high chops, but willing to try anything. I played bass in the stage band, and tenor the rest of the time. In that situation, bass trombone meant an occasional low C, and maybe some pedal ...
by hyperbolica
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Portable Music Stand recommendations?
Replies: 37
Views: 1108

Re: Portable Music Stand recommendations?

Thanks to those who mentioned the Desca. Looks like a great idea. I love the built-in pencil tray.
by hyperbolica
Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Monthly payments for a trombone?
Replies: 14
Views: 647

Re: Monthly payments for a trombone?

Unless you're going to use it to make more money than you spend on it, I would say don't take on the debt just to get something you want. I would encourage you to get a used instrument. There are lots of great ones around, and unless you make a really bad deal, you can usually get back your money by...
by hyperbolica
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Portable Music Stand recommendations?
Replies: 37
Views: 1108

Re: Portable Music Stand recommendations?

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by hyperbolica
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages of axial flow valves
Replies: 81
Views: 2965

Re: Advantages of axial flow valves

I don't think anyone is saying you can't use a straight large bore but, almost no one wants too. Well, I play with people who use straight horns, and large bores among them. Not everybody, not all the time (except that one fellow who only has a straight large bore), but far from no one. And if you ...
by hyperbolica
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages of axial flow valves
Replies: 81
Views: 2965

Re: Advantages of axial flow valves

I have one! And I love a good 8H. Doesn't change that the use case is very limited. Your point of view is very narrow. The only place you couldn't play a straight 547 is essentially 3rd parts, and even most of those would be playable. I've got a pro buddy that all he plays is a straight 547 Yamaha,...
by hyperbolica
Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages of axial flow valves
Replies: 81
Views: 2965

Re: Advantages of axial flow valves

Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 am

That's because those horns are, well, pretty useless in the grand scheme of things.
An 8h is a glorious thing. Really. Try one on lead or second in an orchestra. Or a Holton 156. Orchestral trombone players for over a century didn't use triggers. Straight large bores are far from useless.
by hyperbolica
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Double category question
Replies: 4
Views: 282

Re: Double category question

The 6.5 is the sweet spot for 525 bore, generally. You need a deeper cup, not a bigger throat. I get nice-ish low range on my 525 with Doug Elliott 104G4. I think there's a bigger 5 shank you can get, but you're kind of in the weeds with something configured way. You can dial it in with Doug. Litera...
by hyperbolica
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages of axial flow valves
Replies: 81
Views: 2965

Re: Advantages of axial flow valves

I can see why people get seduced by axials. The first time I played a set, I was kind of blown away by how little resistance there was. But then I realized that resistance is what makes the world go round, trombonistically speaking. I prefer the horn providing the resistance rather than having to th...
by hyperbolica
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: Yamaha YBL - 622 bass trombone
Replies: 7
Views: 895

Re: Yamaha YBL - 622 bass trombone

Can you talk a little about how the horn plays, maybe in comparison to your 183 or 50b? How heavy is it in comparison? Can you compare how playing it as a double compares to playing it as a single?

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