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by ttf_sabutin
Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:10 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
Topic: The Dark Ages of Trumpet Pedagogy -- Thoughts?
Replies: 41
Views: 15679

The Dark Ages of Trumpet Pedagogy -- Thoughts?

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=96942.msg1171469#msg1171469]Quote from: TromboneMonkey on Dec 23, 2016, 09:01AM[/url]Facebook
Brad Goode
THE DARK AGES OF TRUMPET PEDAGOGY
22 minutes ago · Public
THE DARK AGES OF TRUMPET PEDAGOGY

Brad Goode

In the early days of the twentieth century, trumpets were built with high impedance. The idea behind the design of a fine instrument was that it should produce the greatest resonance with the least physical effort.
Merri Franquin was the first Professor of Trumpet at the Paris Conservatory. He was instrumental in the design of the original valved high trumpets, and many of the early virtuoso solos were composed for him. In his method book, “Complete Method for Modern Trumpet”, he advocates for the development of control and efficiency. He even suggests that the trumpet requires so little air that the player should not inhale before producing a note; the air already present in the lungs being sufficient.
Many of the great American classical performers of the early twentieth century studied and employed Franquin’s method, including George Mager, Roger Voisin and Adolph Herseth. Of course, the great French virtuosi, such as Maurice Andre and Guy Touvron acknowledge the Franquin method as the best.
American trumpet pedagogy first arose from the great cornet soloists of the Band Era, such as Jules Levy…
by ttf_sabutin
Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:07 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Wider slide or continue bending shanks?
Replies: 38
Views: 13274

Wider slide or continue bending shanks?

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=97014.msg1196785#msg1196785]Quote from: The Bone Ranger on Jun 03, 2017, 04:29AM[/url]So I had the slide rebuild done this week.

My repair guy, Bret Gustafson, did the work for me, including making the leadpipe removable. I'd heard tales that the 16M leadpipe was an odd duck, but I couldn't believe just how short it was. Here it is next to a standard Shires bass leadpipe:

[img]http://i65.tinypic.com/34o5204.jpg[/img]

Unusual indeed! I have some Shires leadpipes on the way, so I look forward to seeing how they play compared to this strange animal.

The first impression was a little puzzling. When you pick it up for the first time, it feels like you're holding a large bore tenor! It looks like someone put their Bach 50 slide on a 16! It took a moment or so to recalibrate. Initially, it was a little like picking up a tuba and having a euphonium sound come out of the bell!

The slide is also noticeably heavier than before. Not heavy, per se, but heavier. Hardly surprising, given it has almost doubled…
by ttf_sabutin
Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:46 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
Topic: Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live
Replies: 26
Views: 9801

Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=97150.msg1176175#msg1176175]Quote from: Lush slide on Jan 22, 2017, 09:04PM[/url]I am sure that Johnny Frosk is one of the trumpet players. Johnny was a New York studio stalwart in the 50's 60's and 70's, originally from Winnipeg Canada. Dorsey was always threatening to have Johnny deported back to Canada during one of their many arguments. He lasted with Dorsey for quite a long time.

Which one do you think is Frosk? Like Sonny, I never saw him when he was young. I used to play with him as often as possible. It was like taking a vibrato lesson. A wonderful player!!!

S.
by ttf_sabutin
Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
Topic: Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live
Replies: 26
Views: 9801

Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=97150.msg1174479#msg1174479]Quote from: robcat2075 on Jan 12, 2017, 10:42AM[/url]Artie Shaw [url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Oyxwe0Xz54IC&pg=PA186&dq=Artie+Shaw+%22When+you+get+into+singers%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPpYH2oL3RAhXqz1QKHXqHAOMQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=Artie%20Shaw%20%22When%20you%20get%20into%20singers%22&f=false]on Tommy Dorsey[/url]...

[img]http://www.brilliantisland.com/images/ASTD.JPG[/img]

What!!!???

Artie Shaw wasn't in show business?

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3071112/Artie%20Shaw%202.jpg[/img]

Please!!!

S.
by ttf_sabutin
Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:04 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
Topic: Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live
Replies: 26
Views: 9801

Rare Footage of Dorsey Bros Band Live

Wonderful!!!

Tommy playing live. With power!!! Most of the live stuff available, he's holding back. Not this time!!! To hell with perfection!!!

Good to hear. He is so...god-ified...70+ years after he was at work. There's the down and dirty PA Irish drinker/fighter in all of his swinging glory.

What energy!!!

S.

P.S. My guess is that the trombonist immediately to TD's right is my friend, the late, great Sonny Russo. I never saw him that young, but that's probably him.

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3071112/Sonny-Russo-HIGH-RES1.jpeg[/img]

As Sonny used to say after every performance: "How ABOUT them trombones!!!"

When Sonny first joined the band as a teenager, he made the mistake of picking up Tommy's trombone at a rehearsal and playing it when TD was out of the room. According to Sonny, when TD came back he picked up the trombone and somehow knew that someone had played it. He flipped out, demanding to know who it…
by ttf_sabutin
Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:41 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories
Topic: Best left hand support option for bass trombone
Replies: 56
Views: 225135

Best left hand support option for bass trombone

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=97404.msg1176168#msg1176168]Quote from: Blowero on Jan 22, 2017, 07:40PM[/url]Let me add to what Dan said, which I think is good. Now don't everybody get all upset, because I'm not saying you have to hold the horn this way, and I'm not saying you can't use a brace if that's what you want to do. But I think the "traditional" grip often gets a bad rap because many players aren't doing it correctly, or don't have the levers adjusted correctly to fit their hand. Here's the "traditional" grip, from Doug Yeo's website. I think it's a good illustration, even though Doug doesn't like this grip:

[img]https://www.yeodoug.com/resources/faq/faq_images/handstrain.jpg[/img]

If you use this grip correctly, you are most definitely not supporting the weight of the horn only with your pinkie. Most of the weight is borne between the fleshy pad at the base of the thumb, and the ring finger and pinkie at the other side of…
by ttf_sabutin
Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:50 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Accessories
Topic: Best left hand support option for bass trombone
Replies: 56
Views: 225135

Best left hand support option for bass trombone

These threads come up regularly. I don't remember reading what I am about to say on any of them, but here goes.

The best left hand support option for bass trombone? For any trombone, actually?

Strength training.

Really.

Light weights, high reps. Daily for as long as it takes. Not to the point of exhaustion, especially if you are going to be playing later. Include hand exercises...the spring grip kind. Also flexibility exercises.

Look into it.

It has helped me in the past. Any time I lay off of the bass trombone for a number of weeks or more I have trouble with my hand when I am doing repeated trigger exercises. The spring thing really works well on this...as usual, for me. Your results may vary.

Later...

S.

P.S. I am neither super-strong nor super-weak...just an average Joe in terms of musculature.

P.P.S. I only do this with the left hand and arm. I want my right arm to be more whip-like. Too much muscle messes with my slide technique.
by ttf_sabutin
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
Topic: Bob Reeves/Brass Ark 11C?
Replies: 45
Views: 16020

Bob Reeves/Brass Ark 11C?

I had one on trial. I liked it a great deal...an very even blow up and down and a good, full sound. However, I have several classic Bach 11Cs that I also like, and the m'pce that I play most...a unmarked Minick "11C on steroids"...although not as even as the Brass Ark version has some very specific strengths that keep me coming back to it, so I eventually decided not to buy the Brass Ark one. However...I highly recommend it. If I was rich I would have bought it just because it was such a well-designed piece.

S.

P.S. I also tried the Clarke. Another very good piece, but again...I have a NY Bach Clarke S that I love so I sent it back.

Sigh...


by ttf_sabutin
Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:20 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
Topic: Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely
Replies: 24
Views: 8485

Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98021.msg1179495#msg1179495]Quote from: TomBone4 on Feb 13, 2017, 06:35AM[/url]Yes, I do have a teacher, but we do not meet regularly.


Thanks so much for the help, I did talk to my instructor and we are going to work on the long tones and actual playing, as opposed to changing mp or horn...


Now for a slightly unrelated question...


Mr. Burtis, I see on websites with things about you that you were the original leader of the Mingus Big Band?  [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/amazed.gif[/img] [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/amazed.gif[/img] [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/amazed.gif[/img]

Did you do the crazy arrangement of Boogie Stop Shuffle that had the amazing intro with the bass and piano and then the song went crazy fast…
by ttf_sabutin
Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:51 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
Topic: Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely
Replies: 24
Views: 8485

Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98021.msg1179392#msg1179392]Quote from: TomBone4 on Feb 12, 2017, 12:58PM[/url]
Yep, but we do not practice or work together regularly...


At this point, with the suggestions for a smaller horn, I have a king 606 in alright shape, but the muscle memory for the music is too set in, especially with my mouthpiece to change.  The mp with my King is a 12c.

1-I repeat...do you have a trombone teacher who is a competent trombonist? If you don't...find one.

2-A 606 would probably be workable, but more than likely a 12C would limit you in another direction...you'd get too bright too fast in the dynamic range and be limited in the low range. So-called "muscle memory" can be reprogrammed fairly easily with inbtelligent practice. Off the top of my head...and a good trombone teacher who really knows your playing would be a much better advisor...but off the top of my head I would suggest that you look at 3 fairly common Bach sizes with that horn:

6.5A

6 3/4C

7C

If you can deal with a 48B rim you'll probably feel alright on the 6.5…
by ttf_sabutin
Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:41 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
Topic: Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely
Replies: 24
Views: 8485

Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98021.msg1179374#msg1179374]Quote from: TomBone4 on Feb 12, 2017, 11:00AM[/url]


Thanks for the links, I will take a look at them.
I am playing on a Yamaha YSL - 620 with a 48L mouthpiece.
That is very large equipment for that kind of playing, especially for a fairly young student. Part of what you call "loudness" is actually brilliance...a brightness that cuts through like a trumpet. It's hard to make that equipment play that brightly. A good, strong pro can do it, but even pros...like me...tend to use smaller, brighter-sounding equipment if possible in that kind of situation.

Do you have a trombone teacher? Like...someone who actually plays he trombone really well?

Get back to me.

S.


by ttf_sabutin
Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:34 pm
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
Topic: Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely
Replies: 24
Views: 8485

Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98021.msg1179383#msg1179383]Quote from: timothy42b on Feb 12, 2017, 12:02PM[/url]---snip--- 

(Didn't Watrous once say "if you want to hear me play loud, turn the volume knob"?) 

---snip---
Bill...and a number of other contemporary, post-amplifier trombonists...made a quite conscious decision to become essentially electronic trombonists. Why? Because it's easier to play fast, smoothly and high softly that it is to do the same thing and project. The results speak for themselves.

But...that option is not available for any number of other styles of music...orchestral styles, acoustic big band styles, pan-idiomatic freelancers, latin styles and so on. Especially for student players.

AG
by ttf_sabutin
Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:09 am
Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
Topic: Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely
Replies: 24
Views: 8485

Playing Loudly, But Still Nicely

[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98021.msg1179206#msg1179206]Quote from: TomBone4 on Feb 11, 2017, 08:53AM[/url]A problem I often have is that I am required to blast and just play explosively, yet I try, and it is the sloppiest most disgusting thing ever...   how do you play loudly and still make it musical?

If the embouchure itself is not strong...and I mean muscularly strong...then it cannot sustain the balance between the lips that is necessary for a good sound.

You write:

QuoteI am required to blast and just play explosively, yet I try, and it is the sloppiest most disgusting thing ever...
It sounds to me like your lips are being blown/overblown into the m'pce by your air. When this happens w/strong air...especially w/ a fairly large m'pce and an equally fairly resistant horn so that you don't simply run out of air..."the sloppiest most disgusting thing ever" is a pretty good description of the results.

Cures?

Sure.

1-Long tones. Lots of them, especially in the registers where this happens. I use Carmine Caruso approaches, and coincidentally I just put up a post explaining some of the basic Carmine exercises.
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  • by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:04 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
    Topic: "Letter M"
    Replies: 39
    Views: 83900

    "Letter M"

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98054.msg1203638#msg1203638]Quote from: svenlarsson on Yesterday at 07:36 AM[/url] [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/smile.gif[/img]
    It is all about balance.
    Thank you!

    I am happy to have been of help.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:32 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
    Topic: "Letter M"
    Replies: 39
    Views: 83900

    "Letter M"

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98054.msg1203626#msg1203626]Quote from: svenlarsson on Yesterday at 05:55 AM[/url]I have been practising Phil Teelys book for some time now. His advice "try to keep the "M" all the way down" All the way down means the lowest you can sound. Most of us are used the shift around form pedal E or D, me to. I have now been practising down to may be double pedal G without shift, trying to keep the "M".

    You know what!

    My "M" has changed! Not only in the low!

    Another thing that have happend ios that Sam:s "Buzz on and off" Works like a charm!
    I found the "M" that is really naturall for me. After 65 years of playing! After mor that 50 years playing proffesional!

    There are many kinds of "M". Not all works.

    I am glad to have been able to help, Svenne. It's hard to get people's serious attention with new ideas, and doubly hard when they feel they might be risking their abilities by trying something new. All I can say is...as you have done...unless you are perfectly happy with the way you play now, don't be afraid to try new things. If something doesn't…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:45 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
    Topic: "Letter M"
    Replies: 39
    Views: 83900

    "Letter M"

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98054.msg1203589#msg1203589]Quote from: Blowero on Jul 15, 2017, 05:46PM[/url]I think it was Miles Davis who said this, but I could be remembering wrong. Forming an embouchure is like trying to spit a seed out of your mouth.

    That's an old school jazz idea. Not just Miles...many jazz brass players. I have heard it attributed to Roy Eldridge, myself. It works, too.

    "M", "P", spitting a seed out of one's mouth...they all depend on the mouth in question. Thick lips/thin lips, big teeth/small teeth, big tongue/small tongue...whatever. A balance must be found...or perhaps better, a set of balances through the ranges...between the essentially non-adjustable upper lip (It can only roll, and not very far) and the incredibly adjustable (with the aid of the movable jaw) lower lip. It's all very individual.

    This is where freebuzzing can be very useful. With practice, one can freebuzz with the lower lip in any number of positions vis-á-vis the upper lip...further back, further forward, etc...through particular registers and volumes, but only a few of these positions can be put into a m'pce or playing the horn with good results through many registers and volumes.

    S.
    <…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:27 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Performance
    Topic: Body Language
    Replies: 11
    Views: 7132

    Body Language

    My take on "stage presence" is as follows:

    If you are playing the music as deeply as possible, you will automatically have a riveting stage presence.

    If you're not?

    Then you're just acting.

    Following is an image I often use for publicity:

    [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3071112/sam%20groningen%20concert%20photo-Low%20def.jpg[/img]

    Do you think I was posing?

    Acting?

    Hell no!!!

    I was playing!!!

    Did I have some sort of "stage presence?"

    Bet on it.

    Every time I see someone "acting" on stage...and that goes for the clothes they wear, their haircut, etc...when I close my eyes I can hear that they are too busy looking like they are playing to actually be playing.

    Just do your work...the stage presence will take care of itself.

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  • by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:47 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Performance
    Topic: Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?
    Replies: 154
    Views: 58727

    Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?


    QuoteTitle question: Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?

    Title answer: If they are playing the same old stuff, they are not jazz "artists."

    There are people...real artists, real creators...in NYC who have chosen to make "art"...to be truly creative...in some very old jazz idioms.
    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98488.msg1184621#msg1184621]Quote from: Pre59 on Mar 11, 2017, 07:24AM[/url]Sabutin, could clarify this?

    I am not sure. How do you mean, exactly? I'll give it a try, though.

    If someone is playing say an arrangement of a Louis Armstrong or Fletcher Henderson piece, being true to the idiom in which they were originally played and yet playing something "new"...something from their own heart, not just a bunch of cobbled-together, stolen licks...then they are making art as far as I am concerned.

    "Art" doesn't have to be new to be art. If it was, there would be no reason to play Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and all of the other grandmasters of the Western European concert tradition. Denis Brain playing the Mozart Horn Concerti or Jascha Heifetz playing anything are "art." So is the great Northern Indian musicians playing centuries-old idioms, just for one example.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:19 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Performance
    Topic: Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?
    Replies: 154
    Views: 58727

    Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?

    I have watched this thread for quite a while, hoping that someone would say something that made some real sense. Today I have given up waiting.

    Title question: Why Do Jazz Artists Always Play The Same Old Stuff?

    Title answer: If they are playing the same old stuff, they are not jazz "artists."

    End of story.

    S.
    P.S. And..if you think that they are "jazz artists"...those people who you think are truly playing the same old stuff...then you either don't understand the difference between an artist and an imitator or you have no idea what "jazz" is.

    End of postscript.

    P.P.S. Eyewitness account, early '60s: Charles Mingus in Ithaca after a concert at Cornell to a young fan from the music school at Ithaca College:

    Mingus: Do you play jazz?

    Student: Yes.

    Mingus (loudly): NO, YOU DON'T!!!

    P.P.P.S. That student...no, it wasn't me...had his life changed by that confrontation and eventually became a truly wonderful player and teacher.

    P.P.P.P.S. There are people...real artists, real creators...in NYC who have chosen to make "art"...to be truly creative...in some very old jazz idioms. There are…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:47 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Beginners and Returning Trombonists
    Topic: Advice on Hitting High Notes?
    Replies: 238
    Views: 563774

    Advice on Hitting High Notes?

    Advice on hitting high notes?

    Sure.

    1-Learn to play the notes below them really well...with a good sound and no big shifts.

    2-Then gradually connect that range with the ranges above it.

    3-Then learn how to play higher that the desired "high notes" and connect down from there.

    You did exactly the same thing as a beginner. Remember? When a 4th partial Bb or a fifth partial D was a "high note?"

    Then they became easier and 7th partial G was a "high note."

    Etcetera.

    Same process, right on up.

    Good support, good air and good practice.

    Daily!

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:23 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
    Topic: A question about teachers in Guatemala City.
    Replies: 3
    Views: 22194

    A question about teachers in Guatemala City.

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=98737.msg1186696#msg1186696]Quote from: jonathanwettermark on Mar 25, 2017, 01:29PM[/url]I have meet a conductor named Bruno Campo that is from Guatemala City. He started up El Sistema in Guatemala and I can assume he has a lot of contacts. He is now living in Graz and is working with Superar (a el Sistema inspired orginazation) in Vienna. Could be worth sending him a question on Facebook!

    Thank you. I will get in touch with him.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:01 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Pedagogy
    Topic: A question about teachers in Guatemala City.
    Replies: 3
    Views: 22194

    A question about teachers in Guatemala City.

    I have been correwsponding with a really talented young trombonist who lives in Guatemala City. He has taught himself to play very well as far as he can go, but he needs help to go further and doesn't know where to turn or what to do.

    Does anyone here have anny good contacts in that area as far as brass teachers are concerned?

    Get back to me, please.

    Thanks...

    Sam
    by ttf_sabutin
    Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:54 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns
    Replies: 49
    Views: 166239

    Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99042.msg1200717#msg1200717]Quote from: Geezerhorn on Jun 27, 2017, 02:20PM[/url]I'm listening to Al Grey on YouTube right now and I have to wonder if he is on a large-bore horn. His sound (with or sans plunger) was huge!

    ...Geezer

    Conn 6H, I believe a 7C m'pce. "Huge" is too small a word. he could cover he enire Basie band with no mike.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun May 07, 2017 10:41 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns
    Replies: 49
    Views: 166239

    Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99042.msg1192809#msg1192809]Quote from: Geezerhorn on Today at 07:56 AM[/url]THAT is very inspiring, Sam. I don't know how you came to know this, but I believe you.

    Funny thing is, even growing up 3 miles away from his birthplace - I never heard of him until I picked up an album. He was the best-kept local secret. There should be a "Slide Hampton Day" in Jeannette, Pennsylvania!

    I hope he is okay. I think maybe he is retired now. Last time I heard him, he was playing jazz on a large-bore horn and sounding utterly fabulous. It can be done. But I believe it takes a Slide Hampton or the like to pull it off!

    ...Geezer

    It's common knowledge among NYC trombonists. I was never really close to Slide...our paths just didn't cross much...but many friends of mine have told me stories about going to his apartment or house fairly early early in the day and finding him hard at work on the horn. They'd take a lesson, play some duets...whatever...and when they left he'd be right back on the axe.

    Inspiring.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun May 07, 2017 7:22 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns
    Replies: 49
    Views: 166239

    Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99042.msg1192799#msg1192799]Quote from: Geezerhorn on Today at 07:12 AM[/url]Look at the size of those chops! I'm envious! I gotta wonder what size and config mpc he was using at that time. He certainly never lacked for either high range or technique!

    Story goes that he played left-handed b/c that's how his first trombone was handed to him. Lol

    That's a very interesting connection you have made!

    ...Geezer

    You also need to remember that in his prime, Slide was a fierce practicer. Marathon practice sessions, every day that he was home.

    Marathon!!!

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun May 07, 2017 7:19 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns
    Replies: 49
    Views: 166239

    Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99042.msg1192795#msg1192795]Quote from: Arrowhead99 on Today at 06:45 AM[/url]
    The connection seems to be higher education= large bore. Free lance/Jazz musician= small bore.


    That's not very far off, Arrowhead.

    A couple of comments:

    Very few high-level universities and conservatories have a dedicated small bore player on their faculty anymore, and very few large bore-playing faculty seem to understand the acoustic, stylistic and endurance advantages of smaller equipment in the workaday world. Students are "encouraged"...in Emory Remington's case, absolutely required...to play a large bore tenor if they are going to have success in their academic career, and the result is that many college-level large jazz ensembles...and even worse, high school ensembles...have a trombone section that sounds like a euphonium section and/or a herd of elephants in the classic jazz repertoire. They are using a large hammer for work that would be better done with a sharp knife.

    But...as almost always, the academic scene is way behind the working scene.

    About the "Freelance/Jazz musician = small bore" thing? I think it is rapidly becoming Freelance/Jazz musician = using the right horn for the job." It certainly is in NYC, and I…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:55 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns
    Replies: 49
    Views: 166239

    Jazz trombonists that play on larger horns

    I often play on a .525 bore/8.5" bell trigger Shires w/a larger than 6.5AL m'pce if I know I'm not going to need to play much lead. I have it set up to be fairly dark and it's just too much work to brighten it up sufficiently to cut through most NYC large ensembles. I love the way it plays and sounds. The extra strength in the lower registers...plus being able to avoid much 6th/7th position playing down there...gives me almost another whole octave to use as a soloist compared to smaller horns/m'pces. I especially like it in 3 or 4 horn jazz groups. The sound it gets in unison w/a good tenor player is enormous!!!

    The earliest prominent jazz trombonist that I know to play larger equipment was Jimmy Knepper on his Bach 42 bell/36 slide/6.5AL m'pce. A glorious sound!!! After him? Curtis Fuller on an Olds Opera, I believe. Or was it a big Holton? I forget. Then Slide Hampton, then all of the people mentioned above.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:38 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Tommy Dorsey
    Replies: 10
    Views: 4532

    Tommy Dorsey

    Notice something...

    When Dorsey plays that unaccompanied long set of phrases in his own style, his time is absolutely impeccable. But when he plays the 'corny" stuff later, he's
    all over the place.

    Just sayin'...if you really hear what you are playing...from the soul, from the mind and body...your time is going to be fine. If not? Well...we all need to work, right?

    Whenever I hear people tell their students to "work on their time," I want to step in and say "Work on your musicality...with no artificial timekeepers, just you and your horn...and your time will develop accordingly.

    Just sayin'...

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:30 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
    Topic: How does a Bach 7c compare to a Bach 6 1/2 AL?
    Replies: 16
    Views: 12664

    How does a Bach 7c compare to a Bach 6 1/2 AL?

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99342.msg1189435#msg1189435]Quote from: crazytrombonist505 on Apr 14, 2017, 06:49AM[/url]Hey everyone,
    How does a Bach 7c compare to a small shank Bach 6 1/2 AL? In what ways does it feel different from a 6 1/2 AL? I currently use a 6 1/2 AL as my main tenor mouthpiece, and I'm wondering about maybe trying a 7c. Any feedback would be much appreciated!

    Thanks,
    Zach

    A 7C is decidedly brighter than a 6.5AL...stronger, more pronounced attacks; gets brighter...to the point of nastiness on many lightweight horns...earlier in the dynamic range, easier high range, less good sound down through the 2nd + 3rd partial, not as flexible, smaller diameter rim, more resistant (smaller throat), harder to articulate rapidly at volume (Backs up for many people.) and many 7Cs seem to have a harder bite on the inside of the rim than other Bachs...

    If you are switching to a smaller m'pce, like your general sound and playing on a 6.5AL but you're having endurance and control problems it the upper register...welcome to the club. Many of my contemporaries came to NYC playing 6.5ALs and switched to 6.5As, myself included. Try one. Also try a 6 3/4C. If they are…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:23 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Lesson with Jay Friedman: a summary
    Replies: 19
    Views: 71645

    Lesson with Jay Friedman: a summary

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99358.msg1189806#msg1189806]Quote from: blast on Apr 17, 2017, 03:29AM[/url]But the 'centre' is not in the middle of possibilities... it is towards the top. Sounds odd, I know, so centre is not the best word.... most vibrant pitch ??

    Chris Stearn

    I agree.

    As some of you may know, I have done a great deal of experimentation with vocally isolating partials while singing the desired note into the horn with an at least partially pre-set up embouchure. What I have found...always bearing in mind that much of my own work is predicated on getting a brilliant yet pleasing sound in the upper registers...is that in the middle ranges of the tenor trombone...say from around Bb3 through F4 (4th partial Bb to 6th partial F)...if I vocally isolate the third or perhaps 4th partial above those notes (the  partials that sound somewhere in the area just above the treble clef) and then let the pre-formed embouchure close and resonate, I get a gloriously brilliant and full sound on the horn.

    I am still working on how to transfer that setting...embouchure/tongue positions, oral cavity setting, etc...to above and below those ranges, but it is most definitely a higher pitch than when I do not do it…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:46 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
    Topic: Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument
    Replies: 11
    Views: 5307

    Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99367.msg1189831#msg1189831]Quote from: BostonChops on Apr 17, 2017, 07:57AM[/url]
    ---snip---

    I'm certainly not a Gary Valente type of player.
    That's OK...neither is anyone else that I've ever heard.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:34 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
    Topic: Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument
    Replies: 11
    Views: 5307

    Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99367.msg1189656#msg1189656]Quote from: BostonChops on Apr 15, 2017, 05:19PM[/url]It's a 2B from the early 50s. It had a shortened tuning slide receiver, inner slide and leadpipe replacement before I got hold of it, so it might be the horn. I also recently acquired a late 60s 79h that plays very well with the T1, so I doubt that it's purely the mouthpiece not working with my face.

    I recently took a complete break from playing of almost 5 years, having played only intermittently for a year or two before that. Currently working to get my chops back, but it's tough with a lack of time and unfamiliar instruments.


    It's probably the 2B. Messing w/classic designs is a crapshoot at best.

    And...the Stork T1 is a 6.5-ish m'pce. A little tighter at the throat than a small shank Bach 6.5AL, I believe, more like a 6.5A. I only know of one fine trombonist who plays a m'pce that big on a 2B and gets good results on it...Gary Valente, who is unlike any other trombonist in the world. However, the 78H/79H horns were played by many fine trombonists with 6.5-ish m'pces. The small shank 6.5AL…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:52 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
    Topic: Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument
    Replies: 11
    Views: 5307

    Intonation and mouthpiece size for small bore instrument

    Different m'pces lock up better with:

    !-Different trombone models

    2-Different embouchures

    and the always popular...

    3-Different combinations of m'pce and embouchure

    Plus...some horns are just out of tune.

    Try some other m'pces.

    What horn are you playing?

    S.


    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:57 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Musical Miscellany
    Topic: Alaska Airline - safe for horn?
    Replies: 8
    Views: 4362

    Alaska Airline - safe for horn?

    I have flown on Alaska twice....4 flights round trip each time. In my opinion it is the best-run U.S. airline on which I have ever flown, and the flight attendants/gate people were incredibly helpful with my big, ugly SKB Universal case. I was allowed early boarding on all 8 separate flights, and when on one of them the case didn't fit in the overhead they made room for it in the closet. No bad vibes, just friendly, competent service.

    Try them. You'll be as surprised as was I.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:48 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Where do you play high D?
    Replies: 26
    Views: 8258

    Where do you play high D?

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99393.msg1189780#msg1189780]Quote from: ALT on Apr 16, 2017, 06:57PM[/url]Out of curiosity, how far is "quite a bit" for you?

    I use my right thumb as a sort of bumper. About 1/2".

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:50 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Where do you play high D?
    Replies: 26
    Views: 8258

    Where do you play high D?

    I tune my horns so that 4th partial Bb is in tune quite a bit off of the bumpers,thus making...theoretically... 10th partial D tunable by pulling it in.

    But I still generally prefer it in #3rd/11th partial.

    Why?

    Among other reasons, because it often resolves up to Eb and Eb in 11th partial/#2nd is by far the most reliable high Eb on every horn I've ever played.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:43 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Mouthpiece
    Replies: 8
    Views: 3471

    Mouthpiece

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99471.msg1190377#msg1190377]Quote from: Doug Elliott on Apr 20, 2017, 05:42PM[/url]This is a very typical situation.  You need the 4G rim size but the 5G cup gives you the sound you want.

    There are mouthpieces available (including mine) that give you a more favorable combination of rim and cup.



    What Doug said, too.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:42 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Mouthpiece
    Replies: 8
    Views: 3471

    Mouthpiece

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99471.msg1190367#msg1190367]Quote from: TromboneMonkey on Apr 20, 2017, 03:53PM[/url]Take them on a gig or rehearsal. Proof is in the pudding, as they say.

    What TM said.

    Do blindfold tests. Put them both in your pocket and alternate them. (Don't peek if you can possibly help it.)

    Use the one that makes you feel like playing.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:55 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Developing centred notes
    Replies: 43
    Views: 26378

    Developing centred notes

    Q: How to develop centered notes.

    A: Long tones.

    The classic Carmine Caruso Six Notes exercises are aimed at precisely this "centering" idea.  There are really six versions of the Six Notes in Carmine's approach...I have many more, myself...and it is very important that players do them pretty much as he taught them to get their full benefit. I have written about them numerous times, but I no longer think that any way other than aural example...preferably live...or personally coached practice can really get them to the point that they are doing really good things for most players. I have taught them...oh, hundreds and hundreds of times, I suppose...and I am still amazed at how such a seemingly simple exercise can be played badly in so many ways, even by very fine players. It's like there's nowhere to hide. After the initial attacks of each of the first two notes the tongue has nothing left to do but function as an air aiming device, and that completely baffles most students. They have no idea of what the tongue is doing, and when the third "breath" attack is required...the real secret of this exercise, in my opinion...they simply cannot stop using the tongue. They don't even know that they are doing it. It's as if they have no control over the tip of their own tongue. Once they get it…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Tue May 16, 2017 7:35 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Volume vs phrasing
    Replies: 28
    Views: 11705

    Volume vs phrasing

    A teaching story from the annals of Urbie Green. (I am not the trombonist in the following story, but I trust him completely.):

    A young trombonist in NYC got a chance to play a recording session in a 4 trombone section w/Urbie Green at his prime playing lead. He was didn't want to say much just because...well, it was Urbie Green!!!...and Urbie was notoriously silent in terms of giving directions to his section mates. However, at some point in the session the new guy was having trouble playing a phrase...he was playing 3rd...without taking a breath somewhere in the middle. He finally asked Urbie what to do and Urbie answered with a phrase for the ages:

    "Well...I believe that we all should breathe wherever we have to."

    Like dat.

    We are all different physically. We all play instruments with differing overall resistances and quite often we are all playing in different registers, often with other instruments that themselves have overall different breathing necessities. I learned long ago as a tuba player that sniff breaths...through the nose... were immensely valuable when playing bass parts like those in rapid Sousa marches, and I use them to this day when I'm trying to get a real emergency breath or two or three in a phrase. I also play much more open-blowing horns than most American-style trombonists…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu May 04, 2017 6:31 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Hesitation on initial attack
    Replies: 14
    Views: 6496

    Hesitation on initial attack

    A timing issue, almost every time. Generally speaking, I use straight Carmine Caruso exercises to help this very common problem, especially the Six Notes. However...if you do not do them totally correctly, they won't help much. It's hard to learn how to do them w/out live aural guidance.

    Try this version of what kbiggs suggests above:

    1-Turn off the metronome and replace it with your own foot, tapped at a relatively slow tempo in 4/4...somewhere between MM=60 to 80...while mentally subdividing 16th notes in your head.

    1-Put your horn at one of its normal rest positions. While continuing to tap your foot, raise the horn towards your chops while:

       a-taking a normal playing breath
       b-forming the embouchure for your most reliable midrange note
       c-getting the right fingering for the desired note (it often helps if you have first sung the note or heard it on a keyboard or tuner), including on your
         horn the correct right hand position
       d-setting your support system for the note
       e-next to last but not least, raising your tongue to the desired attack position
       and finally
       f-dropping your tongue to start the note at exactly the right moment.

    Sounds kinda...complicated...doesn't it.

    Well...it is complicated. But…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu May 04, 2017 7:55 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Instruments
    Topic: Small bore horns: light or heavy. Which do you prefer?
    Replies: 28
    Views: 11241

    Small bore horns: light or heavy. Which do you prefer?

    Very roughly speaking:

    Light = brighter

    Heavy = darker

    You choose for the dynamic range(s) in which you play and the timbral effects that you wish to get.

    Also very roughly speaking:

    Light = less effortful

    Heavy = more effortful

    and

    Light = quicker (response and slide technique)

    Heavy = slower (ditto)

    I generally have chosen slightly heavier horns myself because I am now primarily an acoustic player...preferably very little or no miking...in very strong large ensembles and smaller jazz groups. Light horns tend to yap like dogs at high volumes. Not my style. But...when I played mostly recording stuff I went lighter. Still not super-light though, I guess because I started out as a tubist plus I have the sounds of J.J Johnson, Jimmy Knepper, and Jack Teagarden imprinted on my soul. I sometimes envy the good lightweight players, especially when I see how easy it is for hem to play lead and cut through in big bands.

    So it goes.

    Y'pays yer money and y'takes yer chances.

    You choose!!!

    Later...

    S.

    P.S. Larger instruments that are relatively light...especially…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Tue May 16, 2017 8:25 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Fast Mute Change (Rocky Point Holiday)
    Replies: 22
    Views: 8518

    Fast Mute Change (Rocky Point Holiday)

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99951.msg1193840#msg1193840]Quote from: LowrBrass on May 15, 2017, 08:01PM[/url]
    ---snip---


    Here's another idea I use a lot:
    Talk to your section/ your director.
    Consider not using mutes,
    or doing the change in a more convenient part of the song,
    or collectively skipping a couple unimportant notes to get an extra fraction of a second for the change.
    It'll look less terrifying to the audience, and probably sound better too.
    It may not be what the composer envisioned, but the composer shouldn't have been an idiot.
    Did the composer want me to mangle my instrument in a botched mute change? Screw that.
    (I know you've already worked this out, but I don't think it's an unreasonable actual solution.)

    Yes.

    I often point out...sometimes at the risk of my job...that a mute change is simply not possible. I know all the tricks, but many so-called "orchestrators" today simply have no experience with human beings playing real instruments.

    Ditto many conductors. They have taught to be be autocrats and that's the end of the story for them.

    So it goes…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sat May 20, 2017 11:47 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Town Hall / Notices from TTF Members
    Topic: Sam Burtis in Mohegan Lake area, Thurs., May 25, 9AM and later.
    Replies: 1
    Views: 1364

    Sam Burtis in Mohegan Lake area, Thurs., May 25, 9AM and later.

    Hello folks...

    Just on the off chance that someone wants to take or lesson or even just hang out, I'm going to be in that area having some work done on my car, and rather than trek back to the Bronx on the train and then trek back again I'm going to wait at the shop...Mohegan Lake VW. If nobody's interested I'll work on my laptop or something for the requisite number of hours...looks like 3 or 4.

    Whatever...

    Get in touch.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon May 22, 2017 12:53 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
    Topic: Loosening Up The Slots
    Replies: 14
    Views: 5206

    Loosening Up The Slots

    Yes. Looser slots come from lessened resistance...that's why I play the Shires #3 leadpipes on all of my sub-.547 horns. You have already expeienced the "looseness" of the 11C/6.5-ish Bach twins...it's no coincidence that the two loosest-slotting soloists w/whom I ever played...Bill Watrous and Jimmy Knepper...respectively played an 11C and a 6.5AL. The problem with leadpipes is that they are so damned complicated and expensive to try except at shops or factories where they have a lot of them. And then if you change m'pces? There you are, wondering if the leadpipe you have is right.

    Have fun... [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/horror.gif[/img] [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/horror.gif[/img] [img]http://tromboneforum.org/Smileys/otjf/horror.gif[/img]

    S.

    P.S. It is too bad that Chuck McAlexander has closed up shop. He had 20-30 or more to try for every common bore horn, ones…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon May 29, 2017 12:21 pm
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Horns, Gear, and Equipment / Mouthpieces
    Topic: Looking for a mouthpiece that is a little bigger than a 6 1/2AL...
    Replies: 12
    Views: 5412

    Looking for a mouthpiece that is a little bigger than a 6 1/2AL...

    Also, the the Brass Ark Clarke m'pce. Similar in many ways to a 6.5AL, but...as you request...just little bit larger.

    Good design. Based on the Bach NY Clarke S m'pce...the precursor to the 6.5AL.

    S.
    by ttf_sabutin
    Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:17 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Composition, Arranging, and Theory
    Topic: A Musing on Modes
    Replies: 5
    Views: 21304

    A Musing on Modes

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=100269.msg1196089#msg1196089]Quote from: Andrew Meronek on May 29, 2017, 10:38AM[/url]Here's a link to my blog post:

    [url=https://andrewmeronek.com/music-tools/a-musing-on-modes/]https://andrewmeronek.com/music-tools/a-musing-on-modes/[/url]

    An exerpt:

    Tuning in ensembles is something that we, as trombonists, do notice pretty clearly given the direct way that we can adjust our slide positions to tune compared to other instruments. From my experience, it can be pretty cool and useful to know when the educational conventions we learned in school (like relative modes) work and when they don't work as well as we want them to.

    I'm wondering what you all think.

    I think that those conventions can be fairly well ignored by a slide trombonist or other non-fixed pitch musician like a singer or string player. The act of making music...even the simplest music...is too complex for us to be able to accurately "think" through the various tuning conventions for each note in a performance. Play it where you hear it and use to slide to play that pitch on the center of the horn. End…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:48 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Flexibility Advice: a change in mouthpiece?
    Replies: 41
    Views: 12943

    Flexibility Advice: a change in mouthpiece?

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=100293.msg1197090#msg1197090]Quote from: harrison.t.reed on Jun 05, 2017, 08:08AM[/url]Now there we go! This ^. On the surface of it, if you just slice any one of Waltrous' notes in half and look at what's inside, I feel like I don't really like the tone or the sound. I think Waltrous is definitely a player who relies on the microphone, and he has mastered microphone technique. I had heard about a masterclass he gave where an auditor asked him "How come you play with such a tiny sound that you need the mic inside your bell?", and he answered something like "How come you don't sell tons of records like I do every year?"

    Taken as a whole, however, with his musical expression and ideas while improvising, Waltrous is fantastic -- it doesn't matter that he doesn't come close to JJ's sound. Waltrous sounds like Waltrous, and that's a great thing. I wish I had what was in his head, but my improv chops are a huge joke.

    And he is flexible! You make a good point about that one. I have no idea how his flexibility relates to his air stream.

    I played a great deal w/Bill in his NYC Wildlife Refuge band. I think…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:32 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Teaching & Learning / Practice Room
    Topic: Flexibility Advice: a change in mouthpiece?
    Replies: 41
    Views: 12943

    Flexibility Advice: a change in mouthpiece?

    [url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=100293.msg1196465#msg1196465]Quote from: weezerfan4427 on May 31, 2017, 06:24PM[/url]Hello! I am in need of some feedback regarding flexibility. As I have dedicated this summer's practicing to honing my flexibility/lips slurs around the trombone, I have noticed that I am having continued difficulty ironing out some of the "blips" when moving from the 4th to 6th partials (Bb - F). No matter how slowly and patiently I take it, I seem to have some small bumps when moving up and down through the registers. I am curious if this simply requires more work and time, or if a change in mouthpiece would facilitate my progress.

    I currently play on a GB 4GS, which is the rim size of a 4G but cup size of a 5G. I recently moved up to this size from a GB 5G. In doing some experimenting, I did notice that the lip slurs seemed smoother when I played on my Bach 5G that I have, which is why I am curious to hear other's opinions regarding a mouthpiece change. Would this be advisable?

    If so, what are recommendations for a change? I am looking for something around the size of a 4, but I really enjoy the tone production and rim comfort of the Greg Black mouthpieces. I have heard some good…
    by ttf_sabutin
    Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:49 am
    Forum: TTF Archives / TTF Archives / Creation and Performance / Trombonists
    Topic: Barry Rogers
    Replies: 17
    Views: 34199

    Barry Rogers

    Ditto all of the above, but...maybe his most important characteristic was his "arranger/music director/organizer" side. Every band he was in got better the moment that he joined. It wasn't necessarily that he was hired for and/or took on the music director job, it was just that he was so organized, perceptive and clear in his actions and statements that a sloppy band sudden;y became a cleaner one without losing any passion or fire.

    For example...for many years he carried a piano tuning wrench with him. If a piano was out of tune in a cub (this predates the electric piano takeover)...as were many in less expensive Nuyorican dance venues at the time... he'd do quick fixes to make it play more in tune. An in tune band is a better band, right out front.

    Stuff like that.

    He was a giver. He was all about the music, all the time.

    S.