Single valve bass trombone choices.

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Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by tctb » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:11 am

Hi , I need a single valve bass trombone for occasional doubling . I am looking at a Yamaha 421G and a JP Rath 233 for about half the price .Is the Yamaha worth the extra as a long term proposition ?
If I had known trombones were this much fun , I would have got one sooner! :cool:
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by pompatus » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:18 am

There's a Yamaha 322R listed here on the classifieds that looks to be in good shape. Check it out!

Here's a link:

https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5865
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by tctb » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:00 am

Thanks Pompatus , I would prefer one that I can try first and I am unfortunately not in the same country as the seller.
If I had known trombones were this much fun , I would have got one sooner! :cool:
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by islander » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:27 pm

I have a JP 233 as my backup single plug bass. It's very good. A bit shoutier than my R8, and the valve action not quite as snappy as the Rotax R8. But it's very good. My only complaint is that it doesn't pull to E.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by sirisobhakya » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:29 pm

421G would hold its price well. But a used 321 or 322 is even cheaper, and quite easy to find too. Just watch carefully for the chrome plating loss on the inner slide.

As a ridiculous suggestion, if you are willing to an extra (BIG extra) cash I would recommend YBL-822G and remove that second removable valve :D
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by Trav1s » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:16 pm

I'd say a Conn 72H would be a horn to consider if one presented itself. Can't speak to the two horns in the original post directly either.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by Savio » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:37 pm

I don't really know all the yamaha or Rath, but they should be good. I know the Conn trombones and they are good, if you find some that are in good condition. For doubling I think it's best to find one that is easy to play, best to try first? I'm not sure.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by mrdeacon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:25 am

You're severely limiting yourself by trying before you buy. If you buy a quality instrument like a Bach, Yamaha, Conn, Holton or Kanstul; you won't have to worry about getting a lemon because chances are the instrument is good.

Look into getting a vintage Conn 72H, 71H or Bach 50B. You can get them for under $1000 and they play better than even some modern horns.

I have never purchased a "new" instrument and I have only purchased one of my horns in person. Everything else I purchased off the internet without having tried the horn. If you're smart and looking for a reliable seller and purchase I horn that hasn't been too used and abused, you should have a horn that'll last you the rest of your life.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by GeeSamYouWell » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:44 am

The Holton 183's from the 70's are great. Mine is the easiest to play of any horn I've tried, small or large. Great if you can find one.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by bwilliams » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:23 am

Conn 110 H. Highly recommended.
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by gbedinger » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:27 am

GeeSamYouWell wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:44 am
The Holton 183's from the 70's are great. Mine is the easiest to play of any horn I've tried, small or large. Great if you can find one.
Same here. I also had a 183 from this era and although I didn't know it at the time, it was the most playable horn I've ever had. I also sold it, alas...
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Re: Single valve bass trombone choices.

Post by imsevimse » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:11 pm

The Yamaha model 321 and 322 can be found at a good price. If you want a cheap single you should definitely look out for one of those.

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