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Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:43 am
by johnnymack
Does any have an opinion on the Yam 3530R Trombones?
Is it similar to the 356G( 500/525) minus the Fattach?
I had a 356G years ago. IT played well especially after I removed the leadpipe.
I have seen them listed on the OLD TTF.
What are your thoughts.
I am also looking for a Yamaha Complete Trombone Model List Page.
This features Current and Discontinued models.
Thanks, John

Re: Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:27 am
by greenbean

Re: Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 am
by brtnats
I haven't tried the 3530R, but I did play a 356R for a few months last summer, which is the same horn without an F attachment. There are some differences between the 356R and 356G (really that whole series) that I think ended up making the 356G heavier and a little more dull. I really liked the 356R, and it worked everywhere I brought it. I ultimately sold it in favor of a straight horn (891Z), because I didn't want the attachment. If there had been a viable 3530R, I'd probably have bought it instead. I didn't consider the 455G an option, since it's not easily available domestically.

Personally, I really wish these options were more readily available. An 8-inch bell with a .500/.525 dual bore slide is such a versatile instrument. Likely even more so with a 7.5 or 7.75 inch bell, like the old Conn 32H. The 356R I had could fit into just about any ensemble as a tenor trombone. The 345Gs I've played were a little duller, a little harder to color. I think Yamaha steering the instrument towards the intermediate market meant a heavier, harder slide, ditto bell, and the switch to gold brass, made these instruments solid, but less interesting. I think the tendency to call Yamaha instruments "dull" comes from this bulking up of the student and intermediate lines.

Matt

Re: Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:19 am
by Matt K
I have a 356 that I picked up not too long ago but it isn't exactly what is described on the Yamaha's documentation. I can't remember off the top of my head if it's a G or an R but it's the one that is supposed to have a nickel slide, but it's all yellow brass. Still plays very nicely although I'd prefer a little more nickel throughout. On paper, the 356R is like, the ideal horn for me at my current mindset. Very flexible but still can get a darker sound than a straight smallbore - or at least that's been my experience.

I also played it with a 32H slide and it projected like nobody's business. Working on getting a 32H replica pipe from Noah to put in my current slide because of that.

Re: Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:27 pm
by imsevimse
brtnats wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 am I haven't tried the 3530R, but I did play a 356R for a few months last summer, which is the same horn without an F attachment.
My Yamaha 356R has a valve.

/Tom

Re: Yamaha 3530 R 500/525 bore

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:48 pm
by brtnats
imsevimse wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:27 pm
brtnats wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 am I haven't tried the 3530R, but I did play a 356R for a few months last summer, which is the same horn without an F attachment.
My Yamaha 356R has a valve.

/Tom
You’re absolutely correct; that was supposed to read “same horn with an F attachment.” iPad apparently autocorrected.