Rare orchestral works with great trombone solos

[ttf_Le.Tromboniste]

Quote from: robcat2075 on Mar 06, 2017, 01:18PMI've never heard that before either.  Apparently that is from Mozart's first "opera" of a sort, composed at age 11.

Certainly an unusual tactic.

Or was it?  Were trombone/vocal duets a thing at the time? Or was it just some crazy 11-year-old thing to do?


Arie with obbligato trombone were quite common in 18th century Austria. Mozart was certainly inspired by a lot of precedent. There is a great article by Stewart Carter in one of the early Historic Brass Society Journal (1990 or 1991 I believe). He already lists quite a few examples between the mid 1600's and mid 1700's, and that's 27 years ago, and limited only to Vienna...There are others beyond the time period he explored and from other locations (including Salzburg, where Mozart grew up, as you probably know).

If we're going to include those oratorios and operas with trombone obbligato arie, then we should probably also include the works by L.Mozart and M.Haydn with solo trombone movements. But I don't know to what extent one can reasonably consider all of these as ''orchestral'' works.

[ttf_Le.Tromboniste]

Don't know if it qualifies since it is an arrangement, but Lorin Maazel's arrangement of Wagner' tetralogy Der Ring ohne Worte has the 1st trombone playing a few vocal solos, some very short ones, and one long solo from Das Rheingold, ''Heda! Hedo!'' when Donner summons the clouds and strikes the ground with his hammer to deploy the bridge to Walhalla.

https://youtu.be/czDDZnWKbsc?t=10m54s


Some things that have been mentioned are not orchestral works by any standard. The Milhaud for example, is for a seventeen instrument ensemble. If we're gonna go there, we'd have to include every last piece of 20th and 21st century music for medium to large-sized mixed ensemble that includes a trombone, and we're not out of the woods....

[ttf_Bcschipper]

Again, many thanks for suggestions and corrections. Here is an updated list (incl. Wagner/Maazels Ring ohne Worte and Dvorak's Karneval Overture)

Adams, City Noir https://youtu.be/l6137doeimU

Malcolm Arnold's Tam O'Shanter Overture https://youtu.be/ceWSd1-udgM

H. Berlioz, Symphonie Funubre Et Triomphale, 2nd movement https://youtu.be/BEcSQ8BTlPQ?t=17m34s

P. Creston Toccata Op. 68 https://youtu.be/NYs3aqSHSRg?t=45s

A. Dvorak, Carneval Overture https://youtu.be/HWloCWTiQDg?t=30s

Goliov "Azul" https://youtu.be/RgCA8zTeFOQ

H.K. Gruber - Frankenstein https://youtu.be/wiqpJekng_4?t=1m40s

P. Hindemith Nobilissima Visione (the Ballet NOT the suite) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-pLs_RwP0c

P. Hindemith Concert Music for Strings and Brass https://youtu.be/U3f_-rJQ_Os?t=12m53s

Leos Janacek Sinfonietta https://youtu.be/NCXRqgXiARA?t=10m45s

Mahler or Brucker or Krzyzanowski or Guersching Symphonisches Praeludium https://youtu.be/JiRdgFLEn8M

Milhaud Le Creation du monde https://youtu.be/DB8e_V_4b2s?t=13s

W.A. Mozart Aria "Jener Donnerworte Kraft" in "Die Schuldigkeit des Ersten Gebotes" KV 35 https://youtu.be/ju7B6tq6n4w or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tjuayrR5s

Andrey Petrov The Creation of the World,Suite No.1 https://youtu.be/Zbwol3zc4D8?t=924

Respighi, Roman Festivals, last movement (not very lesser-known) https://youtu.be/bIMAicXgZP4

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov - Russian Easter Festival Overture Opus 36 https://youtu.be/j4CX4qxnA98

D. Shostakovich, The Bolt (bass trombone) https://youtu.be/IcDL8wauKc0

D. Shostakovich - 4th Symphony https://youtu.be/9MjPsYs6b8k

D. Shostakovich - 12th Symphony https://youtu.be/K_IGkwov3EM

D. Shostakovich - 15th Symphony https://youtu.be/N0iZGMXpquQ?t=15m8s

J. Sibelius 7. Symphony https://youtu.be/ZOfUYtSXaXI

R. Strauss "Die Frau ohne Schatten" Symphonic Fantasy https://youtu.be/CnePcliodSo?t=9m12s

I. Stravinsky, Agon (Ballet) https://youtu.be/CoW3-YcjHsY

Abroise Thomas' Hamlet https://youtu.be/P70KBHeDw7U?t=29m19s

Verdi Overture Nabucco https://youtu.be/hIyZNJKu1ik

R. Wagner / L. Maazel Ring ohne Worte https://youtu.be/czDDZnWKbsc?t=10m54s

Kurt Weill - 2nd Symphony https://youtu.be/jLKcIHZYPew

[ttf_Bcschipper]

Quote from: Le.Tromboniste on Mar 24, 2017, 03:24PM
Arie with obbligato trombone were quite common in 18th century Austria. Mozart was certainly inspired by a lot of precedent. There is a great article by Stewart Carter in one of the early Historic Brass Society Journal (1990 or 1991 I believe). He already lists quite a few examples between the mid 1600's and mid 1700's, and that's 27 years ago, and limited only to Vienna...There are others beyond the time period he explored and from other locations (including Salzburg, where Mozart grew up, as you probably know).


Many thanks for the reference. This is very interesting. Here is the link to
Carter, Stewart (1990). Trombone Obbligatos in Viennese Oratorios of the Baroque, Historic Brass Society Journal, Vol. 2, Issue 1, 52-77, Permanent URL of PDF: http://dx.doi.org/10.2153/0119900011002

[ttf_djdekok]

Quote from: sonicsilver on Nov 28, 2016, 12:04PMQuick! Get the lid back on that can of worms!

Shostakovich's 4th and 12th Symphonies don't get played much and have trombone solos.

Malcolm Arnold's Tam O'Shanter Overture is a really good trombone feature.


We're doing Shostakovich 12 next season

[ttf_djdekok]

Quote from: sonicsilver on Nov 28, 2016, 12:04PMQuick! Get the lid back on that can of worms!

Shostakovich's 4th and 12th Symphonies don't get played much and have trombone solos.

Malcolm Arnold's Tam O'Shanter Overture is a really good trombone feature.


We're doing Shostakovich 12 next season