Differences between Benge 190f & 165f

[norbie2018]

Was it more than the valve wrap?

[imsevimse]

I have a 190C. The C is because it has a removable open wrap f-valve. I do not think there are any 165C- models.

I have not heard of any other difference than the 190 has an open wrap and the 165 don't. I'm also interested. What about the valve?

/Tom

[Burgerbob]

I'm pretty sure there are more differences. I've never liked the way the 165 played or sounded. The 190 seems to be much better.

[norbie2018]

From what I could learn from searching the internet, the 165 was considered an intermediate model, but I wasn't sure if that was simply marketing hype (closed vs open wrap).

[disco]

The 165f was originally a pro model. I have owned both and found the 165f played very similar to an Elkhart 88h with a much better valve. My 190f did have as good of a bell than either of my 165’s.