Conn 100H

ttf_TheFreak90 · Post by **ttf_TheFreak90** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:20 pm

I was looking into popular Jazz horns and saw that there are a few jazz trombonists that use the Conn 100H. I was just wondering about the Conn 100H's specs. Comparable to a King 2 or 3 B? Any drawbacks? Flexible in tone color?

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:20 pm

Hate 'em.

The old Minick 100Hs are superb. I've played one, sadly it wasn't for sale. The new ones IMHO just lack a lot of color and flexibility. Some peope like them though. They're .500" bore, usually yellow brass all the way around. Size-wise it's between a 2B and 3B. If you wanted a setup like this I'd search for an old Elkhart 6H. That's what I have, they aren't too hard to find.

Just try out all you can. I hate the new 100Hs, but that's just me. Try it anyway. If you like it, go for it!

ttf_Barnstormer · Post by **ttf_Barnstormer** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:38 pm

Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:58 pm

Pretty much my observations, too (Andrew's). the 100H is supposed to be the model that takes over for 6H. Rather like undertake. (pardon the pun).
erling
6H kicks

ttf_anonymous · Post by **ttf_anonymous** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:59 am

Quote from: "barnstormer07"Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!

What???

ttf_Barnstormer · Post by **ttf_Barnstormer** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:05 pm

Quote from: "dan.gentry"Quote from: "barnstormer07"Elkhart 6H=Teh pwn!

What???

LoL, sorry I'm half nerd. Basically it means the 6H is awesome.

ttf_rodglu · Post by **ttf_rodglu** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:21 pm

If you want to buy a Conn, I second (third) the vote for an old 6H. I bought one about two years ago and it's the best .500 bore horn I've ever played.

I owned a 100H for about 19 years. I bought one of the first ones available in the Detroit area (1983) when I was in college. It was different than the model offered today. The bell was 8", and it had the curved hand brace like the Minick horn. An old-timer in the area had a Minick horn, and the 100H looked quite similiar. I don't know how the Minick played, because he wouldn't let me try it. The 100H played much better than the 1982 King 2B I was playing at the time (a terrible horn).

My playing decreased in the 90's due to my marriage, kids, job, etc. Then along came e-bay. My second purchase was an Elkhart Conn 48H, and I couldn't believe how much better it was that the 100H. It was far more open, especially in the upper register, and it slotted wonderfully. I let my buddy play it, and he loved it, so I sold it to him (he plays alot in the Detroit area, and says it's the best horn he's ever owned). I decided to try other horns, and I purchased and sold quite a few (3B's, Olds Recording, Bach 16, etc.). Then I bought an Elkart 6H, and my search was over. It blows like a charm and has a huge, warm sound. The upper range is awesome. I immediately put the 100H up for sale on e-bay, and haven't looked back since.

However, don't limit yourself to one horn or one manufacturer. You have so much to chose from today, much more than when I was in college. Try as many horns as you can before you buy. Happy hunting.

Rod Glusac

ttf_TheFreak90 · Post by **ttf_TheFreak90** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:52 pm

I am currently not looking into buying a "jazzer", but I am just researching some horns. Thanks for the Info Guys!

ttf_Ellrod · Post by **ttf_Ellrod** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:32 pm

I had a 100H (as well as a Minick) for a while.

The Conn was a bit of a dog. You'd clean and lube the slide and it would remain playable for, maybe, 30 minutes tops. A trip down to the Slide Doctor resulted in a good slide for half an hour. Not the SD's fault. John Sandhagen in a recent post mentioned that there was a design or construction flaw that affected 100H slides. "Buyer beware" might apply if you're considering one of these horns.

By the way, I had a Minick .500 bore, 8" horn with the tootsie roll counterweights. Not very similar to the Conn. The Minick didn't say anything like "100H" on it either.

ttf_macbone · Post by **ttf_macbone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:38 pm

I have a 100HS which I chose over a Selmer Bolero and other notable gems at Dillon's. The slide is one of the best I have ever owned and the horn is responsive and well made. Not great at projecting but once I got a Wedge rim mp that helped a lot. Tiny bit front heavy but not a deal breaker. Guess I was just lucky....

ttf_tbathras · Post by **ttf_tbathras** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:52 pm

Quote from: macbone on Aug 15, 2017, 01:38PMI have a 100HS which I chose over a Selmer Bolero and other notable gems at Dillon's. The slide is one of the best I have ever owned and the horn is responsive and well made. Not great at projecting but once I got a Wedge rim mp that helped a lot. Tiny bit front heavy but not a deal breaker. Guess I was just lucky....

When about did you get that 100H from Dillon? Don't see many of the silver ones and I traded mine in there back a few years ago. Always wondered if I'd find out where it ended up. Slim chance, but thought I'd ask.

ttf_Posaunus · Post by **ttf_Posaunus** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:47 pm

Quote from: Barnstormer on Jan 23, 2005, 12:05PMWhat???

LoL, sorry I'm half nerd. Basically it [Teh pwn!] means the 6H is awesome.

Thanks for the explanation, since I was totally at sea on that one.
Compounded by the Urban Dictionary explanation:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh%20pwn

Probably better to stick with standard English on this forum!

ttf_macbone · Post by **ttf_macbone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:37 pm

Tbathras, I bought it in spring 2013. The bell rim had suffered quite a whack on the slide side and tuning slide was dented too. Traces of little removed dents here and there including the slide. All 3 lead pipes were there. I had the dents removed. Good horn for a player with a paint peeling tone, mellows it right out. I actually have a dark sound but still liked the horn.

ttf_macbone · Post by **ttf_macbone** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:30 am

Leaving that Bolero at Dillon's was a tough decision!

ttf_Pre59 · Post by **ttf_Pre59** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:39 am

I had one that I bought untried when working on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. None of the 3 leadpipes fitted properly and had to be secured with Duct tape. The first thing I did when I got back home was to move it on. UMI really shot themselves in the foot when they dropped the classic 6H/5H horn.

ttf_tbathras · Post by **ttf_tbathras** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:15 am

Quote from: macbone on Aug 15, 2017, 05:37PMTbathras, I bought it in spring 2013. The bell rim had suffered quite a whack on the slide side and tuning slide was dented too. Traces of little removed dents here and there including the slide. All 3 lead pipes were there. I had the dents removed. Good horn for a player with a paint peeling tone, mellows it right out. I actually have a dark sound but still liked the horn.

Might be mine. I brought mine into Dillon's the spring of 2014 though, but it did have the dents you mention. You sure it wasn't 2014?

ttf_stanzabone · Post by **ttf_stanzabone** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:47 am

Quote from: rodglu on Jan 23, 2005, 07:21PM The bell was 8", and it had the curved hand brace like the Minick horn. An old-timer in the area had a Minick horn, and the 100H looked quite similiar. I don't know how the Minick played, because he wouldn't let me try it. The 100H played much better than the 1982 King 2B I was playing at the time (a terrible horn).
Rod Glusac
LOLing a little bit here, I had two section mates in the Air Force that had Minick horns, one was a 100-H style tenor & the other a bass. I never played so much as a lick on either one! They were very protective of their babies. They did have some great stories about Larry, as they were stationed at March AFB in SoCal & would drive there periodically to see the progress as they were being built.

ttf_macbone · Post by **ttf_macbone** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:20 pm

Maybe it was 2014

ttf_harrison.t.reed · Post by **ttf_harrison.t.reed** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:08 pm

(did everyone have TTF break on them? This thread ended in 2005)

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ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:43 am

TIME WARP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WANNA 100 HHHHHHHH
TAKE YOUR PIC
MONKEY GRIP IN NEW W THREE PIPES ---ONE HAS 12C STUCK INNIT ---FREE DENT IN SLIDE and gobs of marching band musiv
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beater from ESCOBAR IN LA --
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