Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

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Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by conn88Hagmann » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 am

I’ve had an unfortunate exchange with a Dutch Scammer. Had great trombone knowledge, So I’m guessing he had some playing or at least dealing experience. Has taken payment but then not sent hardware.

Anyone know Harm Goeree, with Facebook profile Harm Jan Tineke,

I stupidly made a bank transfer. So my bad, the bank may manage to reclaim the funds and that’s being looked into now, but in the mean time does anyone know him.

Always a casino with internet dealings I know, and if I’m down on this one so be it, but. . . .


He’s now disappeared from my Facebook. Of course.

Any help gratefully received.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Elow » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:30 pm

That’s scary. I talked to him about that duo gravis and was about to buy it but I got a kinda sketchy vibe that he wouldn’t take paypal so i just left him on read. Sorry that happened to you.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by conn88Hagmann » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:51 pm

That’s the one. Alas I made a deal with him.

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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Doug Elliott » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:40 pm

Looks like there are also complaints about him from almost a year ago.
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Post by DougHulme » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:30 am

I go to Sluis a couple of times a year (though covid has made that impossible this year). Covid rules allowing I shall be there in February/March I could go and see if the address is legit if you like, but by then it will be far too late I suppose... Doug
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Post by conn88Hagmann » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:31 am

It would help though, even with the timing.

Thanks so much Doug.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Ted » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:06 am

I'll ask some musicians from that area if they know him.

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Edit: you probably couldn't know this, but the telephone numbers is 1 digit too short to be a real Dutch phone number.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Elow » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:35 am

If you really want to go crazy, you can get his ip from the email he sent you. Unless he used a vpn, then you should be able to find where he sent that from.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by conn88Hagmann » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:51 am

Please could you let me know how to go about doing that? I’d be most grateful. . .
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Elow » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:46 am

conn88Hagmann wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:51 am
Please could you let me know how to go about doing that? I’d be most grateful. . .
I’ll send you a pm in a couple minutes
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by BGuttman » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:48 am

If you open an e-mail in a typical reader there should be an option to show either raw message (Yahoo Mail) or full header (many other mails). The full header will show sending IPs and mail servers as well as intermediate mail servers.

With Yahoo Mail the IP is right at the top of the raw message. With others you have to trace the track of send/receive to get the IP.

Once you have the IP you use a free program called WHOIS to identify the source of the IP. WHOIS will run in you browser.

Hope this helps. If you are like me you may need to do a little tinkering to get it to work.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Elow » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:01 pm

BGuttman wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:48 am
If you open an e-mail in a typical reader there should be an option to show either raw message (Yahoo Mail) or full header (many other mails). The full header will show sending IPs and mail servers as well as intermediate mail servers.

With Yahoo Mail the IP is right at the top of the raw message. With others you have to trace the track of send/receive to get the IP.

Once you have the IP you use a free program called WHOIS to identify the source of the IP. WHOIS will run in you browser.

Hope this helps. If you are like me you may need to do a little tinkering to get it to work.
This, was about to pm but someone’s already said it.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Gary » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:37 pm

I never do any international transactions by anything but PayPal. Regardless of their protestations, if they're in a First-World country, they can get and use PayPal,
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Post by paulyg » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:38 am

I'd say this case disproves the truism, "No Harm, no foul."
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Post by conn88Hagmann » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:26 am

Ok so he was too stupid to use a VPN.

What do you think is the best way to proceed. I’m in a chat with two others in exactly the same situation on Facebook, having paid for a cello and a sax.


Any advice gratefully received.
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by Vegasbound » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:31 am

Which country are you in?

If it's a European country then report it to your countries cyber crimes unit, or get on a train and report it to at his local police station
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Re: Anyone know Harm Goeree, Netherlands

Post by SwissTbone » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:06 am

Yeah. Call the police station.
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