Schagerl style superbone project

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Jgittleson
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Schagerl style superbone project

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Well, the title says it all. I recently picked up a very vintage cerveny 4 valve small bore tenor in need of tlc, and being there's not a whole lot of value there, i decided to get suggestions as to what to do with it. The one i liked the most is the Schagerl superbone. Now, i know i cant do the exact horn, but it might be possible to do something similar. Im still working it all out, but i may try to do it as an alto for kicks. If i can keep the 4 valves i will, im thinking of a different hand position for the left hand, and keeping the horn extremely back heavy, so it can just rest on the players left palm (i will fashion some sort of rest).

I wont have the horn for a couple of weeks as its coming from Germany, but that'll give me plenty of time to make plans.
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Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.

Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
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cozzagiorgi wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:50 am Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.

Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
You read my mind. Now to see if it can be done.
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cozzagiorgi wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:50 am Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.

Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.
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Burgerbob wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:28 am
cozzagiorgi wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:50 am Great idea!
Every time I see one of those Schagerl superbones I ask myself how someone can hold that thing for any extended period of time. Seems really uncomfortable to turn the hand backwards to use the valves.

Wouldn't it be more erconomical using the valves with the hand sideways?
That's actually a more natural position for the hand, as the arm isn't pronated.

Neutral grip is the most natural, its how the body is supposed to be at rest. Used to teach anatomy, exercise physiology, kinesiology, etc.
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Those are before and after pics, right? ;)
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Kbiggs wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:51 am Those are before and after pics, right? ;)
Hahahaha yeah sure lets go with that.
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Mmmmm!! Clock Spring Valve Levers!.

I bought one of those awhile back for a cimbasso project. I thought "As soon as I get that valve cluster working correctly, I'll start assembling it." That was five years ago.
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Re: Schagerl style superbone project

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Jgittleson wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:09 am
Kbiggs wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:51 am Those are before and after pics, right? ;)
Hahahaha yeah sure lets go with that.
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Hey Jgittleson, did you ever end up building that superbone?
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