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Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:26 pm
by disco
Anyone tell me the specs on these?

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:53 am
by LarryPrestonRoberson
Conn 88HLTOW?
O = open wrap
The other letters could mean different things depending on how they’re grouped. In the past (maybe currently) Conn offered an 88HT. Which, had a thin bell. I know other makers, such as Bach, use LT to designate light weight. Which, refers to a light weight slide (usually nickel) without over-sleeves.

General specifications of the 88H line:
.547" bore
8-1/2" rose brass bell
F attachment (.562” bore)
Rose brass outer slide with nickel crook

Likely, someone else will chime in with more details/information.

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:49 am
by ExZacLee
Lightweight , thinned bell, open wrap, wide slide? (I'm guessing based on the most common uses of those suffixes with trombone specs.)

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:11 am
by LarryPrestonRoberson
ExZacLee wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:49 am Lightweight , thinned bell, open wrap, wide slide? (I'm guessing based on the most common uses of those suffixes with trombone specs.)
My thoughts are generally the same. The ‘W’ is where I’m puzzled. I thought maybe grouped as ‘OW’ it might be open wrap. I think I’ve seen LTW for light weight with other makers, but it’s not grouped that way in this case. Conn-Selmer site is is no help—imagine that. There are a couple on eBay listed this way, but there’s no information to help decide the model. Maybe the TTF archives could prove helpful.

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:15 am
by hyperbolica
W may be a wide slide

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:09 am
by ExZacLee
LarryPrestonRoberson wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:11 am
ExZacLee wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:49 am Lightweight , thinned bell, open wrap, wide slide? (I'm guessing based on the most common uses of those suffixes with trombone specs.)
My thoughts are generally the same. The ‘W’ is where I’m puzzled. I thought maybe grouped as ‘OW’ it might be open wrap. I think I’ve seen LTW for light weight with other makers, but it’s not grouped that way in this case. Conn-Selmer site is is no help—imagine that. There are a couple on eBay listed this way, but there’s no information to help decide the model. Maybe the TTF archives could prove helpful.
I was guessing on the W, but that seems the only viable option for that - Conn has a narrower slide than Bach so widening the slide was probably an occasional request. Conn has used "O" and not "OW" for the open wrap designation in the past (as far as I'm aware).

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:06 am
by greenbean
Conn actually used "o/w" on some 88H bell engravings. It meant "open wrap." I think these were early Gen II horns. But I do not believe OW was ever used in the model designations.

Here:

https://goo.gl/photos/HC4tcAX1niZUjp7f9

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:29 pm
by MrHCinDE
My 88H is exactly this model, engraved 88H LT OW on the bell. It’s open wrap and with the thin wall bell, I’m 99% sure the LT relates to the bell rather than the slide and I‘m certain OW is for open wrap. I got it in around 2000, never checked the serial no. but suppose it‘s from late 90s.

Re: Conn 88HLTOW?

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:13 pm
by Davidus1
Conn uses the "W" for their tubas to mean "With case". (ex. Conn 5JW) I've never liked that designation. May not apply here but does with tubas.