Pumpenvalve Trombone on Craigslist!

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Pumpenvalve Trombone on Craigslist!

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Post by Neo Bri » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:42 pm

Pumpenvalves? Does that mean piston valves?
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Post by JohnL » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:03 pm

It's an early valve design. A double piston, with each piston having only two passages - one straight through and the other with one port on the the side and the other at the bottom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_ins ... ston_valve
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Post by Neo Bri » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:35 pm

JohnL wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:03 pm
It's an early valve design. A double piston, with each piston having only two passages - one straight through and the other with one port on the the side and the other at the bottom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_ins ... ston_valve
Very interesting! Thank you for the link.
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Post by Posaunus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:41 pm

These days, you will likely see Pumpenvalven only in the horn section of orchestras in Vienna.

https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Horn_in_F/Dist ... _Features/

If you're lucky enough to attend a Vienna Philharmonic concert, these horns are unmistakable!

https://www.google.com/search?q=vienna+ ... nJ9bcG4mSM:
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Post by BGuttman » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:43 pm

I always thought these were Vienna Valves. Pumpen were sorta squat piston valves. The ones we associate with pistons today are Perinet valves.
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Post by JohnL » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:52 am

BGuttman wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:43 pm
Pumpen were sorta squat piston valves.
Those are Berlin (or Berliner) valves.

I've seen the term "pumpen" applied to both Vienna and Berlin valves, though more often to the Berlin style.
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